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bongsaway said:
Watching bill maher, kasich was on. He doesn't stand a chance, he's much too moderate to get past a republican primary. Listening to him I was thinking he would make a good vp candidate for a dem, or run as an independent.
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Could be right. He's not radical enough anymore. His time would have been 2016. Bernie Sanders' time was 2016. I don't see either of them going anywhere in 2020.
 
Superfly said:
Could be right. He's not radical enough anymore. His time would have been 2016. Bernie Sanders' time was 2016. I don't see either of them going anywhere in 2020.
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They won't.

What the country is going to want is somebody that is left, but not so far left they're Sanders. People have already seen what happens when we embrace the extremes, so they're not going to be too keen on doing it again. That's just the reality, whether Bernie bro progressives want to see it or not.

Trump won because he convinced people he was a moderate. What's important for Democrats is to convey to the public, again and again, how the Democrats are the actual moderates in this country, and not the Republicans.
 
marke said:
I have no doubt that millions of democrats have sabotaged good republican candidates in the primary so their crappy democrat would have a better chance of winning in the general election. Fortunately the trick did not work in 2016, although several better men than Trump were taken down in 2016. How sweet it was, therefore, to find that Trump turned out to be a stalwart supporter of conservative values and is uniquely qualified to turn the democrat dogs on their heels in the political battles.
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Can you identify Trumps conservative values for us?
 
MovingPictures said:
I guess as long as you have the hots for Cohen, no.
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Superfly said:
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I'll gladly extend my Cohen avatar for six months if you tell me who that hottie is.

And maybe, just maybe, I'll grow my hair out.
 
Superfly said:
Yeah this was an awards show where the group won for Stranger Things. Her antics onstage were bizarre, and people talked about it for days. :lol:
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Yeah, I just remembered she got arrested for shoplifting.

Something about a woman in handcuffs for being a bad girl is hot, hot, hot. :blushing:
 
Tangmo said:
Rasmussen plays piano in a whorehouse for right wing ideologues. Scott Rasmussen had to quit the organization he founded because he stunk out the polling profession. He missed an election in Hawaii by a knockout 55 points. Only with Scott Rasmussen gone has the organization begun to move toward accuracy. Rasmussen had always been the fantasy pollster the rightwingers turned to when everything else was against 'em. Which was often if not every time. Now he himself is gone.
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Even the RCP polls are optimistic, given that Rasmussen is factored in the averages. To get real averages, average all the polls minus Rasmussen.

Rasmussen uses robocallers to land lines, and online polls, which are voluntary. There methodology is problematic.

The kind of person who would willingly talk to a robocall is not the same as those who would respond to a live human.

Land lines are kept more in the elderly age groups than any other, who tend to vote republican.

The kind of person who respond to online polls are a different demographic than those who do not.

Just because Rasmussen claims the data collected is "random and weighed", but only in a demographic that responds to online polls.

The methodology is flawed, in my view. Also, because they are using robocallers, they are doing it on the cheap.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
I couldn't stand him from the moment he swore, publicly, that after his last term he was a 'private citizen' and would not run again.

Then, of course, he ran again.
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That he begged for Trump's support against Beto, after Trump insulted his wife and said his father was complicit in the assassination of JFK, that made me sick to my stomach. The man's got zero character.
 
OscarLevant said:
Even the RCP polls are optimistic, given that Rasmussen is factored in the averages. To get real averages, average all the polls minus Rasmussen.

Rasmussen uses robocallers to land lines, and online polls, which are voluntary. There methodology is problematic.

The kind of person who would willingly talk to a robocall is not the same as those who would respond to a live human.

Land lines are kept more in the elderly age groups than any other, who tend to vote republican.

The kind of person who respond to online polls are a different demographic than those who do not.

Just because Rasmussen claims the data collected is "random and weighed", but only in a demographic that responds to online polls.

The methodology is flawed, in my view. Also, because they are using robocallers, they are doing it on the cheap.
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Indeed.

Included in the listing is of course the wording of the questions. Scott Rasmussen's questions were consistently along the line of, "Do you agree Michelle Obama is a man? Tens of millions of God-fearing Americans say yes."

And so on.

Scott Rasmussen's investors finally got fed up with being behind the eight ball and told him to get out. So now he's gone. Although it took the organization a considerable time to begin producing a better product we're beginning to see the results lately. Let's hope it holds up and continues to right the ship over there. It's an all hands task for sure.
 
OscarLevant said:
That he begged for Trump's support against Beto, after Trump insulted his wife and said his father was complicit in the assassination of JFK, that made me sick to my stomach. The man's got zero character.
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nor balls.
 
bongsaway said:
I'm stumped, what are conservative values?
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The usual. Hating people of color and women. Loving big government while screaming small government.
 
bongsaway said:
I'm stumped, what are conservative values?
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Traditional marriage, not SSM. Just judgment, not two-tiered justice system with one method of dealing with democrats and another of dealing with conservatives. Elimination of racial preferences and special treatment for blacks over whites or whites over blacks. Honesty, not deception. Etc.
 
SCrider said:
Can you identify Trumps conservative values for us?
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Whether Trump has sincere conservative convictions is not the issue. What is the issue is that he supports Christian values much more than any democrats do. Is that for political gain for himself? Who cares? I don't. Let him support Christian values for whatever reason, that is why I voted for him.
 
Rich2018 said:
MAY be ?

As in there's any doubt ?



He's the worst PotUSA ever according to a poll of political scientists.

Trump was 44th out of 44.
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You mean the affirmative action position for losers who can’t hack it in the free market?
 
marke said:
Traditional marriage, not SSM. Just judgment, not two-tiered justice system with one method of dealing with democrats and another of dealing with conservatives. Elimination of racial preferences and special treatment for blacks over whites or whites over blacks. Honesty, not deception. Etc.
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Thanks for your answer. I don't understand, other than religion, why anyone should care who loves or marries who. It's that religion has said it's bad, maybe religious teachings on that subject matter is bad? Our justice system in my opinion, is slanted towards the rich and doesn't care if you're a republican or democrat and as far as honesty, good luck. Look at the person in the white house, lies constantly.
 
Casca XV said:
Like most other mainstream polls Rasmussen usually errors to the negative on GOP and to the positive on Dems, meaning the approximate 45% they have Trump at is probably well over 50%.
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I looked to see if this was true. So I looked at the final Rasmussen poll compared to the actual results for every race they submitted a poll in the last 2 weeks of the campaign since 2010. (All from RCP)

Errors in favor of GOP: 48

2010: (GCB, California-Sen, Nevada-Sen, West Virginia-Sen, Washington-Sen, Pennsylvania-Sen, Illinois-Sen, Colorado-Sen, Connecticut-Sen, Wisconsin-Sen, Kentucky-Sen, Alaska-Sen, California-Gov, New Hampshire-Gov, Colorado-Gov, Connecticut-Gov, Florida-Gov, Hawaii-Gov, Illinois-Gov, Massachusetts-Gov, Ohio-Gov, Oregon-Gov, Arizona-Gov, Georgia-Gov, New Mexico-Gov, South Carolina-Gov, Wisconsin-Gov.)
2012: (National-Pres, Nevada-Pres, Colorado-Pres, Iowa-Pres, Pennsylvania-Pres, New Hampshire-Pres, Michigan-Pres, Wisconsin-Pres, Ohio-Pres, Virginia-Pres, Minnesota-Pres, Wisconsin-Sen, Virginia-Sen, North Dakota-Sen, Nevada-Sen, Montana-Sen, Indiana-Sen, Washington-Gov, New Hampshire-Gov)
2016: (National-Pres)
2018: (GCB)

Errors in favor of Dems: 6

2010: (Missouri-Sen, Minnesota-Gov, Texas-Gov)
2012: (Arizona-Pres)
2013: (Virginia-Gov)
2014: (GCB)

If I rounded the polls off then there would be a couple ties such as 2016's national poll and 2012's Arizona Presidential poll.
 
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bongsaway said:
Eight point drop in a month down to 34%.

Hope our president is listening to the american people telling him we don't like what he's doing. Otherwise, prepare for the rest of the wave arriving in 2020.
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If you live in Flori-duh then Trump is YOUR president. Get used to it.
 
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