Miss Universe Canada organizers boot transgender contestant

[Omgitsme]

Especially if a contest is only open to X.

If a dude wanted to compete in a beauty pageant, we'd argue that he's an attention whore. I see no difference if the dude enjoys wearing a dress and calling himself a woman. The only difference is the shock value involved.

It sounds like people who do strange things and think strange thoughts should not be offended when people view them as strange.

She isnt a guy.

 

[Matt Foley]

They should have kept that contestant out. Men have longer legs as a ratio than women and "long legged women" is a desirable trait. All things equal otherwise, a transgendered man has a superior body to a person born as a woman.

What?

Why did I end up here?

 

[Connery]

I dont think she is saying she joined the pageant to be an advocate. To me it sounds like she is saying after her outing in the pageant she felt like the creator put her in that position to be an advocate. She tried to hide the fact that she was trans and someone discovered her. She never mentioned her being trans until someone outed her.

She lied on her application to get in. There was a very good possibility that she would be asked for proof and her "credentials" would be rejected. She knew this going in . She is a liar, a drama queen and has brought a negative light to those she has "advocated" for. Just a garden variety huckster that exploited her situation.

 

[jamesrage]

1. Because there are women out there who are biologically male and they are still considered women.

Probably by those in the tranny community.

2. First of all I am not ****ed up in the head.

Most insane people don't know they are insane.

And secondly how does that possibly show that?

Abnormal brain scan.

3. See point 1.

Point 1 is irrelevant.

4. A drag queen is normally a gay man who dresses up as a woman occasionally as a form of entertainment. They still identify as a man. A transsexual lives as a woman full time and identifies as a woman. They dont do it just as a form of entertainment. Seriously if you have no clue about this subject you probably shouldnt just start posting things.

A drag queen is a male who dresses up as a woman.So it is accurate to call a tranny a drag queen.

5. A transsexual is not a transvestite. A transvestite in America is someone who dresses up in female clothing for sexual pleasure. In England it is the same thing as a crossdresser. Maybe you should start looking things up first.

A transvestite is someone who pretends to be a gender they are not.A transgendered person is someone who pretends to be a gender they are not.

transvestite (trænzˈvɛstaɪt)

— n
a person who seeks sexual pleasure from wearing clothes that are normally associated with the opposite sex

Transvestite | Define Transvestite at Dictionary.com

Again if you dont know something about this subject maybe you should educate yourself first before you post.

This describes a tranny.
Transvestite | Define Transvestite at Dictionary.com
a person, especially a male, who assumes the dress and manner usually associated with the opposite sex.

 

[Omgitsme]

She lied on her application to get in. There was a very good possibility that she would be asked for proof and her "credentials" would be rejected. She knew this going in . She is a liar, a drama queen and has brought a negative light to those she has "advocated" for. Just a garden variety huckster that exploited her situation.

All that is speculation. You dont know that she thought they would ask her to prove she was a woman. Most likely she assumed she could get away with it. Is she a liar yes. Arnt we all though? And if you ask me I understand exactly why she lied. And the only way she could have brought a negative light on trans people is if you assume she represents all trans people or that all trans people are the same. And to be honest those people that believe that arnt going to be very friendly to transgendered people anyway.

 

[Omgitsme]

Probably by those in the tranny community.



Most insane people don't know they are insane.


Abnormal brain scan.




Point 1 is irrelevant.



A drag queen is a male who dresses up as a woman.So it is accurate to call a tranny a drag queen.



A transvestite is someone who pretends to be a gender they are not.A transgendered person is someone who pretends to be a gender they are not.



This describes a tranny.
Transvestite | Define Transvestite at Dictionary.com
a person, especially a male, who assumes the dress and manner usually associated with the opposite sex.

1. Actually by most of society. And for the love of ****ing god stop using the word tranny. At this point you are just trying to be insulting.

2. Im not insane. And im pretty sure there are rules against claiming someone is.

3. Yes its an abnormal brain. Abnormal doesnt mean ****ed up.

4. Its entirely relevant. You just choose to ignore it.

5. DRAG QUEEN
: a male homosexual who dresses as a woman especially for comic or theatrical effect

TRANSVESTITE
: a person and especially a male who adopts the dress and often the behavior typical of the opposite sex especially for purposes of emotional or sexual gratification

trans·sex·u·al
noun \(ˌ)tran(t)s-ˈsek-sh(ə-)wəl, -shəl\
: a person who strongly identifies with the opposite sex and may seek to live as a member of this sex especially by undergoing surgery and hormone therapy to obtain the necessary physical appearance (as by changing the external sex organs)

Read those definitions. They are entirely different things.

6. Im sure you dont know the difference between sex and gender so Ill assume you meant sex. Transvestites dress up as the opposite sex for sexual pleasure and do not identify as the opposite sex. Transgendered people identify with the opposite sex.

7. Except the most important thing about transgendered individuals is that they identify as the opposite sex. That wasnt in the definition of transvestite you provided.

Seriously you dont know anything about this subject and are just trying to be insulting at this point of time. All your doing is making yourself look bad.

 

[Connery]

All that is speculation. You dont know that she thought they would ask her to prove she was a woman. Most likely she assumed she could get away with it. Is she a liar yes. Arnt we all though? And if you ask me I understand exactly why she lied. And the only way she could have brought a negative light on trans people is if you assume she represents all trans people or that all trans people are the same. And to be honest those people that believe that arnt going to be very friendly to transgendered people anyway.

The key question you have asked and answered here : "Is she a liar yes." Beyond that all is justification. She is nothing but a stinking liar.

 

[dontworrybehappy]

I'm a male, born as a male, wanting to be a woman, who wants to be a male.

What am I?

 

[The Mark]

I'm a male, born as a male, wanting to be a woman, who wants to be a male.

What am I?

I'm damned confused as to how I might answer that...especially since I see 2 conflicting "wants" there...

 

[Bob Blaylock]

She isnt [sic] a guy.

Every cell in his body contains genetic proof that he is.

 

[Gipper]

The definitions you gave for transsexual and transvestite are similar enough that it sounds like you just want vindication for your specific psychoses, whichever it may be. The proof of your intense need for validation is nearly 200 posts worth of you trying your absolute damnedest to justify this illness with all the vigor and stubbornness of a radical, which clearly you are.

The more committed you are, the more you should be.

 

[jamesrage]

1. Actually by most of society. And for the love of ****ing god stop using the word tranny. At this point you are just trying to be insulting.

There is nothing wrong with the word tranny. See dictionary.Nowhere in that definition does it say its a insult,slur or any similar word to imply that it is similar to faggot or nigger. Men who dress up as women are trannies it doesn't matter if they surgically altered themselves to make themselves look like the opposite sex.Tranny is merely a shortened version of transexual just like Brit is a shortened version of British.

Tranny | Define Tranny at Dictionary.com
2. a transvestite

2. Im not insane. And im pretty sure there are rules against claiming someone is.

Sane people do not physically alter themselves in order to pretend to be something they are not and then expect the whole world to treat as what ever it is they are pretending to be.

3. Yes its an abnormal brain. Abnormal doesnt mean ****ed up.

If it causes a person to physically alter their appearance and make them think they are something they are not such as man trapped in a woman's body, a Caucasian trapped in a African American's body,A African American trapped in a Caucasian's body, a woman trapped in a man's body or a cat trapped in a human's body or any other thing then yes it does make them insane.

4. Its entirely relevant. You just choose to ignore it.

Yes it is irrelevant. Just like you choose to ignore the fact he is a man entering a woman's pageant.

5. DRAG QUEEN
: a male homosexual who dresses as a woman especially for comic or theatrical effect

TRANSVESTITE
: a person and especially a male who adopts the dress and often the behavior typical of the opposite sex especially for purposes of emotional or sexual gratification

This describes any man who puts on a dress and pretends to be the opposite sex.

Drag queen | Define Drag queen at Dictionary.com
male transvestite.

trans·sex·u·al
noun \(ˌ)tran(t)s-ˈsek-sh(ə-)wəl, -shəl\
: a person who strongly identifies with the opposite sex and may seek to live as a member of this sex especially by undergoing surgery and hormone therapy to obtain the necessary physical appearance (as by changing the external sex organs)

Read those definitions. They are entirely different things.

6. Im sure you dont know the difference between sex and gender so Ill assume you meant sex. Transvestites dress up as the opposite sex for sexual pleasure and do not identify as the opposite sex. Transgendered people identify with the opposite sex.

7. Except the most important thing about transgendered individuals is that they identify as the opposite sex. That wasnt in the definition of transvestite you provided.

Yes I read those definitions.Someone who dresses up as the opposite sex and pretends to be the opposite is a tyranny.It doesn't matter if these people surgically altered themselves or not. A man that is surgically altered to look like a woman is still a man.So when he puts on women's clothes to make himself look like a woman he is a drag queen/tranny.

Seriously you dont know anything about this subject and are just trying to be insulting at this point of time. All your doing is making yourself look bad.

Apparently you don't know anything about biology or reality and insist on making everyone else play along with the delusions of insane people. All you are doing is making yourself look bad. I took what you said and flipped it right back at you.

 

[Omgitsme]

The key question you have asked and answered here : "Is she a liar yes." Beyond that all is justification. She is nothing but a stinking liar.

We all lie. And her lie wasnt really that big of a deal. I understand why she lied.

 

[Omgitsme]

Every cell in his body contains genetic proof that he is.

And in AIS women its the same way. However they are women.

 

[jamesrage]

We all lie. And her lie wasnt really that big of a deal. I understand why she lied.

He lied about being a woman to enter a contest for women.So yes it is a big deal.

 

[Omgitsme]

There is nothing wrong with the word tranny. See dictionary.Nowhere in that definition does it say its a insult,slur or any similar word to imply that it is similar to faggot or nigger. Men who dress up as women are trannies it doesn't matter if they surgically altered themselves to make themselves look like the opposite sex.Tranny is merely a shortened version of transexual just like Brit is a shortened version of British.

Tranny | Define Tranny at Dictionary.com
2. a transvestite



Sane people do not physically alter themselves in order to pretend to be something they are not and then expect the whole world to treat as what ever it is they are pretending to be.



If it causes a person to physically alter their appearance and make them think they are something they are not such as man trapped in a woman's body, a Caucasian trapped in a African American's body,A African American trapped in a Caucasian's body, a woman trapped in a man's body or a cat trapped in a human's body or any other thing then yes it does make them insane.



Yes it is irrelevant. Just like you choose to ignore the fact he is a man entering a woman's pageant.



This describes any man who puts on a dress and pretends to be the opposite sex.

Drag queen | Define Drag queen at Dictionary.com
male transvestite.




Yes I read those definitions.Someone who dresses up as the opposite sex and pretends to be the opposite is a tyranny.It doesn't matter if these people surgically altered themselves or not. A man that is surgically altered to look like a woman is still a man.So when he puts on women's clothes to make himself look like a woman he is a drag queen/tranny.



Apparently you don't know anything about biology or reality and insist on making everyone else play along with the delusions of insane people. All you are doing is making yourself look bad. I took what you said and flipped it right back at you.

Its insulting to be called a tranny end of story. Also learn the difference between transsexual and transvestite.

According to you. Every expert on this subject disagrees with you. And I dont expect people to treat me as female. I would love it if they would but I know they wont.

You keep bringing up animals trapped in a humans body and certain races trapped in another races body but that just doesnt happen. I have already explained why that isnt a good argument and you ignored it.

Shes not a man and it is irrelevant.

Again no it doesnt. There are big differences between transgendered, transsexual, transvestite, and drag queens. I have already posted the definition of them if you choose to ignore that they are all different thats on you.

I do know something about biology. Sex isnt based solely on biology however which is why you are wrong.

 

[Omgitsme]

He lied about being a woman to enter a contest for women.So yes it is a big deal.

She is a woman. She lied about how she used to be a man. Not a big deal.

 

[jamesrage]

She is a woman. She lied about how she used to be a man. Not a big deal.

He is a man that is surgically altered to look like a woman.He lied about being a woman.So it is a very big deal. A Caucasian man that make his skin black and surgically alters his facial features is not a African American.A woman who gets breast implants to go from a A cup to a dd cup does not naturally have dd size breasts.A man who gets prosthetic cat ears,whiskers and teeth is not a cat.A man who physically alters his apparent with fake body parts to look like a woman is not a woman.

 

[notquiteright]

Pointing to a dictionary to protest a term isn't a slur is bogus.

At one time many of the terms we see as slurs today were not called that, mostly referred to as slang. The 'N' word comes to mind.

While homophobes see anything outside their rather narrow view of sexuality as a form a form of insanity, I'd venture to say refusing to admit the real world facts on the ground as a not so subtle form of mental defect. What equipment we are born with doesn't restrict what we can become according to some 'conservatives', who paint some happy picture anyone can rise from poverty to riches, can become President, can invent the 'wheel' of our age. Why not change our sex parts and according to some 'conservatives' gayness is a life choice so why can't a person choose their sex?

While I wish I was born with a little more so all the women call me 'CONAN, Bearer of the Mighty SWORD' I am quite happy to have dangly bits. I don't begrudge or belittle those who want to change teams.

It was a bit surprising the constantly self promoting and self stroker 'The Donald' chose to embrace her continuing in the competition, he doesn't think President Obama was born in the USofA, but does believe the law protects a transgender's right to compete in a beauty contest.

Wadda Country

 

[jamesrage]

Its insulting to be called a tranny end of story.

No its not insulting.

Also learn the difference between transsexual and transvestite.

According to you. Every expert on this subject disagrees with you.

Someone who dresses up as the opposite sex is a tranny.So there is no difference other than one definition includes someone who has physically altered their body to make themselves look like a gender they are not.

And I dont expect people to treat me as female. I would love it if they would but I know they wont.

That is a lie.You tell people you are female.When you signed up to DP you chose female instead of male and you keep insisting that you are a woman and you keep insisting that the guy in the OP story is a woman. I bet you even got the state to legally recognize you as a woman and most likely your driver's licenses or ID says you are a female.You most likely even changed your name to that of a female's name. You also probably even dress up as a woman. These are not the actions of someone who doesn't expect people to treat them as something they are not.

You keep bringing up animals trapped in a humans body and certain races trapped in another races body but that just doesnt happen. I have already explained why that isnt a good argument and you ignored it.

If the pro-tranny crowd can ignore biology regarding gender then biology regarding race and species is no different.

Shes not a man and it is irrelevant.

Again he is a man.

Again no it doesnt. There are big differences between transgendered, transsexual, transvestite, and drag queens. I have already posted the definition of them if you choose to ignore that they are all different thats on you.

Someone who dresses up as the opposite sex is a tranny period.It doesn't matter if that person physically altered their body so they can pretend to be a gender they are not.

I do know something about biology. Sex isn't based solely on biology however which is why you are wrong.

Born XX chromosomes born with a vagina and uterus they you are a female. Born with XY chromosomes ,a penis and testicles then you are male. Seeing you insist that these things that biologically define a man and woman you do not know anything about biology.

 

[jamesrage]

Pointing to a dictionary to protest a term isn't a slur is bogus.

At one time many of the terms we see as slurs today were not called that, mostly referred to as slang. The 'N' word comes to mind.

If you look up nigger, faggot, or any other slur it will say it is a slur or some other similar word to imply that it is offensive.Tranny is no more a slur than accusing someone of having a phobia against gay people is a slur.

 

[notquiteright]

James your name tells me discussion might be pointless.

But you missed the point in all your rage I guess. Back in the day the 'N' word WAS NOT considered officially offensive. many words, some still in general use are officially slurs like wetback.

That some are wont to cling to using slurs without consideration of others says more about the speaker than the target. That some refuse to see some words as offensive because the dictionary hasn't caught up is interesting. In this day and age we use lots of words and terms that takes awhile for the dictionary to list and define.

Now your attempt to make calling someone a homophobe for using tranny the same as you using tranny, it isn't the same no matter how you hold your purty mouth. It is like calling someone racist for using the 'N' word.

Now if I called you a inbred redneck we are closer to your equivalency, but that is quite a step away from simple homophobe.

 

[Gipper]

She is a woman. She lied about how she used to be a man. Not a big deal.

Maybe to you.

She's not a woman, no matter how much you want to believe. If you want to argue that she's not a man, that's fine. We'll create that "it" category. Refer to it as "it". Not male anymore, but clearly not female.

Belief and actions do not overcome genetics and nature. I can jump on people's laps and eat from a bowl on the floor, but I'm most certainly not a dog.

 

[cAPSLOCK]

If you look up nigger, faggot, or any other slur it will say it is a slur or some other similar word to imply that it is offensive.Tranny is no more a slur than accusing someone of having a phobia against gay people is a slur.

I agree with you on the important point that the person in question is male by definition.

But why not fight that battle which is more important than this one concerning the word "tranny".

If a person closer to the community tells you "tranny" is somewhat offensive why not just respect their opinion and take their word for it. I get the sense it's like saying "transgendered slut" in their community.

After all respecting MY opinion that I see the person in question as MALE is what *I* want... I see no purpose rather than just taunting to niggle over the meanings of the words the people in that community use to describe themselves.

 

[Omgitsme]

He is a man that is surgically altered to look like a woman.He lied about being a woman.So it is a very big deal. A Caucasian man that make his skin black and surgically alters his facial features is not a African American.A woman who gets breast implants to go from a A cup to a dd cup does not naturally have dd size breasts.A man who gets prosthetic cat ears,whiskers and teeth is not a cat.A man who physically alters his apparent with fake body parts to look like a woman is not a woman.

Ive already explained my argument on equating transgenderism to people who feel they were born the wrong species or race. Im just waiting for you to actually argue against it now.