Minnesota suspected assassin Vance Boelter captured alive after intense manhunt for fatal shooting of Dem pol, spouse: report

[cAPSLOCK]

I drive a 1976 chevy 'heavy half' 4x4 pickup and a fairly new Suburu

Am i a walking (rolling) contradiction?

Easy... Redneck lesbian couple.

 

[venice_ca]

The conclusion I would reach is that you want others to know some of your fealties. And that's my point. There's not some magic that separates the online from the off. We're all humaning, all the time.

It's the same with me. The one thing you know from my truck is that I support Liverpool Football Club.

If you are one of the hundreds of millions of EPL fans, or the billions of (actual) football fans, you probably know LFC supporters are routinely "leftwing".

To reinforce this point I'm going to invite @venice_ca to chime in on what a Lazio supporter's politics might be.

Trick question, eh?

I don’t much follow Italian football, but know from reading headlines that fascist and racist chants and banners from Lazio ultras in the home stadium’s Curva Nord are not unusual.

Roma ultras (hooligans) populate the Curva Sud, and have a preference for after game violence against non-Italian supporters of non-Italian teams.

Meet the Irriducibile, the fascist Lazio ultras who worship Mussolini

In Italy, as much of the world, football is inseparable from (often extremist) politics, and Lazio’s ultras, the Irriducibile, occupy the extreme end of the far-right fringe.

www.gq-magazine.co.uk

 

[NolanVoyd]

Easy... Redneck lesbian couple.

Lol

 

[justoneman]

Oh cool, we have a Flyer Truther on this thread?

Hey @justoneman are you by any chance also a Birther and/or Election Truther?

There was no manifesto. That is per the statement of the police. There was writings in a notebook of names. I do not believe the police have released that. He worked as a mission in Africa. That says nothing about anything. He was appointed to a board by Tim Walz. That does not definitively say anything either.

 

[reinaert]

Peaceably to assemble doesn't mean while breaking other laws. Do you also think it's legal to speed and run stop signs on the way to cast your vote because voting is a right?

It's super convenient (to you?) that what you ignore are cars be driven into people walking in public.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

Fox lawyers told you they lie. Fox talking heads told you they lie. Fox's owner told you they lie. And still you say they 'actually report the news'.
What's that word? Starts with a 'c', ends with a 't' and has a 'u' and an 'l' in the middle somewhere.

Um…all the main stream media that told us Biden was sharp as a tack…crickets.

 

[NuffSaid]

Um…all the main stream media that told us Biden was sharp as a tack…crickets.

Wrong thread.
Have you condemned this guy yet?

 

[Lethargic Aptitude]

You're not wrong, but Trump won't pardon this guy ex nihilo.

I'm not saying never.

But, Vance whatsitdohickey has not gotten the Horst Wessel or Ashley Babbit treatment. He's got the wrong profile for all that right now. We'll see in a year.

But, not now.

I suspect they ngs w

You're not wrong, but Trump won't pardon this guy ex nihilo.

I'm not saying never.

But, Vance whatsitdohickey has not gotten the Horst Wessel or Ashley Babbit treatment. He's got the wrong profile for all that right now. We'll see in a year.

But, not now.

I hate to even think what will happen during a years time.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

His own vice president said he was like Hitler.

And now suddenly in the last eight or nine months he's decided he loves him.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

Since I have seen exactly zero people here that believe that strawman, I think everyone will be OK.

Exactly NO ONE here has suggested he does not have a political allegiance.

But many of us are not so stupid as to believe that allegiance is meaningful in regards to judging the rest of conservatives.

That trick only works on people who cannot think past a fallacy...

It goes like this:

1. The shooter called himself a Republican.
2. Therefore all Republicans want to kill Democrat lawmakers.

It is almost like saying (entirely hypothetically mind you):
1. Debate Politics has at least one psychopathic douche bag who takes pleasure in making simplistic arguments to taunt those he hates.
2. Therefore DP is exclusively simple minded psychopathic douche bags.

We know that is not true! Even this heated thread is full of good hearted souls on all sides! I have been conversing with MANY of you! And agreeing! I am an "Allsider" after all! I tweaked it a little to make it even MORE inclusive!

So no need to worry @Hatuey. We are all going to be OK!

We call that false equivalency fallacy. That its guilt by association. One bad Republican means all of them are bad.

A really stupid and bad debating tactic.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

Wrong thread.
Have you condemned this guy yet?

Right thread. If one is complaining about a bad source, I can play that game too. Anybody that commits murder is bad.
That doesn’t mean we can use a false equivalency that all Republicans are bad.

 

[Cosmo]

It's super convenient (to you?) that what you ignore are cars be driven into people walking in public.

I have no idea what you wrote. Back to what we were discussing: do you understand how rights work? A right to do something is just that. It is NOT a right to break whatever other laws you want to break just because you're breaking them while exercising the aforementioned right.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

This statement has me super curious. I'm not sure if I'm exact on what you mean, but if what you're saying is you can guess someone's political being based on what they drive. I would love to think what my two vehicles say about me.

I know you already know the answer because I put my political lean as my title up there today.

But who would someone who drives a Kimco Super 8 scooter with 20,000 miles on it (85mpg!) Be?

My other fairly rarely moved vehicle is a 4cyl teeny Diesel truck (35mpg!).

The truck has two stickers on the back window. One of them is Bender the robot and the other one is a musical staff with a fermata over it.

What alignment does this tell you?


Or this one?

 

[NuffSaid]

Right thread. If one is complaining about a bad source, I can play that game too. Anybody that commits murder is bad.
That doesn’t mean we can use a false equivalency that all Republicans are bad.

Amazing because other MAGA brethren in other threads label all Democrats as bad.

 

[cAPSLOCK]

What alignment does this tell you?
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Or this one?
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Top one is a sensible but fun mama car. The bottom one is a cool dad car. Is that a Plymouth satellite? circa 67? Not totally sure.

 

[phoenix2020]

There was no manifesto. That is per the statement of the police. There was writings in a notebook of names. I do not believe the police have released that. He worked as a mission in Africa. That says nothing about anything. He was appointed to a board by Tim Walz. That does not definitively say anything either.

Cool story or whatever, but how's your Birther game looking these days? A bit rusty, or do you think you've still got it?

 

[justoneman]

Not only was there no manifesto, the list of names is said to include 70 names. 70. Also reported was that the list was mixed in with many other random notes. This guy was appointed to a board that was to help employ individuals with significant employment barriers. He was appointed to the job by Tim Walz. The murderer was working to get African nationalists living in Minnesota, jobs, housing and healthcare. There is a BS list out there being copied and pasted saying he was a registered Republican. Any body can print anything on the internet.

This list of names is being called a kill list. Again, people can say anything on the internet. This guy was tasked on the board to help get jobs for African immigrants. In that task you develop contacts and work with people. Many of the names on this list are supposed to be from other neighboring states, iowa Wisconsin and Illinois. Do you think his plan was to drive around the Midwest and kill 70 people or do you think this was a bunch of people he was contacting to develop business opportunities for African immigrants in Minnesota? Do you think he wanted to kill ilan Omar or was she just another contact on the list for business development for African immigrants?

The person he did kill just voted to kill healthcare for illegal immigrants. She was the only Democrat to do so. If your job included getting healthcare for African immigrants you might not like that.

 

[Felis Leo]

Is this accurate, he was appointed by Tim Walz? Hardly seems that would make him a conservative.

Minnesota suspected assassin Vance Boelter captured alive after intense manhunt for fatal shooting of Dem pol, spouse

Boelter, a 57-year-old former appointee by Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, was sought by police for allegedly shooting Sen. John Hoffman and his wife Yvette and fatally shooting former Democratic House Sp…

nypost.com

You know, this may surprise you but unlike Republicans, Democrats have traditionally made non-partisan appointments, including of people who do not agree with them politically but who were capable of performing the job.

But I agree that it is a practice that should almost certainly be ended.

 

[Grand Mal]

Um…all the main stream media that told us Biden was sharp as a tack…crickets.

Fox is mainstream media. And they told you they lie. They flat-out told you they lie.
Do you chose to believe them? Believe them when they said they lie and then believe them again when they tell you another lie?

 

[justoneman]

You know, this may surprise you but unlike Republicans, Democrats have traditionally made non-partisan appointments, including of people who do not agree with them politically but who were capable of performing the job.

But I agree that it is a practice that should almost certainly be ended.

Does the board appointment to a position that is to aid Africans to emigrate to Minnesota and help them get jobs, housing and healthcare sound like a particularly Republican kind of thing or a Democrat kind of thing?

 

[Demon]

Odd that you didn’t post this taken directly from your own link.



And he was ‘re-appointed’ to a small bi-partisan business advisory board. One that didn’t require political affiliation.

Keep that handy. You'll have to repeat it over and over and over...

 

[CaughtInThe]

 

[justoneman]

Two officers were sent to Hortman's house. They arrive BEFORE the killer.They engaged in fire with the killer. The killer then went into the house and shot both people to death and then escaped out the rear door. Talk about terrible police work!

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Top one is a sensible but fun mama car. The bottom one is a cool dad car. Is that a Plymouth satellite? circa 67? Not totally sure.

So no political alignment detected. Good.

1. Top one is wifey's handicap equipped "van-borghini", 2017 Pacifica.
2. Bottom: 1966 Sport Fury, 383 Commando 4bbl, all original survivor, pampered by its former owner, an old man who had receipts for everything down
to tire valves.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Right thread. If one is complaining about a bad source, I can play that game too. Anybody that commits murder is bad.
That doesn’t mean we can use a false equivalency that all Republicans are bad.

Ordinary Republicans are now mostly politically homeless if they are typical principled conservatives from a few years back.
MAGA has largely reshaped the Republican Party into the MAGA Nationalist Party so it seems.
I am not going to fault "ALL Republicans" for being MAGA loyalists but we see and hear it with our own eyes and ears who the loyalists are.

And as for the ordinary principled connies who are still hanging on, I see them as the same kinds of people who are still hanging on with the establishment Dems
who still want to believe that all of this is just going to blow over soon, like the Chuck Schumers and Nancy Pelosis who think "strongly worded letters" will somehow get through to Trump and sting his conscience and make him rethink his attacks.

Those establishment Dems are delusional and so are the ordinary conservatives who have yet to leave the MAGA Party.
Like their establishment Dem counterparts, they seem to think MAGA is just a passing trend.

Both sides should take a long and honest hard look at the growing number of independents who have decided to quit membership in both parties.
The indies are BY FAR the largest block of the electorate in America now and have been for at least the last six years, and now their numbers are swelling again.

"Leaving MAGA" is the growing trend now.
We might just see it begin to grow more legs soon.

PS: I'll repeat what I've said many times before: Nobody expects a former MAGA to suddenly pivot to being a Dem or any kind of liberal.
If they do, goody goody but personally, if you're a conservative, BE a conservative, fine and dandy, I sure don't agree but I don't hold any grudges against connies,
I just try to argue my views to them in the hope for some common ground between us if any.

But to me, leaving MAGA means that a person recognizes that MAGA is NOT conservative in any way, shape or form, and is not healthy for a constitutional republic's survival.
Leaving MAGA means they see the signs of impending dictatorship. See my sig line for an example!