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Minnesota state representative admits she is in the US illegally during legislative debate

NolanVoyd said:
Do you think electing a convicted felon to the hoghest office in the land is appropriate.

Does that justify breaking laws?

Go ahead and break laws. Be a convicted felon. You can still be president.
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that wasn't what we're talking about - we're talking ILLEGAL and it wasn't illegal for Trump to run

elected Trump wasn't illegal

this MN Representatives parents did illegal things - and if people can self justify breaking laws then we can expect everyone and anyone to do it too - right ?
 
j brown's body said:
A bigger danger than undocumented immigrants, for sure.
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so yes, you'd do it, and I agree, I think it'd be good too

so you can see how getting us back to a country without millions of illegally here people is valid (just like getting us to a country without irresponsible drivers would be)
 
Grand Mal said:
I heard Melania Trump worked illegally in the US when she first arrived. Is that as bad?
Nice avatar, by the way. Was that for Gay Pride Month?
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It’s probably been said but Elmo did too.
 
stealthycat said:
it wasn't her though it was her parents

still - understand that when breaking laws are justified for one thing or by one group that anyone/everyone can break laws and self justify them too. Open that pandora's box, see where it goes
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Like pardoning J6 terrorists.
 
trixare4kids said:
No offense to anyone, but MN. has become one big loser state.
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It sounds like you have never been there. It is a top state for it's schools, infrastructure, public safety, healthcare, life spans, personal fitness, incomes, and quality of life. Statistically, it has been one of the most well governed states in the country for decades.
 
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stealthycat said:
that wasn't what we're talking about - we're talking ILLEGAL and it wasn't illegal for Trump to run
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It wasnt illegal for the MN rep to run either.
stealthycat said:
elected Trump wasn't illegal

this MN Representatives parents did illegal things - and if people can self justify breaking laws then we can expect everyone and anyone to do it too - right ?
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Arent you self justifying breaking laws by elwcting a convicted felon to the highest office in the land?

After all there is nothing illegal anout the Mn representative holdimg office. She is a US citizen and has no criminal convictions on her recird (umlike Trump).
 
dcsports said:
Certainly not if they get caught. It's absolutely possible to work through the legal process.
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No. Its not.

If you are here illegally there is no process to become legal with a few exceptions like marriage.

This should help.

"There is no line available for current undocumented immigrants and the “regular channels” are largely not available to prospective immigrants who end up entering the country through unauthorized channels."
www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org

Why Don’t Immigrants Apply for Citizenship?

There is no line available for undocumented immigrants and the “regular channels” do not include them.
www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org

I wish more people would learn the facts before forming opinions.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Good on Rep. Vang. Minnesota is fortunate to have her. Ms. Vang is lucky that ICE didn't hunt her down in a raid, ignore due process and man her off to Vietnam where life for her would likely be a nightmare much as it is for current illegals and those waiting for the naturalization process to begin.
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So since the paperwork was forged and fake, I'm sure you'll support the same charges as you advocate for Trump for signing checks and paying back loans.
 
trumptman said:
So since the paperwork was forged and fake, I'm sure you'll support the same charges as you advocate for Trump for signing checks and paying back loans.
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What paperwork did the representative forge?
 
NolanVoyd said:
It wasnt illegal for the MN rep to run either.
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I never said it was

NolanVoyd said:
Arent you self justifying breaking laws by elwcting a convicted felon to the highest office in the land?
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was it illegal to elect him ? no


NolanVoyd said:
After all there is nothing illegal anout the Mn representative holdimg office. She is a US citizen and has no criminal convictions on her recird (umlike Trump).
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I never said any different did I ?
 
rahl said:
Yes. I’ll ask again. What paper work did the representative forge?
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Do you own homework going forward.

What my father did was, one of our uncles worked for USAID, and because his mother had died, my father, as the one processing the paperwork, put my grandmother down as his mother," Her said. "And so, I am illegal in this country. My parents are illegal here in this country. And when we were fleeing that situation, never one time did my family say, ‘Let’s look at which state has the greatest welfare and which state has the greatest benefits, because that’s the state we’re going to go to.’"

"Nobody leaves their country unless they have to leave that country," she added.

Her told the room of lawmakers she shared the story because she wanted them to think about who they are calling illegal immigrants.


Her’s family was "smarter" in how they came to the U.S., she said, although they broke the laws to get into the country.
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You're welcome. Realize that is HER claim so take up any technicalities you imagine with regard to it with her.
 
NolanVoyd said:
No. Its not.

If you are here illegally there is no process to become legal with a few exceptions like marriage.

This should help.

"There is no line available for current undocumented immigrants and the “regular channels” are largely not available to prospective immigrants who end up entering the country through unauthorized channels."
www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org

Why Don’t Immigrants Apply for Citizenship?

There is no line available for undocumented immigrants and the “regular channels” do not include them.
www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org
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It absolutely is, and I know people who have done it. Within the country it can be done with an work related visa process or student visa (probably for those who came in legally and exprired), but they can also return for at least a period of time and start the process from out of the country. Also people who have a legal claim anyway (like the children of a US citizen born out of the country) can update status from within the country. Much depends on the specific situation. What makes it hard is getting caught here illegally - especially committing any kind of a crime. Lots of attorneys specialize in immigration and can help people through the process.


NolanVoyd said:
I wish more people would learn the facts before forming opinions.
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Good advice.
 
dcsports said:
It absolutely is, and I know people who have done it. Within the country it can be done with an H1B process or student visa (probably for those who came in legally and exprired), but they can also return for at least a period of time and start the process from out of the country. Lots of attorneys specialize in immigration and can help people through the process.



Good advice.
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Read the article.
 
trumptman said:
Do you own homework going forward.



You're welcome. Realize that is HER claim so take up any technicalities you imagine with regard to it with her.
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So she didn’t forget anything. Thank you.
 
NolanVoyd said:
And it wasnt illegal to elect her either.

If you didnt have double standards apperantly youd have no standards at all.
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quote where I said it was illegal for her to be elected - I'll wait

or apologize for accusing me of something I didn't do (unless you can prove it) ?
 
stealthycat said:
quote where I said it was illegal for her to be elected - I'll wait

or apologize for accusing me of something I didn't do (unless you can prove it) ?
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Read the exchange. I am not accusing you of saying it was illegal to elect her.

This is the sentence of yours that i am talking about.

"still - understand that when breaking laws are justified for one thing or by one group that anyone/everyone can break laws and self justify them too. Open that pandora's box, see where it goes"

And this.

"this MN Representatives parents did illegal things - and if people can self justify breaking laws then we can expect everyone and anyone to do it too - right ?"

Now apply that to Trump. (It was Trump who did illegal things, not his parents)
 
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