Migrants Attack 60 Minutes News Crew (Warning: Graphic Content)

[calamity]

Arrest, incarcerate and deport. Problem solved.

 

[Sweden]

Do you have a source that isn't far right wing with an anti-Muslim agenda?

I am willing to be that source. I live in Sweden, I am not 'far-right' and I do not have an anti-Muslim agenda. The Iranian Muslim immigrants here are good people, hard working - often in the professions - and extremely low crime. The Arabs and Somalies, who vastly outnumber them, are something else.

But I suspect you do not really want a neutral source but one that thinks Islamic immigration is an unalloyed benefit.

 

[Moot]

I am willing to be that source. I live in Sweden, I am not 'far-right' and I do not have an anti-Muslim agenda. The Iranian Muslim immigrants here are good people, hard working - often in the professions - and extremely low crime. The Arabs and Somalies, who vastly outnumber them, are something else.

But I suspect you do not really want a neutral source but one that thinks Islamic immigration is an unalloyed benefit.

Since you live in Sweden surely you've noticed the rise in right wing extremism and anti-migrant propaganda. I suspect you gulp it down like Kool aide.

 

[Sweden]

Arrest, incarcerate and deport. Problem solved.

Arrest? What, and risk your career as a Uniformed Social Worker aka Polis because of instant howls of 'Islamophobia'? Incarcerate - now you are joking!

Now we get to 'Deport'. For a few years now forced deportation is forbidden here. The Courts may order someone to be deported. The Police may take him to the airport but they are not permitted to force him to board a plane. So the savvy migrant just refuses to go. He will then be called an 'illegal immigrant' but, get this, will still be entitled to free medical and dental care (which is more than I am) and social security payments, though at a reduced rate.

 

[Deuce]

Not all Muslims? Yeah right....

And there it is. He finally admits that he believes it's all Muslims.

 

[Sweden]

Since you live in Sweden surely you've noticed the rise in right wing extremism and anti-migrant propaganda. I suspect you gulp it down like Kool aide.

There are two tiny Right Wing parties in Sweden who get a few hundred votes between them. Then there is a centre-left part, the Swedish Democrats, which is absurdly called 'far right' and 'extremist' because it is against uncontrolled mass migration. It had the biggest support of any party in the most recent opinion poll. The state media and the government subsidised press contains nothing but pro-migration lying propaganda.

What beverages I gulp down is no business of yours. Though they do include tea and coffee which I understand are banned in the Mormon Republic of Utah.

 

[OpportunityCost]

Are you familiar with British tabloids? You'd have to be a special kind of gullible to believe them.

Ahhh, how the rationale swim about. The Guardian and the Daily Caller are British tabloids? They are opposites in political outlooks, that gives them a certain amount of reliability because it negates the agenda on both sides--simply, they are both looking after their own self interest.

Oh and Moot, I'm an optimist, a pragmatist and a realist but I am never gullible. You assume I am because you specialize in projection.

 

[Harry Guerrilla]

Since you live in Sweden surely you've noticed the rise in right wing extremism and anti-migrant propaganda. I suspect you gulp it down like Kool aide.

Wanting some kind of immigration reform means you're "extreme right wing?"

 

[Moot]

Ahhh, how the rationale swim about. The Guardian and the Daily Caller are British tabloids? They are opposites in political outlooks, that gives them a certain amount of reliability because it negates the agenda on both sides--simply, they are both looking after their own self interest.

Oh and Moot, I'm an optimist, a pragmatist and a realist but I am never gullible. You assume I am because you specialize in projection.

The Daily Express is a tabloid. Do you know what a tabloid is? To use a tabloid as a source would be like claiming, "Bat Boy found living in Sweden" to prove Sweden has a bat problem.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...efuses-turn-lights-off-12.html#post1065692002

The hypocrisy is amazing. The Daily Express recently ran an article criticising the state of teenage sexual morals. "In a world where sex is everything," the article complained, "how can we expect our teenagers to say no?" Well, fair enough, until you discover that the owner of The Daily Express is also the owner of a pornography-publishing house.

A bit of a giggle.

The Daily Caller is one degree above Bat boy.

 

[OpportunityCost]

The Daily Express is a tabloid. Do you know what a tabloid is? To use a tabloid as a source would be like claiming, "Bat Boy found living in Sweden" to prove Sweden has a bat problem.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...efuses-turn-lights-off-12.html#post1065692002



The Daily Caller is one degree above Bat boy.

To start with I was using the Guardian and the Daily Caller as the sources. The fact that they are opposites politically and reporting the same things gives it some credibility.

Where are you getting the Daily Express from? Its not a quoted source anywhere on this thread. Or are you self owning again?

 

[Moot]

Wanting some kind of immigration reform means you're "extreme right wing?"

No, it doesn't. But there is another kind that uses anti-muslim and immigrant propaganda the same way a certain group used the Jews as scapegoats for their political agenda to gain power.

 

[Harry Guerrilla]

No, it doesn't. But there is another kind that uses anti-muslim and immigrants propaganda the way a certain group used the Jews as scapegoats for their agenda to gain power.

Sorry that's a false equivocation.
The "they're like the Nazi's" thing has been used and abused so retardingly much, that it doesn't work anymore.

 

[Moot]

To start with I was using the Guardian and the Daily Caller as the sources. The fact that they are opposites politically and reporting the same things gives it some credibility.

Where are you getting the Daily Express from? Its not a quoted source anywhere on this thread. Or are you self owning again?

Then you weren't following the discussion because the Guardian was my source and the Daily Caller and Daily Standard were starcitizen's sources. I wouldn't expect you to know why starcitizen only uses far right conservative sources and tabloids, which is why I asked him and not you.

 

[VanceMack]

You can set your watch by it. In spite of a thread with a video by a CBS news crew (obviously NOT an extreme right wing agency) and with actual videographic evidence in hand, the apologists simply cannot help themselves.

Must....defend....Islam.....

 

[OpportunityCost]

Then you weren't following the discussion because the Guardian was my source and the Daily Caller and Daily Standard were starcitizen's sources. I wouldn't expect you to know why starcitizen only uses far right conservative sources and tabloids, which is why I asked him and not you.

So....uhm where did you get the express from? You haven't clarified that.

The Guardian and the Daily Caller were both reporting the same thing, so shoot the messenger appears to be a... well, moot point. No pun intended.

I'm sorry I was not aware it was policy on DP to only accept left wing sources as reliable. It isn't is it?

 

[cabse5]

You can set your watch by it. In spite of a thread with a video by a CBS news crew (obviously NOT an extreme right wing agency) and with actual videographic evidence in hand, the apologists simply cannot help themselves.

Must....defend....Islam.....

...Extremists.

 

[Gardener]

Sorry that's a false equivocation.
The "they're like the Nazi's" thing has been used and abused so retardingly much, that it doesn't work anymore.

Especially considering that the ones being defended are much more like Nazis than the ones attacked.

 

[Harry Guerrilla]

Especially considering that the ones being defended are much more like Nazis than the ones attacked.

At this point, I don't think Nazi comparisons work, unless the person/s are literal Nazi's of some type.

 

[VanceMack]

...Extremists.

No. Those that defend Islam at all costs dont take extremists into account. They ignore it. All that matters is defending Islam. Ironic that many (not all) that trip over themselves to defend Islam are the first ones on this site to condemn any and all forms of Christianity and regularly mock people that believe in sky fairies and imaginary friends.

 

[Mason66]

Since you live in Sweden surely you've noticed the rise in right wing extremism and anti-migrant propaganda. I suspect you gulp it down like Kool aide.

Is it still propaganda if it is the truth?

 

[reinoe]

The interviewer was Liz Hayes from 60 minutes, Australia. I'm Australian, and I've got no intention of watching this or any interview that 60 minutes choose to air in the future. I'm well aware of what goes on in the world without watching their garbage. I was a viewer up until recently until they aired a story titled "Preacher of Hate." It was about a radicalised online recruiter named Abu Haleema who resides in London and who spreads his online message of hate and propoganda to a wide audience with a specific aim to recruit the naive, stupid and vulnerable to carry out acts of terrorism and support terrorist activities.

They interviewed him fairly extensively and his hateful views were promoted by giving him 25 minutes of prime air time here. He should never have been given a platform to begin with and those idiots chose to give him one. Irresponsible journalism at it's finest.

It's irresponsible journalism to report the news. There you have it. :lamo:lamo

 

[VanceMack]

It's irresponsible journalism to report the news. There you have it. :lamo:lamo

60 Minutes is a cover for far right hate reporting. Huh....who knew?

Obviously...the cameramen and reporter must have spent the first 10 minutes off camera screaming anti Muslim comments and insulting the Prophet and THATS why they attacked them. it only LOOKED like there was no provocation....

 

[Moot]

Sorry that's a false equivocation.
The "they're like the Nazi's" thing has been used and abused so retardingly much, that it doesn't work anymore.

Of course it's been abused, but that doesn't change the fact that they're scapegoating a minority for their political agenda. There's plenty of examples throughout history to show where that can lead to.

 

[Harry Guerrilla]

Of course it's been abused, but that doesn't change the fact that they're scapegoating a minority for their political agenda. There's plenty of examples throughout history to show where that can lead to.

Scapegoating is when you blame somebody for something, they aren't doing.
They're unhappy the migrants are migrating and the government is allowing it willy nilly.

So it's not scapegoating.

 

[Moot]

To start with I was using the Guardian and the Daily Caller as the sources. The fact that they are opposites politically and reporting the same things gives it some credibility.

Where are you getting the Daily Express from? Its not a quoted source anywhere on this thread. Or are you self owning again?

What Guardian link did you post? Did I miss it?

Like I said, my question for another poster, so I'd like to wait for him to answer if that's okay with you.