Mexico's President Urges US to Reconsider Gun Laws

[tessaesque]

Seriously???

Mexico urges U.S. to review gun laws after Colorado shooting

 

[Wiseone]

Seriously???

Mexico urges U.S. to review gun laws after Colorado shooting

Well to be fair, we tell people how to handle domestic concerns all the time. And there's no doubt that US guns wind up in Mexico being used in criminal activities. But I agree its done in very poor taste

 

[DiAnna]

I would encourage Mexico to reconsider its corrupt government's policy of providing maps and instructions to assist Mexico's populace to illegally cross the border. Since Mexico's government has no ability to control the criminal element in its own society, it has no business telling the US what it should and should not do.

I'm sick to death of this horrific tragedy being sensationalized for political purposes.

 

[the_recruit]

if i hear one more news report calling it an assault rifle my head might explode

 

[The Mark]

if i hear one more news report calling it an assault rifle my head might explode

The real question I have is...

Why does it matter if someone used an "assault rifle" or not?


The intent was the same whether they did or did not...

 

[jamesrage]

Seriously???

Mexico urges U.S. to review gun laws after Colorado shooting

Mexico's President can kiss my ass.

 

[EagleAye]

Sounds like a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

 

[Daktoria]

Iraqi time machine is calling, saying we should have invaded Mexico instead.

 

[Hatuey]

Iraqi time machine is calling, saying we should have invaded Mexico instead.

Right. As if the US would want the type of colossal **** storm that was Iraq from 2003 to 2009 anywhere NEAR one of our borders. Wake up from that self aggrandizing dream and come up with something logical.

 

[Daktoria]

Right. As if the US would want the type of colossal **** storm that was Iraq from 2003 to 2009 anywhere NEAR one of our borders. Wake up from that self aggrandizing dream and come up with something logical.

Last I checked, Mexico doesn't have al Qaeda terrorists, suicide bombers, or sectarian militias all over the place...

...or are you telling me something I don't know?

 

[Hatuey]

Last I checked, Mexico doesn't have al Qaeda terrorists, suicide bombers, or sectarian militias all over the place...

...or are you telling me something I don't know?

No it just has hundreds of thousands of gang members, a civil war and vicious cartels with enough money to run elections while simultaneously killing thousands of civilians. Have you ever been to Mexico? I'm talking about the Mexico outside of resort. You sound really ignorant right now.

 

[specklebang]

They do have drug cartels who kill as many people as the Iraqi suicide bombers do. These cartels operate in America with increasing impunity as our corrupt politicians and DEA agents enable them.

Last I checked, Mexico doesn't have al Qaeda terrorists, suicide bombers, or sectarian militias all over the place...

...or are you telling me something I don't know?

 

[Paratrooper]

Nothing like getting robbed by the police in Nogales.....good times.

 

[Hatuey]

Nothing like getting robbed by the police in Nogales.....good times.

Nothing like getting robbed by the police anywhere in Mexico. I just came back from the country and heard horror stories from people backpacking and getting robbed in the middle of the night and being absolutely powerless. The best part is when Americans like Daktoria, who've probably never been to Mexico think that invading that country would be just another stroll in the park. Sure. If you ignore the fact that most Mexicans like the US government a lot less than they like their own government.

 

[Risky Thicket]

Mexico will lock your butt up in a second if they find even one bullet in your possession. A couple of years ago a guy from Phoenix drove his car down to Puerto Peñasco and the Federales found one bullet in his car while making a search as he crossed over into Mexico. The guy spent months in a Mexican jail. It took pressure from the State of Arizona to get the State of Senora (neighboring state in Mexico) to release the guy.

 

[Daktoria]

No it just has hundreds of thousands of gang members, a civil war and vicious cartels with enough money to run elections while simultaneously killing thousands of civilians. Have you ever been to Mexico? I'm talking about the Mexico outside of resort. You sound really ignorant right now.

Are you seriously calling the Zapatista Army in Chiapas a civil war?

Mexico is a mess, but it's nowhere close to as hostile as Iraq. Heck, many would embrace America for just cleaning up the trash.

 

[Daktoria]

They do have drug cartels who kill as many people as the Iraqi suicide bombers do. These cartels operate in America with increasing impunity as our corrupt politicians and DEA agents enable them.

All the more reason to invade. They're a threat to homeland security.

If you want to prove their drug cartels are as threatening as Iraqi sectarian militias, go for it.

 

[Risky Thicket]

Nothing like getting robbed by the police in Nogales.....good times.

La mordida. I always budget for that.

 

[Hatuey]

Are you seriously calling the Zapatista Army in Chiapas a civil war?

No. You're sounding even more ignorant right now because you have no clue what it is you're talking about. But I'm feeling generous tonight so I'll give you a clue. It'll help you figure out why it is you sound so ignorant:

Is there a Civil War Raging in Mexico?

Mexico is in a state of civil war and the central government is on the verge of collapse. Violence and lawlessness reign in the streets. On a recent Sunday morning news program former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich said Mexico “is in a state of civil war.” Movies like “Once upon a Time in Mexico” lead North American movie goers to believe a military coup in Mexico is imminent.
Is all this true? Is Mexico’s central government on the verge of succumbing to the drug cartels?
From the perspective of 20 years of travel in Baja, 10 years of living in Mexico and travel through the interior - categorically, no.

Drug violence spins Mexico toward 'civil war' - CNN

A shootout in a border city that leaves five alleged drug traffickers sprawled dead on the street and seven police wounded. A police chief and his bodyguards gunned down outside his house in another border city. Four bridges into the United States shut down by protesters who want the military out of their towns and who officials say are backed by narcotraffickers.

That was Mexico on Tuesday.

What is most remarkable is that it was not much different from Monday or Sunday or any day in the past few years.

http://tucsoncitizen.com/view-from-...report-mexico-in-‘civil-war’-with-drug-gangs/

By itself, the costs of the war declared by the Calderón government since its inception — and continued and accentuated, according to the information available, by U.S. pressure — cast extremely asymmetric and unjust costs for both countries: while ours has been the loss of more than 40 000 lives; the social fabric and the economy of entire regions has been destroyed; civil and military institutions show inevitable breakdown, and in many institutions there has been a true collapse of public security and the rule of law, the conflict has brought the United States a vast market in which to place its production of arms, a great quantity of money laundering which reports astronomical earnings for financial institutions in the neighboring country and, last but not least, a good excuse to multiply and deepen its interventionist actions in our country.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/09/cartels-snuff-social-media/

A scrawled sign was placed next to a decapitated body near a main road in the Mexican border city of Nuevo Laredo. Its message was simple: Stop talking about drug cartels on the internet — or anywhere else. “Nuevo Laredo en Vivo and social networking sites,” the sign read, “I’m The Laredo Girl, and I’m here because of my reports, and yours.”

The execution of Marisol Macias Castaneda — known online as “The Laredo Girl” and as “Nena de Laredo” — is the latest in a series of attacks against Mexicans who go online to discuss drug violence. It’s an epidemic which a new report describes as “so horrific as to approach a civil war.”

The report, released Monday by the Texas Department of Agriculture and authored by retired Major General Robert Scales and retired General Barry McCaffrey, describes a conflict in which drug cartels have forced the “capitulation” of Mexican border cities, killed more than 40,000 people and have fueled “an internal war in Mexico that has stripped that country of its internal security to the extent that a virtual state of siege now exists adjacent to our own southwestern states.”

Why don't you pick up a book on Mexico? It'll do you some help before you start talking out of the side of your mouth on things you clearly have not even the slightest knowledge about. It's fun that you didn't answer my questions. Have you been to Mexico? Ever?

 

[tessaesque]

I like where this thread is going.

 

[Hatuey]

I like where this thread is going.

Daktoria opened his mouth about Mexico. I just came back from a month and a half living in various areas of the country. That I mention Mexico's undeclared civil war and his first response is to mention Zapatistas is priceless. He clearly has zero clue about Mexico's sociopolitical condition right now.

 

[Daktoria]

A drug war is not a civil war. *Yawn*

Yes, things are chaotic. That doesn't mean you have an organized movement to create an independent political revolution.

I'm also waiting for you to compare what's going on now to what happened in Iraq.

 

[tessaesque]

Daktoria opened his mouth about Mexico. I just came back from a month and a half living in various areas of the country. That I mention Mexico's undeclared civil war and his first response is to mention Zapatistas is priceless. He clearly has zero clue about Mexico's sociopolitical condition right now.

I wasn't being sarcastic.

 

[Hatuey]

A drug war is not a civil war. *Yawn*

It's not called a civil war because it's a drug war. It's called a civil war because the cartels are actively fighting the government as well as each other. Again, that you had no clue what is actually going on in Mexico speaks volume. When was the last time you went to Mexico? Was it around the time Commander Marcos was relevant? :lol:

 

[Daktoria]

...and?

When organized crime infested New York City during the '70s and '80s, was that a civil war too?

Just because you're fighting the government doesn't mean you're overthrowing it.