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What stops them from doing it anyway, if some dude dresses convincingly like a woman and goes into a womans bathroom, that doesn't start happening because you stop discriminating against gays, makes no sense.Critics also voiced concerns over biological men using women’s bathrooms.
No Mormon would ever say that idiot. The curse was being separated from God.Uhh, I'm a Mormon and on the grounds of my religious beliefs the Civil Rights act should be overturned because my religion believes dark skin is a curse and they are inferior.
Just stupid.
I think that's kind of stupid. It doesn't matter what your sexual orientation is it should never bar you from a job. They can stop them from being Pastors, Priests, or anything like that because that is part of the organization, but they can't deny them any sort of normal job.Religious organizations should be exempt from the ordinance. No religious organization who holds as a tenant of its belief that homosexuality is an abomination should be forced to hire them.
I respectfully disagree. If a religious organization runs a school, they have the right to hire teachers and other staff who share the mission of the school and part of the mission of many such schools is to live the example of what they teach. It would be hypocritical for the school to teach students to live by a certain moral code and then have as teachers/staff at the school those who are unrepentant about living a lifestyle at odds with what the school teaches...I think that's kind of stupid. It doesn't matter what your sexual orientation is it should never bar you from a job. They can stop them from being Pastors, Priests, or anything like that because that is part of the organization, but they can't deny them any sort of normal job.
I can understand that. I go to BYU, a school that has a strict Honor Code and Teacher's have to follow the Honor Code as well as students. But Sexual Orientation should not bar a BYU Teacher anymore then it should bar a normal teacher. I can understand barring a teacher because of drug use, crime, promiscuity, and such things but Sexual Orientation doesn't fall under any of those.I respectfully disagree. If a religious organization runs a school, they have the right to hire teachers and other staff who share the mission of the school and part of the mission of many such schools is to live the example of what they teach. It would be hypocritical for the school to teach students to live by a certain moral code and then have as teachers/staff at the school those who are unrepentant about living a lifestyle at odds with what the school teaches...
So, in other words, you think it is fine to bar someone from a teaching job for those sins you believe are relevant, but not for a sin you don't think is relevant, even if someone else of another religion believes it is.I can understand that. I go to BYU, a school that has a strict Honor Code and Teacher's have to follow the Honor Code as well as students. But Sexual Orientation should not bar a BYU Teacher anymore then it should bar a normal teacher. I can understand barring a teacher because of drug use, crime, promiscuity, and such things but Sexual Orientation doesn't fall under any of those.
Okay, I went back and read the article again.So, in other words, you think it is fine to bar someone from a teaching job for those sins you believe are relevant, but not for a sin you don't think is relevant, even if someone else of another religion believes it is.
So, as long as it isn't YOUR ox getting gored, you don't care. Right.
This is the sort of thing Christians have been worrying about: being threatened by government into allowing a lifestyle into Christian organizations that the church is obligated to disapprove of, namely homosexuality.
Yeah, and I'm "just a paranoid right-wingnut" to think that one day gays will sue the Catholics and Baptists for not being allowed to marry in the church, or that one day pastors will be barred from speaking against homosexuality from the pulpit. :roll:
It's already gone further than anyone 25 years ago would have believed. If I'd told someone in 1985 that we'd live to see gay marriage legalized in several states, and churches forced to hire gay teachers for Private Christian Schools, they would've laughed and told me I was paranoid... but here we are.
No not now a days, at least I hope not. It is in the Book of Mormon though and I was just using it as an example. Also, pretty sure the fundamentalist mormons do think blacks are inferior just like the Fundamentalist Christians go crazy about the gays.No Mormon would ever say that idiot. The curse was being separated from God.
No not now a days, at least I hope not. It is in the Book of Mormon though and I was just using it as an example. Also, pretty sure the fundamentalist mormons do think blacks are inferior just like the Fundamentalist Christians go crazy about the gays.
It also says in the Book of Mormon that it's a sin to hate someone because of their skin color. Dark skin is a mark, not a curse. The curse was separation from God, the Dark Skin was just an easy way to let them know which group wanted to slaughter them.Jacob 3:9 said:Wherefore, a commandment I give unto you, which is the word of God, that ye revile no more against them because of the darkness of their skins; neither shall ye revile against them because of their filthiness; but ye shall remember your own filthiness, and remember that their filthiness came because of their fathers.
Well to be fair my school is baring people due to acts, your saying people should be bared for the way they are born. I thought acceptance of all peoples was something Christian's taught. I mean isn't in the Bible, Love thy neighbor as thyself. I would have thought that Christianity had gotten out of the dark age by now and judged people on what they do, not how they're wired. If your baring people because of how they were born then that is flat out discrimination and against the law I would think.So, in other words, you think it is fine to bar someone from a teaching job for those sins you believe are relevant, but not for a sin you don't think is relevant, even if someone else of another religion believes it is.
So, as long as it isn't YOUR ox getting gored, you don't care. Right.
This is the sort of thing Christians have been worrying about: being threatened by government into allowing a lifestyle into Christian organizations that the church is obligated to disapprove of, namely homosexuality.
Yeah, and I'm "just a paranoid right-wingnut" to think that one day gays will sue the Catholics and Baptists for not being allowed to marry in the church, or that one day pastors will be barred from speaking against homosexuality from the pulpit. :roll:
It's already gone further than anyone 25 years ago would have believed. If I'd told someone in 1985 that we'd live to see gay marriage legalized in several states, and churches forced to hire gay teachers for Private Christian Schools, they would've laughed and told me I was paranoid... but here we are.