Mask On or Off?

[Hari Seldon]

Anyone who quotes CNN, MSNBC, The NY Times, or WaPo has drunk gallons of Koolaid and is beyond hope.

I know, the National Enquirer is more your speed along with News Max which has real wingnuts.

 

[Paradoxical]

I know, the National Enquirer is more your speed along with News Max which has real wingnuts.

CNN is worse than a tabloid. They have admitted to being no more than political assassins and in the propaganda business.

Hmmmm. Who else in history did this......lemme think....do you know? Oh, I remember....Joseph Goebbels!!!


Did I show this EXACT quote from CNN yet?

Charlie Chester
CNN Technical Director

Look what we did! We got Trump out!
We portrayed Biden as a young geriatric.
If it wasn't for CNN, I don't know if Trump would have gotten voted out.
Our focus was to get Trump out of office without saying that's what it was.
Our next thing is going to be climate change awareness.
Yes, FEAR SELLS!
No one ever says these things out loud but it's obvious!
We were creating a story here. I think that's propaganda.

 

[Rawley]

but man would it be nice to watch these anti vaxxer/anti maskers shut the heck up when they realize that they are consequences for their decisions.

So you are telling us that we won't get Covid if we wear a mask.

 

[Ethel2]

CNN is worse than a tabloid. They have admitted to being no more than political assassins and in the propaganda business.

Hmmmm. Who else in history did this......lemme think....do you know? Oh, I remember....Joseph Goebbels!!!


Did I show this EXACT quote from CNN yet?

Charlie Chester
CNN Technical Director

Look what we did! We got Trump out!
We portrayed Biden as a young geriatric.
If it wasn't for CNN, I don't know if Trump would have gotten voted out.
Our focus was to get Trump out of office without saying that's what it was.
Our next thing is going to be climate change awareness.
Yes, FEAR SELLS!
No one ever says these things out loud but it's obvious!
We were creating a story here. I think that's propaganda.

Good for Charlie Chester!
He did his civic duty in helping to get a mass murderer out of office!
Whatever it takes!

 

[tshade]

I've had the covid infection last year and am now fully vaccinated, tell me why I should wear a mask in public?

The CDC should offer a bright orange or red card that we can wear around our necks telling others we're inoculated. Make it out of some impossibly hard to duplicate design like money with holographic water-marks.

I didn't mind being cautious before with masks, hand washing, distancing and rarely going out. But until they scientifically show that I'm a hazard, the mask comes off outdoors. I've seen the recommendations that vaccinated people may transmit the disease but not the medical evidence. I'll carry one for businesses that still require one, though yesterday when I went shopping, half the general public was mask free where I live.

If the covid variants become a problem, even for the vaccinated, then I will resume full time mask wearing.

From the CDC: "A growing body of evidence suggests that fully vaccinated people are less likely to have asymptomatic infection and potentially less likely to transmit SARS-CoV-2 to others. However, further investigation is ongoing."

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.

www.cdc.gov

Mask On or Off? Life Is Getting Back to Normal, and We’re Rusty. (Published 2021)

After the C.D.C. issued new guidelines, people are figuring out how to proceed. Some want to keep their face coverings on: “It saves me having to put on sunscreen.”

www.nytimes.com

More than 101 million Americans are fully vaccinated against COVID-19, CDC says

Over 43% have received at least one dose, and the average daily case count is down 16%.

www.cbsnews.com

You might try just wearing it to be civil and a good example....

 

[Ethel2]

You might try just wearing it to be civil and a good example....

There’s way too much disinformation out there.
Although it looks like there is about an 85% reduction in viral load in the noses of vaccinated people there is insufficient data to link that fact with far lower transmission rates among vaccinated people as yet.
Assuming we all want to follow the science we should all wear masks around other people who aren’t vaccinated until such time as it’s determined by existing data that we don’t need them.
When that happens I will be first in line to ditch mine.

 

[Waddy]

I wear a mask when I have to, but otherwise no. When they lift the mask requirement I will not be wearing one.

 

[jaeger19]

So you are telling us that we won't get Covid if we wear a mask.

This is exactly the stupidity I am talking about.
It's so tiring. This is why I have gone from a libertarian view of letting people decide for themselves..to realizing there is so many morons out there..that they need to be told what to do.

 

[Ethel2]

This is exactly the stupidity I am talking about.
It's so tiring. This is why I have gone from a libertarian view of letting people decide for themselves..to realizing there is so many morons out there..that they need to be told what to do.

Excellent post!

 

[snakestretcher]

So you are telling us that we won't get Covid if we wear a mask.

No, you are less likely to become infected; just as you are less likely to die in a car crash when wearing a seat belt, and less likely to suffer brain damage if you wear a bike helmet and land on your head in a crash. Is there any good reason for not wearing a seat belt or helmet? Why does this still need to be explained? 'Mitigation'; look it up.

 

[tshade]

There’s way too much disinformation out there.
Although it looks like there is about an 85% reduction in viral load in the noses of vaccinated people there is insufficient data to link that fact with far lower transmission rates among vaccinated people as yet.
Assuming we all want to follow the science we should all wear masks around other people who aren’t vaccinated until such time as it’s determined by existing data that we don’t need them.
When that happens I will be first in line to ditch mine.

Agree. And yes, there is disinformation, but 7th grade science and common sense tells us how a virus behaves and what precautions to take.....

 

[Rawley]

This is exactly the stupidity I am talking about.
It's so tiring. This is why I have gone from a libertarian view of letting people decide for themselves..to realizing there is so many morons out there..that they need to be told what to do.

THe only stupidity is your claim that one will end up dying in the hospital if you don't wear a mask. Ignorant fearmongering monumental stupidity.

 

[Ethel2]

Agree. And yes, there is disinformation, but 7th grade science and common sense tells us how a virus behaves and what precautions to take.....

Two year olds aren’t in 7th grade yet.
And covidiots behave more like two year olds than 13 year olds.

 

[snakestretcher]

THe only stupidity is your claim that one will end up dying in the hospital if you don't wear a mask. Ignorant fearmongering monumental stupidity.

Yeah, tell that to the families of the three million dead around the world, and the 600,000 dead in your country. The only "monumental stupidity" I recognise is in the morons who refuse vaccines and may end up fighting for their lives on ventilators. If they die I for one won't be sympathetic to idiots who should know better.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Yeah, tell that to the families of the three million dead around the world, and the 600,000 dead in your country. The only "monumental stupidity" I recognise is in the morons who refuse vaccines and may end up fighting for their lives on ventilators. If they die I for one won't be sympathetic to idiots who should know better.

Congrats to you Brits. It appears that you have rounded the corner. Sincere best wishes for a continuation of that.

(More charts and graphs at Daily Statistical Summary of COVID-19)​

 

[snakestretcher]

Congrats to you Brits. It appears that you have rounded the corner. Sincere best wishes for a continuation of that.

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(More charts and graphs at Daily Statistical Summary of COVID-19)​

Yes our NHS has done a really fantastic job-not bad for a socialised healthcare system so despised by conservatives here.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Yes our NHS has done a really fantastic job-not bad for a socialised healthcare system so despised by conservatives here.

Of Canada, China, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia, the UK, and the US, all but the US have one of those dreadful fascist socialized death panel administered so called "universal" healthcare systems.

Of Canada, China, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia, and the UK, in all but Italy and the UK does a person picked at random have a lower chance of dying from COVID-19 than does a person picked at random in the US. (The UK is within 5% of the US and getting closer daily.)

Of Canada, China, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia, and the UK, all have higher "clearance rates" for COVID-19 than does the US.

Of Canada, China, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia, and the UK, all have lower "Cases per Million" rates than does the US.

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[Lord of Planar]

Of Canada, China, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia, the UK, and the US, all but the US have one of those dreadful fascist socialized death panel administered so called "universal" healthcare systems.

Of Canada, China, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia, and the UK, in all but Italy and the UK does a person picked at random have a lower chance of dying from COVID-19 than does a person picked at random in the US. (The UK is within 5% of the US and getting closer daily.)

Of Canada, China, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia, and the UK, all have higher "clearance rates" for COVID-19 than does the US.

Of Canada, China, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia, and the UK, all have lower "Cases per Million" rates than does the US.

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That doesn't seem right. According to the cases per 1,000,000, more than 10% of the USA population contracted it.