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You know what to do if you want to continue the conversation. The discussion about it in this thread is done.You axed me to explain you, and I did. Now you're running away. Obviously a centrist in CA would be a liberal in NC.
In order to generate discussion, please answer any of the following questions:
1. What is your moral position toward swinging? Are you a person who practices monogammy but believe it is possible to have a happy and fulfilled swinging marriage? Are you a person who believes monogammy is the only morally justified means of being married?
2. What is your experience with swingers? Do you personally know any swingers? In your opinion, is their relationship successful?
3. Are you a swinger? Has it improved your relationship?
Then why are you still talking?You know what to do if you want to continue the conversation. The discussion about it in this thread is done.
Then why are you still talking?
Never heard of him. The avatar is available over the internet to anyone.Are you the same guy as Bassman? You're using his avatar.
I disagree. The vast majority of people are still monogamous
Recent studies reveal that 45-55% of married women and 50-60% of married men engage in extramarital sex at some time or another during their relationship (Atwood & Schwartz, 2002 - Journal of Couple & Relationship Therapy)
Well I know some non-swinging married couples who are miserable and are not emotionally stable. I agree with you if your marriage already sucks, swinging will not make it happier.
Neither do I, it's just not a frame of mind I want to have either in a relationship or a partner.Hoplite, if the people that are with me have no problem with my "loving possessively"? I do not see it as an issue.
I never said that I was above anyone else or that I find your choices wrong. I used "evolved" for lack of a better term; my thoughts and feelings were at one point then they changed to a different point that made me feel happier. I dont know what else you'd call that besides "evolving"Trust me when I say that people know all this even before taking it to realationship stats. I make it VERY clear.I am glad you think/feel you are evolved and above me in some way. Good for you man!
Im not sure what you mean by this.As for your not thinking that what I said about people do argue about things other than the "real" issue? Well we will just disagree on that as I know I am correct in that a large majority of arugments are based on this other than what is the underlying deep issue..
Unfortunately, some people believe that adding more variety to an already screwed up marriage will improve it. It won't.
Link? Or is this just anecdotal conjecture?
It very well can and for some couples is true. I think Deux was getting at the fact that many people overlook other foundational relationship problems in favor of increased variety and in such cases variety will not fix the relationship.Link? Or is this just anecdotal conjecture?
It seems a completely rational expectation to me.
Variety provides much needed contrast to keep things fresh and in perspective. Provide some reason why this principal should not apply to sex.
It very well can and for some couples is true. I think Deux was getting at the fact that many people overlook other foundational relationship problems in favor of increased variety and in such cases variety will not fix the relationship.
If your relationship has problems with communication or intimacy, these are things that need to be addressed before you start talking about variety.
Monogamy for me, I'm not secure enough for polygamy. Does that mean that no one should practice polygamy? No, just my personal preference, and I'd be a bigoted fool to push it on others.1. What is your moral position toward swinging? Are you a person who practices monogamy but believe it is possible to have a happy and fulfilled swinging marriage? Are you a person who believes monogamy is the only morally justified means of being married?
My mother dated a married polygamist before. I didn't care. Both the wife and husband in the relationship were happy, and who am I to want to spoil everyone's fun?2. What is your experience with swingers? Do you personally know any swingers? In your opinion, is their relationship successful?
No, and as I said, I don't think I have the security needed.3. Are you a swinger? Has it improved your relationship?
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