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Use of the word Marriage is unconstitutional as it promotes religious beliefs. The state only has the power to grant civil union and all unions are thus civil unions.
Go to church to get married.
Use of the word Marriage is unconstitutional as it promotes religious beliefs. The state only has the power to grant civil union and all unions are thus civil unions.
Go to church to get married.
Use of the word Marriage is unconstitutional as it promotes religious beliefs. The state only has the power to grant civil union and all unions are thus civil unions.
Go to church to get married.
Use of the word Marriage is unconstitutional as it promotes religious beliefs. The state only has the power to grant civil union and all unions are thus civil unions.
Go to church to get married.
Use of the word Marriage is unconstitutional as it promotes religious beliefs. The state only has the power to grant civil union and all unions are thus civil unions.
Go to church to get married.
I agree. We should have civil unions for all consenting adults. They would have legal force. Marriage should be left for churches and they could have any crazy requirements or restrictions they want. It would have no legal force.
The problem is, historically ministers and priests sanctified marriages, and the law carried on that tradition even when we stopped allowing the church to interfere in civil matters. We should have made the separation at the founding of the country, but didn't. We should do it now.
I agree and add, it should be any two people who agree to coexist and depend on each other. Here I'm thinking about all the women and their daughters who've given up on the idea of either re-marrying and with the exception of sex, their roles as the two parents, the sharing of assets and income, and so on is virtually the same. Or two friends. If divorce weren't so common, one might argue against this as it might not be as permanent as marriage, but truth is, marriage isn't very permanent anymore.I agree. We should have civil unions for all consenting adults. They would have legal force. Marriage should be left for churches and they could have any crazy requirements or restrictions they want. It would have no legal force.
The problem is, historically ministers and priests sanctified marriages, and the law carried on that tradition even when we stopped allowing the church to interfere in civil matters. We should have made the separation at the founding of the country, but didn't. We should do it now.
Use of the word Marriage is unconstitutional as it promotes religious beliefs. The state only has the power to grant civil union and all unions are thus civil unions.
Go to church to get married.
What is this thread about? Are you objecting to people saying they're married if it was a civil ceremony? Or to the fact that churches can create a legal institution?
1.) Marriage is a religious word. The state has no religious authority. The state only has civil authority and all state unions are civil unions.
No that the state uses religious language. Marriage is a religious word. The state has no religious authority. The state only has civil authority and all state unions are civil unions.
So how would you have the State describe a state of marriage? On the form where it says, 'marital status', what should it say? "Have you entered into a civil union?"
I'm not buying it. I think you're quibbling, which means I'm quibbling, too.
Later.
No, religion does not own the word marriage. It owns "holy matrimony" (sort of), but not marriage. No group or person can own the word "marriage" so it cannot be legitimately claimed by religion.
I agree. We should have civil unions for all consenting adults. They would have legal force. Marriage should be left for churches and they could have any crazy requirements or restrictions they want. It would have no legal force.
The problem is, historically ministers and priests sanctified marriages, and the law carried on that tradition even when we stopped allowing the church to interfere in civil matters. We should have made the separation at the founding of the country, but didn't. We should do it now.
Use of the word Marriage is unconstitutional as it promotes religious beliefs. The state only has the power to grant civil union and all unions are thus civil unions.
Go to church to get married.
Marriage has always been the basis of every stable human society, regardless of what religions may have had what degrees of influence in any given society.
Any government has a vested interest in promoting those things that lead to a stable and prosperous society for all of its citizens, and marriage is one of the most essential of these institutions.
sorry this is the most illogical, irrational, nonsensical and factually false and failed argument i have ever read on this issue.
i would LOVE for you to try and support this false claim.
LEGAL marriage promotes ZERO religious beliefs, ZERO. Stating otherwise is 100% false
it also stops ZERO people from going to church and having a religious marriage which has nothing to do with legal marriage.
this is already true now for religious marriage, so its already done
No, religion does not own the word marriage. It owns "holy matrimony" (sort of), but not marriage. No group or person can own the word "marriage" so it cannot be legitimately claimed by religion.
But that's what the fight is over. I think the battle is stupid but there it is. So I suspect that if we just stopped using the term marriage in a legal context, and switch to civil unions for everybody, the conflict would end. Everybody could say they won, since religious groups could claim that only their marriages counts, and nobody would care since it would have no legal force.
Absolutely and ludicrously false.Use of the word Marriage is unconstitutional as it promotes religious beliefs. The state only has the power to grant civil union and all unions are thus civil unions.
Go to church to get married.
The Supreme Court will not be declaring marriage unconstitutional any time soon.
Trust me on this one.
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