Many polls showing Trump with a crushing win in debate

[clownboy]

That was not a post debate poll. Its a Florida primary poll.

And Trump seems to be leading in every primary poll, although MN has Walker up by a point.

It reflects the absolute anomie of the Republican voter.

When did the debate happen? When was the poll taken?

 

[Verax]

That was not a post debate poll. Its a Florida primary poll.

And Trump seems to be leading in every primary poll, although MN has Walker up by a point.

It reflects the absolute anomie of the Republican voter.

I keep reminding myself of 2012 when Gengrich, Santorum, Bachmann?, Perry?, didn't the entire field take turns as the front runner on a weekly basis? It was a crazy game of musical chairs.

I also keep in mind this is very early and could be an extended lapse of people just not being very serious right now. Time will tell...

 

[Redress]

Btw, the first "scientific" polling I've seen on RCP shows a Trump gain. Even more significant, it's a Florida poll which heavily favors Jeb.

RealClearPolitics - Latest Polls

That poll is actually pre-debate. Any effect on the debate has on polling will not be evident for a couple more days(rolling averages for example tend to hide bumps from debates at least for a day or two).

 

[Threegoofs]

I keep reminding myself of 2012 when Gengrich, Santorum, Bachmann?, Perry?, didn't the entire field take turns as the front runner on a weekly basis? It was a crazy game of musical chairs.

I also keep in mind this is very early and could be an extended lapse of people just not being very serious right now. Time will tell...

Oh, there is no question its people not taking it seriously. There are a lot of idiots in the US, and clearly a large concentration of idiots who call themselves Conservatives, but not enough to actually nominate Trump for President when it comes down to it.

 

[Redress]

I pass this along with a major caveat: opinion piece, not sure how much credibility to give it. It is however an interesting read and I got there from a link on 538, the writer there thinking he might be onto something. But please do not take this as god given fact, nor think I am endorsing the view. I consider it possible though:

https://medium.com/@PatrickRuffini/trumped-up-polls-c0d351831cfa

 

[Threegoofs]

When did the debate happen? When was the poll taken?

Seems like you would have looked at that BEFORE you posted it as an example of a post debate poll. So why are you asking me?

The poll was published the day after the debate, yes. But it wasnt done post debate. It takes a bit of time to collate and report data.

 

[cpwill]

People want to be entertained, Trump is entertaining. Our country's view of politics has paralleled the change in what we like to watch as "news".

Pretty much this. That's why Trumps' numbers are likely to climb after the "real" polling comes out. He's fun to watch.

 

[radioman]

I keep reminding myself of 2012 when Gengrich, Santorum, Bachmann?, Perry?, didn't the entire field take turns as the front runner on a weekly basis? It was a crazy game of musical chairs.

I also keep in mind this is very early and could be an extended lapse of people just not being very serious right now. Time will tell...

You left out Herman Cain and yes.....Donald Trump....again.
They were at or near the top of the polls in 2012.
A fairly significant portion of the GOP wanted someone...anyone....to "give it to Obama".
Now, they've got Trump.
He's more than willing to "give it to Obama" and just about everyone else.
This whole Trump business is really entertaining.

 

[Roadvirus]

A crushing win for Trump is going to result in a crushing loss for the GOP against Hillary.

I can imagine no one she would rather run against.

What a load of arrogance.

Hillary couldn't get elected dog catcher with the garbage she has connected to her.

 

[CanadaJohn]

These polls remind me of the results that we used to see in the DP polls section until the process was changed to eliminate the ability of non-members to troll and skew the results.

Only polls that matter are 6 months away and will be conducted by and for people who actually care about the Presidential election.

 

[blaxshep]

Pretty much this. That's why Trumps' numbers are likely to climb after the "real" polling comes out. He's fun to watch.

Celebrity President. I hope he wins and turns the Presidency into a reality show...:lamo

 

[cpwill]

Celebrity President. I hope he wins and turns the Presidency into a reality show...:lamo

:shrug: it'd be the logical extension of our current idiot-culture.

Mobocracy and President Comancho. Vote Trump - He'll Fix All The Bad Stuff!

 

[Sherman123]

I realize they are not scientific and properly conducted polls. However they span a couple different corners of media and all are largely in agreeance. This could be a huge fluke but I expect a good poll to be fairly similar.

I can only reiterate that self-selecting online polls are completely meaningless.

 

[clownboy]

Seems like you would have looked at that BEFORE you posted it as an example of a post debate poll. So why are you asking me?

The poll was published the day after the debate, yes. But it wasnt done post debate. It takes a bit of time to collate and report data.

You're right, the poll was conducted on the 3rd.

 

[Sherman123]

Btw, the first "scientific" polling I've seen on RCP shows a Trump gain. Even more significant, it's a Florida poll which heavily favors Jeb.

RealClearPolitics - Latest Polls

This is a state primary poll which was conducted on August 3rd, before the debate, and published today. We still haven't had any scientific polling from the post-debate period. I expect we'll see something sometime next week with some less accurate quick turn around results from some organizations eager to beat the punch by later this weekend.

 

[Winchester]

:shrug: it'd be the logical extension of our current idiot-culture.

Mobocracy and President Comancho. Vote Trump - He'll Fix All The Bad Stuff!

:lol:

 

[blaxshep]

:shrug: it'd be the logical extension of our current idiot-culture.

Mobocracy and President Comancho. Vote Trump - He'll Fix All The Bad Stuff!

Look on the bright side, it might get some people interested in politics.

 

[Henrin]

Similar conclusions have been drawn about Trump repeatedly, especially by respected pundits on both sides of the aisle. It's clear the rules have changed and is why I believe this is a bad omen, something isn't right here, not just with these polls, but with the entire Trump phenomena.

Your opponents become more set in their ways the more you force things away from their views. Liberals are simply wrong if they think they can force the whole country left.

 

[cpwill]

Look on the bright side, it might get some people interested in politics.

Those are the very people I want to be far too busy updating their facebook statuses to ever, ever, ever, ever try to influence politics.

 

[Captain America]

That (supporting their guy) is what BOTH SIDES (DEM and GOP) do.

It is the independents who decide the elections.

If the Independents want Trump then more power to him. I rather doubt it however.

The Independents voted for BHO last time around, and the time before that.

The GOP opponents were viewed as incompetent. Trump is also incompetent.

Ergo the Independents are more likely to choose Hillary over Trump.

Fox is right -- Trump better not be anywhere on the ticket.

Bingo. We have a winner!

 

[FLGuru]

You left out Herman Cain and yes.....Donald Trump....again.
They were at or near the top of the polls in 2012.
A fairly significant portion of the GOP wanted someone...anyone....to "give it to Obama".
Now, they've got Trump.
He's more than willing to "give it to Obama" and just about everyone else.
This whole Trump business is really entertaining.

Cain was killed by a hit job by the establishment. The difference with Trump is that he's not going to lose his funding if there's a controversy. Plus everyone knows the controversies already. Cain went down in the polls, his funding dried up, and he's out. That's how the establishment gets it's candidates.

That debate was a hit job by Rupert Murdoch from the first question to the Frank Luntz's bogus "focus group". Problem is, it just made Trump supporters mad at Fox News.

 

[blaxshep]

Similar conclusions have been drawn about Trump repeatedly, especially by respected pundits on both sides of the aisle. It's clear the rules have changed and is why I believe this is a bad omen, something isn't right here, not just with these polls, but with the entire Trump phenomena.

I believe the bottom line is (at least early on) that the people are sick and tired to the status quo of "respected pundit approved" puppets that will promise everything and then fall in line once elected and deliver nothing. I looked at 9 out of ten candidates and almost knew exactly what each was going to say before they even said it, blah, blah, blah nothing elect me so I can fall in line and do what I am told just like the last few presidents before me. People want change and sorry the only one that stands out as someone that will change things come hell or high water for good or for bad is Trump. I can think of nothing better than watching President Trump calling Nancy Pelosi a stupid bitch for not supporting what ever the hell it is he wants on National TV. :cheers:

 

[Verax]

Your opponents become more set in their ways the more you force things away from their views. Liberals are simply wrong if they think they can force the whole country left.

The country has drifted right economically for the past 35 years and until the economic collapse the left as a whole didn't really fight it hard or become at all economically radical. Only recently when we hit rock bottom do we see any kind of correction.

Socially the country has drifted to the left for many decades and most of the right has lost its mind repeatedly yet here we are continuing in that direction.

 

[Riveroaks]

Bingo. We have a winner!

It's just my early read on things. I would be surprised if anyone sensitive and informed enough to be Independent would be impressed in the least by Trump.

The Independents weren't impressed by Romney nor by McCain and saw through both of their flaws.

 

[Verax]

Looks like most see the Trump circus as a meaningless blip. I used to but have recently changed my mind, something is wrong. I'm pretty sure the end is nigh and we are going to see a very, very strange Republican primary (relatively speaking here, stranger than usual) and you won't believe what happens.

I will bookmark this thread for reference next year as proof my dark prophecy was correct. :lol: