Man killed during FBI raid in connection with threats against Biden, other officials

[justoneman]

What were you referring to, considering this is a thread about a man who made threats to kill the president on social media?

You are being obtuse now. You already read my posts. Stop trying to put words in my mouth.

 

[Old 'N Chill]

It's not about slaying people we don't like....had he not pointed a gun at the FBI, he would be alive. It is a crime to make death threats toward public officials, including the president and others....and it is stupid as hell to point a gun at cops.

These people make me sick. There's a rightwing MAGAt gun nutter who wants to shoot and kill people who he doesn't like, in defense of a traitor who incited a COUP in the United States of America.

Yet they defend this piece of shit and try to blame the FBI and police officers. Like I said earlier, some sick ****s running around trying to kill people and children for no reason at all. Stop them and lock the unpatriotic homegrown terrorists up for life. Enough is enough already in this country. They are destroying it before the eyes of the world.

VOTE DEMOCRATIC AND STOP THE KILLINGS AND INSANITY.

 

[ElChupacabra]

You are being obtuse now. You already read my posts. Stop trying to put words in my mouth.

I did no such thing. I called out your rather daft equivocation of saying things online versus specific death threats to the president which prompted the FBI to act.

 

[justoneman]

I did no such thing. I called out your rather daft equivocation of saying things online versus specific death threats to the president which prompted the FBI to act.

You are now continuing to attempt to put words in my mouth. I say nothing about this guy's online posts and I say nothing about the serving of a warrant. I only am saying we know little about the scene of the shooting.

 

[Old 'N Chill]

It wasn’t just the president.

Typical of the Trump Cult Party who want to kill off anyone who opposes them, they think that will help them win elections and rule the country.

They will lie, manipulate, threaten and attack in order to cheat in American elections, they want to eliminate the majority of Americans. They are the enemy within, they are like a cancer in the USA.

 

[ElChupacabra]

You are now continuing to attempt to put words in my mouth. I say nothing about this guy's online posts and I say nothing about the serving of a warrant. I only am saying we know little about the scene of the shooting.

That's not what you said, but I guess you're going to double down. So let's look at what you said which I responded to:

Be careful what you say online about Biden, or you may be killed by the FBI.

What are you referring to here? Is it not to the shooting of Robertson by the FBI, or some other shooting?

Oh my god! did I just say something that puts me on the list?!?

So were you referring to being placed on a Christmas list, airline waiting list, or some other list?

What would be great is if you could show where I put words into your mouth.

 

[Old 'N Chill]

I don't give a shit if he was in a wheelchair without legs. He posted dangerous threats aimed at the president and others, LE knew he was armed to the hilt, he invited FBI agents to try and get him threatening their lives as well. So, oh well, it didn't end well for him. Just another Ashlie Babbitt who will be martyred by the right.

Another day in MAGAs America.

I can't believe there are scumbags here defending and making excuses for this piece of shit. Typical for unpatriotic trump suckers. American trash.

 

[Deuce]

Almost every article I read says he was "armed". One article says that an anonymous official says he pointed a gun. "Armed" and "pointing a gun" can be vastly different things.

He literally posted on social media that next time the FBI shows up, he was going to murder them. It's really not a stretch to believe he is just a fatal case of FAFO.

 

[justoneman]

That's not what you said, but I guess you're going to double down. So let's look at what you said which I responded to:


What are you referring to here? Is it not to the shooting of Robertson by the FBI, or some other shooting?


So were you referring to being placed on a Christmas list, airline waiting list, or some other list?

What would be great is if you could show where I put words into your mouth.

I guess they do not have jokes where you come from.

 

[justoneman]

He literally posted on social media that next time the FBI shows up, he was going to murder them. It's really not a stretch to believe he is just a fatal case of FAFO.

So you are saying for a fact that you know he pointed a gun at the FBI agents?

 

[Questerr]

If the guy was alive it would be defamation of character. I do not know if the family can sue over it, but it's a big deal if it ends up his gun was holstered.

Defamation of character? The dude made open threats to murder people.

 

[ElChupacabra]

I guess they do not have jokes where you come from.

They do, and this would be a bad joke. What's funny about someone being killed in this manner?

 

[justoneman]

They do, and this would be a bad joke. What's funny about someone being killed in this manner?

I never claimed it was a "good" joke.

 

[Objective Voice]

You are now continuing to attempt to put words in my mouth. I say nothing about this guy's online posts and I say nothing about the serving of a warrant. I only am saying we know little about the scene of the shooting.

Regardless, we know the man was a threat online (i.e., his countless SM posts) and in person (i.e., he challenged federal LE to serve him with a warrant and when they did, he brandished a weapon at them and they retaliated "to defend themselves" because "they feared for their lives". (See how that works? Oh, but you don't like that game now because it's the F.B.I. who took defensive action to protect themselves, stayed alive and went home to their families. The hypocrisy is strong in you guys.)

Allow me to say it again - to you and everyone else who's still finding every excuse in the book to defend this man for his recklessness:

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

I'd say dude wrote a check his a** couldn't cash, and now he's a blood stain on the carpet. As some Alabamians recently learned:

1. Don't start none; won't be none.
2. F*** around and you will find out...the hard way.

You make death threats against the POTUS, VPOTUS or any other state or federal public official, you can and most likely WILL find yourself...

 

[Nickyjo]

I don't think I'd compare this to her story. I don't know if I feel sorry for him. I don't care who's in office you don't threaten our president. I'll give the benefit of the doubt to the FBI.

Agreed. But I feel for those affected by the polarization of our politics, and/or taken in by Trump’s irresponsible falsehoods.

Our polarization problems seem to have started with Spiro Agnew’s insults, which seem playful by today’s standards. Thence came Gingrich’s strategy of demonizing the opposition and bomb-throwing legislative style, with Trump’s behavior almost a logical continuance of that approach. The left has stuff to answer for in its demonizing of the police, the apocalyptic tactics in parts of the anti-war movement, and in Antifa more recently. But US politics skews conservative compared to similar countries, so much of the left’s craziness is outside the mainstream of the Democratic Party, and Biden does not seem to me to have the same headaches on his left flank as McCarthy has on his right.

 

[DrewPaul]

Agreed. But I feel for those affected by the polarization of our politics, and/or taken in by Trump’s irresponsible falsehoods.

Our polarization problems seem to have started with Spiro Agnew’s insults, which seem playful by today’s standards. Thence came Gingrich’s strategy of demonizing the opposition and bomb-throwing legislative style, with Trump’s behavior almost a logical continuance of that approach. The left has stuff to answer for in its demonizing of the police, the apocalyptic tactics in parts of the anti-war movement, and in Antifa more recently. But US politics skews conservative compared to similar countries, so much of the left’s craziness is outside the mainstream of the Democratic Party, and Biden does not seem to me to have the same headaches on his left flank as McCarthy has on his right.

You're forgetting one other player in this debacle. The American people. We too easily tolerate poor to terrible governance as long as its the party we love. This idea that one party is righteous and almost holy and the other party is the devil incarnate means we pick along party lines regardless of ability to lead or govern.

We need to demand better governance no matter the party and throw the bums out who don't.

 

[Nickyjo]

You're forgetting one other player in this debacle. The American people. We too easily tolerate poor to terrible governance as long as its the party we love. This idea that one party is righteous and almost holy and the other party is the devil incarnate means we pick along party lines regardless of ability to lead or govern.

We need to demand better governance no matter the party and throw the bums out who don't.

Agreed.

 

[Questerr]

I never claimed it was a "good" joke.

How are his threats any kind of joke?

 

[ClaraD]

If the guy was alive it would be defamation of character. I do not know if the family can sue over it, but it's a big deal if it ends up his gun was holstered.

truth is a defense..not to mention something that you perceive as true, because it was reported to you by law enforcement...

 

[ClaraD]

After reading those posts of his you're saying he could sue for defamation of character??

I am not sure how his character could be more maligned than he did to himself....what a weird character

 

[SenorXm/Sirius]

You're forgetting one other player in this debacle. The American people. We too easily tolerate poor to terrible governance as long as its the party we love. This idea that one party is righteous and almost holy and the other party is the devil incarnate means we pick along party lines regardless of ability to lead or govern.

We need to demand better governance no matter the party and throw the bums out who don't.

What does any of that to do with threatening to kill the POTUS?? Vote him out, don't talk about using a sniper rifle to kill him..

 

[911Sparky]

Same. Hell I got a visit from Secret Service once, early as hell.

Questioned us about passing a counterfeit $50 at the pizza place, told them we got it from the bank when he cashed his check.

Opened the door, answered their questions, lived to see the next day.

Who knew we had a hardened criminal on the forum? JK LOL

 

[911Sparky]

Well if that's the route you want to take let me remind you of what you said about Amir Locke who was shot and killed during a no knock warrant while actually asleep on a couch---

Amir Locke pointed a gun at police who were serving a lawful warrant and who had identified themselves as police multiple times while entering the apartment. They were in full uniform. That was ruled legally justified.

Now let's go over the fact neighbors heard police (who had a lawful arrest and search warrants) ordering him to come out with his hands up and one neighbor hear him yelling back at them, ignoring their commands and pointing a weapon.

So unlike Amir who had been dead asleep when agents broke down the door to the apartment, Robertson knew exactly who was outside his home and made the decision to point a gun at them. Weird you didn't mention all that risky and escalatory way stuff in that shooting. Why is that?

Truth, integrity and consistency are not in that posters vocabulary.

 

[Superfly]

Who knew we had a hardened criminal on the forum? JK LOL

I used to work for a BMW dealer in Syracuse. All the bougie customers were sitting in the waiting room, nearby where I was cutting up with a parts dept rep. I said something, and he said, “you should be nicer.” I said, “Funny, my parole officer said the same thing.”

You could have heard a pin drop in that room, and they all looked at me so funny when I walked out.

 

[GOP Hippo]

Exactly what makes that “obvious”?

His actions, threats, rantings..................
Suicide by law enforcement should be a clue.
Did he seem mentally ok to you?