Lunatic West Attacks a Real Hero

[pinqy]

LOL.

The Iraqi policeman made up the facts of the attack which was thwarted. Gotcha.

There was no thwarted attack. There was never any evidence or sign of an attack. Nothing Hahmoomdi said was true...he admitted this later.

 

[Mycroft]

Really he has said some pretty stupid things....show me where he is called a racist.

It was an illustration...as in identifying a color and being called a racist for doing so. Liberals are known for that kind of thing. Sorry I had to explain that to you...but, WHOOSH!!, it went right over your head.

Link where liberals have questioned a wounded veteran's loyalty without cause.

Well, for one, though he wasn't wounded, liberals sure made hay about GW Bush's loyalty based on his military record. Y'all even got that scion of the liberal media on board...and he retired in shame over his part in it.

Define smart....to me he is a lying hyperbolic psychopath.

He has 3 Masters degrees. I'd say he's pretty smart. Shrug...of course, a biased liberal like yourself might not be impressed. So it goes.

Yes by simply repeating his words and actions....

Are you kidding me?? Dude...read this thread. Heck! just read your previous statement!!

That is some nice whine.......notice whenever someone on the right is called out the "left wing media" meme comes into play

No whine involved...just facts here. Sorry you can't handle facts. That kind of thing seems to be a big problem for liberals.

Can you show me how to do introspection on someone else???????????????

LOL!! Nah...that would just be a wasted effort. Learn to do introspection on yourself, first. If you can succeed in that, I might reconsider.

Again what part of the West quotes are made up?

Maybe you didn't understand what I wrote. "...a soundbite that you can twist, fold, spindle and mutilate into something you can attack him with." The OP's linked article from HuffPo did exactly that and you liberals in this forum ran with the ball.

 

[Misterveritis]

There was no thwarted attack. There was never any evidence or sign of an attack. Nothing Hahmoomdi said was true...he admitted this later.

Even that bastion of Conservatism CNN said there was:

Apparently not knowing where West's gun was aimed, Hamoody cracked and gave information about the planned ambush on West's convoy, thwarting the attack.

West said there were no further ambushes on U.S. forces in Taji until he was relieved of his leadership post on October 4.​

 

[Mycroft]

LTC, not COL.

LOL!!! That's one of the funniest, most pathetic things I've ever heard anyone say...and it's an outright admission that you know NOTHING about the military.

If one is addressing correspondence to the Officer, then it is appropriate to use the abbreviation LTC. But if one is speaking to...or about...him, Col. is appropriate. Same with 2nd Lt and the various General ranks.

 

[pinqy]

LOL!!! That's one of the funniest, most pathetic things I've ever heard anyone say...and it's an outright admission that you know NOTHING about the military.

If one is addressing correspondence to the Officer, then it is appropriate to use the abbreviation LTC. But if one is speaking to...or about...him, Col. is appropriate. Same with 2nd Lt and the various General ranks.

Yes, if one is talking about an LTC or LCdr, it is customary to simply say Colonel or Commander, because it's easier. But in writing the abbreviation? It's no easier to write COL than LTC. So when using the abbreviation, the proper rank should be used. Same with 1LT, 2LT, LTjg, etc. And seriously, you.'ll look like a fool if you question my knowledge of the military. I have far more service than you do.

 

[Mycroft]

Yes, if one is talking about an LTC or LCdr, it is customary to simply say Colonel or Commander, because it's easier. But in writing the abbreviation? It's no easier to write COL than LTC. So when using the abbreviation, the proper rank should be used. Same with 1LT, 2LT, LTjg, etc. And seriously, you.'ll look like a fool if you question my knowledge of the military. I have far more service than you do.

Ah...so your only defense is what is "easier" rather than what is proper, appropriate or accepted. You aren't, by any chance, a liberal, eh? They like to go the "easy" route and generally get upset when people call them out on it.

I don't have to question your knowledge of the military...even if you DO erroneously think you might have more time in service than I do...you call your knowledge into question all by yourself when you say things like you just did.

 

[pinqy]

Ah...so your only defense is what is "easier" rather than what is proper, appropriate or accepted.

That was covered under "customary." It is NOT customary, proper, appropiate or accepted to use the abbreviation COL for LTC or Cdr for LCdr, or SGT for SFC etc. Using the full words and using abbreviations are different. I have never ever seen COL used as an abbrevation for a Lieutenant Colonel, in any military writing, though I've certainly heard and referred to many Lieutenant Colonels as Colonel.

 

[pinqy]

Even that bastion of Conservatism CNN said there was:

Apparently not knowing where West's gun was aimed, Hamoody cracked and gave information about the planned ambush on West's convoy, thwarting the attack.

West said there were no further ambushes on U.S. forces in Taji until he was relieved of his leadership post on October 4.​

Hamoodi gave details of an attack. West's unit prepared for the described attack which was to be a sniper attack. There was no attack, and no information was ever found that supported that the described attack had ever been planned. It's a stretch to say the attack was "thwarted" when there's no evidence any attack was actually planned.

 

[Sababa]

It was an illustration...as in identifying a color and being called a racist for doing so. Liberals are known for that kind of thing. Sorry I had to explain that to you...but, WHOOSH!!, it went right over your head.

So when asked to back up your stupid lie you get snarky......cute....typical right wing lunacy.

Well, for one, though he wasn't wounded, liberals sure made hay about GW Bush's loyalty based on his military record. Y'all even got that scion of the liberal media on board...and he retired in shame over his part in it.

so again nothing.....

He has 3 Masters degrees. I'd say he's pretty smart. Shrug...of course, a biased liberal like yourself might not be impressed. So it goes.

hmm so now academic accomplishments are good things. Is there a right wing to English dictionary some where. As for his degrees, where did he get them? That is a good measure of their value.

Are you kidding me?? Dude...read this thread. Heck! just read your previous statement!!

ummmm I don't even know what you are saying here. You are complaining about people pointing out what he said.

No whine involved...just facts here. Sorry you can'

t handle facts. That kind of thing seems to be a big problem for liberals.
Actually facts appear to be allergens to the right so let me be point blank: Is questioning Rep Duckworth's patriotism valid? If so why?

LOL!! Nah...that would just be a wasted effort. Learn to do introspection on yourself, first. If you can succeed in that, I might reconsider.

You don't know what the word introspection means. Please stop using it.

Maybe you didn't understand what I wrote. "...a soundbite that you can twist, fold, spindle and mutilate into something you can attack him with." The OP's linked article from HuffPo did exactly that and you liberals in this forum ran with the ball.

Show me how it was twisted....be specific.

 

[Mycroft]

Show me

Screw you. You aren't worth the time or effort. You got nothing but insults and idiocy for those you disagree with. Quips and confrontation is your stock and trade. Sometimes it's fun to play with your type...sometimes it's tedious.

You are tedious.

You are dismissed.

 

[apdst]

Hamoodi gave details of an attack. West's unit prepared for the described attack which was to be a sniper attack. There was no attack, and no information was ever found that supported that the described attack had ever been planned. It's a stretch to say the attack was "thwarted" when there's no evidence any attack was actually planned.

It's war, not an episode of Law and Order.

 

[Misterveritis]

Hamoodi gave details of an attack. West's unit prepared for the described attack which was to be a sniper attack. There was no attack, and no information was ever found that supported that the described attack had ever been planned. It's a stretch to say the attack was "thwarted" when there's no evidence any attack was actually planned.

I have read that the attack was to begin with a roadside improvised explosive device followed by the murder of the battalion commander. The attack did not happen. How is that not thwarted?

I think you are trying way to hard.

 

[pinqy]

I have read that the attack was to begin with a roadside improvised explosive device followed by the murder of the battalion commander. The attack did not happen. How is that not thwarted?

I'm told aliens will invade tomorrow unless I wear a tinfoil hat. If I do, and no aliens invade, will you agree that I thwarted the attack?

Back to West. It is possible that because Hamoodi talked, the planned attack was called off.
It is also possible that no attack occurred because no attack was planned.
Which do facts support?
No other intel suggested any attack (and if it had, then West' s actions were unnecessary).
None of Hamoodi' s other info bore fruit. One arrest for possession of two rifles. No plans, maps, no conspiracy.

Therefore, since the only thing to suggest an attack (besides just being in Iraq) was the claim of a man who had just been beaten, had a pistol fired right next to him and was told he would be killed UN less he talked.

 

[Navy Pride]

Alan West, the disgraced lunatic who was forced out of the military and then lost his seat in Congress is attacking Rep. Tammy Duckworth and questioning her patriotism. It isn't the first time the GOP has attacked a wounded war veteran, but this is disgusting as there is a simple political component. For those who think this guy should be anywhere near the Oval Office, just what do you see in the piece of dreck.

Allen West Says Rep. Tammy Duckworth, Decorated Veteran, Not 'Loyal' To America

God bless Alan West a career military man and a patriot who has been constantly smeared by the left because he is black and a Conservative...Can you say Justice Clarence Thomas? Thank you for your service Colonel West.............

 

[jmotivator]

I'm told aliens will invade tomorrow unless I wear a tinfoil hat.

Because in your mind the reports of ambushes in Afghanistan are no different than UFO sightings?

 

[pinqy]

Because in your mind the reports of ambushes in Afghanistan are no different than UFO sightings?

You really don't understand analogies, do you? I'll break it down: If it is claimed that something will happen, and then it doesn't, was it prevented from happening or was it never going to happen? In the case of the ambush West claims was thwarted, there is no evidence that any ambush was actually planned. And Hamoodi claims he made up everything because he was told he would be killed if he didn't talk. So the only evidence that there was a planned ambush were the words of a man who was told to talk or die. Nothing he said after West's interrogation was confirmed.

 

[Thrilla]

questioning a veterans patriotism doesn't sit well me at all... there's really no need or excuse for it.... **** West for doing it.

that said, I find liberals/lefties/democrats being in a tizzy over this to be quite hypocritical, considering the treatment they afforded John Mccain during his presidential run.

 

[Misterveritis]

I'm told aliens will invade tomorrow unless I wear a tinfoil hat. If I do, and no aliens invade, will you agree that I thwarted the attack?

Back to West. It is possible that because Hamoodi talked, the planned attack was called off.
It is also possible that no attack occurred because no attack was planned.
Which do facts support?
No other intel suggested any attack (and if it had, then West' s actions were unnecessary).
None of Hamoodi' s other info bore fruit. One arrest for possession of two rifles. No plans, maps, no conspiracy.

Therefore, since the only thing to suggest an attack (besides just being in Iraq) was the claim of a man who had just been beaten, had a pistol fired right next to him and was told he would be killed UN less he talked.

The facts support that the Iraqi policeman talked. An attack that was to take place did not.
I was a professional in the intelligence field. I think you give "intel" way too much credit.

 

[Misterveritis]

You really don't understand analogies, do you? I'll break it down: If it is claimed that something will happen, and then it doesn't, was it prevented from happening or was it never going to happen? In the case of the ambush West claims was thwarted, there is no evidence that any ambush was actually planned. And Hamoodi claims he made up everything because he was told he would be killed if he didn't talk. So the only evidence that there was a planned ambush were the words of a man who was told to talk or die. Nothing he said after West's interrogation was confirmed.

If you told me there was a roadside bomb and an attack intended to kill a battalion commander positioned on road A and I chose instead to take road B so the attack did not take place....

What is the point? You have it in your mind that West is guilty. And I just now discovered that it really does not matter what you think.

 

[jmotivator]

You really don't understand analogies, do you? I'll break it down: If it is claimed that something will happen, and then it doesn't, was it prevented from happening or was it never going to happen? In the case of the ambush West claims was thwarted, there is no evidence that any ambush was actually planned. And Hamoodi claims he made up everything because he was told he would be killed if he didn't talk. So the only evidence that there was a planned ambush were the words of a man who was told to talk or die. Nothing he said after West's interrogation was confirmed.

Sorry, no, let me point out your jackass analogy to you: In your career risking your life for your fellow Americans you have been awarded a bronze star among your many achievements. You are in the command of 1,000 men in Taji Iraq where you see your men dying every single day to enemy gunfire. You receive word that the barbarians trying to take Taji from you have planned an ambush and in order to send more men home in a jump seat than a body bag in a cargo hold you take the threat seriously. Whether it by by prevention or bad intelligence the ambush doesn't happen,but what matters is your men didn't die.

You then come home to have to listen to snot nosed pissants bitch and moan about what you should have done in that hell hole while second guessing your life and death choices from the comfort of their stain computer chair via their Cheetos crumbed keyboard.

And there you are saying that the absence of an ambush can only mean that it was something akin to a UFO sighting.

You carelessly and disgustingly make light of what the soldiers in the field have to experience and the choices they make every day to keep each other alive. Not one of the men that Lt. Col. West commanded in Taji would side with your ignorant ass on the subject.

 

[pinqy]

The facts support that the Iraqi policeman talked. An attack that was to take place did not.

how do you know an attack was planned? Hamoodi recanted.

I was a professional in the intelligence field. I think you give "intel" way too much credit.

the opposite. I'm not giving much credit to the intel obtained from Hamoodi. You are accepting it as fact despite his later claims that he made it up because he thought his life was in danger.

If you told me there was a roadside bomb and an attack intended to kill a battalion commander positioned on road A and I chose instead to take road B so the attack did not take place....

without checking road A you would not know the reliability of the intel.

What is the point? You have it in your mind that West is guilty. And I just now discovered that it really does not matter what you think.

West confessed his guilt when he accepted the Article 15. There is no question of his guilt

 

[fmw]

but this is disgusting as there is a simple political component.

Are you of the belief that there are things political that are not disgusting?

 

[CRUE CAB]

So because she was wounded, she is above criticism? She voluntarily entered politics. She knew what she was getting into.

 

[Misterveritis]

how do you know an attack was planned? Hamoodi recanted.
the opposite. I'm not giving much credit to the intel obtained from Hamoodi. You are accepting it as fact despite his later claims that he made it up because he thought his life was in danger.

without checking road A you would not know the reliability of the intel.

West confessed his guilt when he accepted the Article 15. There is no question of his guilt

Sure there is. Do you understand railroading?
I wish there was a way to send you back and put you on the road not taken.

 

[pinqy]

Sure there is. Do you understand railroading?
I wish there was a way to send you back and put you on the road not taken.

Wait, you're saying he didn't assault or threaten Hamoodi? That's what he was found guilty of. He's never denied it.