Lunatic West Attacks a Real Hero

[dad2three2001]

Re: Democrats do not want the truth

Your "clarification" shows that you don't understand. I am not surprised.

A select committee has the powers necessary to dog the truth out of this lying administration.

I am not surprised that you do not want the truth.

Truth? lol

13 Benghazis That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without a Peep from Fox News

13 Benghazis That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without a Peep from Fox News | Bob Cesca

IT'S A SCANDAL IT'S A SCANDAL, IT'S A SCANDAL, SCANDAL I TELL YOU,

SCANDAL,SCANDAL,SCANDAL!!!!!!!


No I don't know what, where, when or who but give Issa more time and there will be a scandal, there will be I know Obama did it, I know he did, Fox said so..

 

[nota bene]

You mean those silly enough to believe his garbage, doesn't think he's a lunatic? Weird

ANYONE who doesn't see him or the rest of the TP/GOP (New Koch Brother Bircher Society) as lunatics and extremists need to be put on a 5150 hold


"Section 5150 is a section of the California Welfare and Institutions Code which allows a qualified officer or clinician to involuntarily confine a person suspected to have a mental disorder"

I don't need to be put on a psych hold. But I am curious about your need to make such an extreme remark. The "New Koch Brothers Bircher Society" is what's silly.

 

[Misterveritis]

Allen West Had To Resign From Army To Avoid Court Martial; He's Equally Unfit to Serve in Congress

Retired Army Lt. Col. Allen West--U.S. Congressman and wingnut Tea Party hero many of whom revere as the Anti-Obama--resigned from the Army to avoid being court martialed.



TIKRIT, Iraq (CNN) -- The commanding general of the 4th Infantry Division on Friday accepted a U.S. military investigator's recommendation and ordered administrative action against Lt. Col. Allen West, who was accused of using improper methods to force information out of an Iraqi detainee.

Following a military hearing, West was fined $5,000 over two months, according to West's civillian attorney, Neal Puckett.

The punishment does not affect West's eligibility for retirement and pension, Puckett said in a statement.


Maj. Gen. Raymond Odierno, the 4th Infantry's top general in Tikrit, could have rejected the recommendation and ordered a court martial. If he were to be found guilty at a court martial of the two articles against him, West could have faced 11 years in prison, a military prosecutor told CNN


West said he also threatened to kill Hamoody. Military prosecutors say West followed up on that threat by taking the suspect outside, put him on the ground near a weapons clearing barrel and fired his 9 mm pistol into the barrel.

Allen West Had To Resign From Army To Avoid Court Martial; He's Equally Unfit to Serve in Congress


WHOSE WORD AGAIN?

The enemy's versus a battalion commander.
One cannot retire to avoid a courts-martial. The Daily Kooks just get it wrong. So do you.

 

[dad2three2001]

But not on that road. And that is a shame.

"Yeah. We believe terrorists over battalion commanders, don't we?"


And yet you prefer to accept the word of an enemy over the word of one of our battalion commanders. Awesome.

West did what was appropriate in the situation he found himself in.

And you side with our enemies.

YES THE WORDS OF A 'TERRORIST' THAT WAS WEST


West said he also threatened to kill Hamoody. Military prosecutors say West followed up on that threat by taking the suspect outside, put him on the ground near a weapons clearing barrel and fired his 9 mm pistol into the barrel.

Apparently not knowing where West's gun was aimed, Hamoody cracked and gave information about the planned ambush on West's convoy, thwarting the attack.

West said there were no further ambushes on U.S. forces in Taji until he was relieved of his leadership post on October 4.

"I know the method I used was not right, but I wanted to take care of my soldiers," West testified to a military courtroom of observers and some teary-eyed troops formerly under his command.

Asked if he would have act differently if under similar circumstances again, West testified, "If it's about the lives of my soldiers at stake, I'd go through hell with a gasoline can."


CNN.com - U.S. officer fined for harsh interrogation tactics - Dec. 13, 2003

 

[Misterveritis]

Re: Democrats do not want the truth

Truth? lol

13 Benghazis That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without a Peep from Fox News

13 Benghazis That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without a Peep from Fox News | Bob Cesca

IT'S A SCANDAL IT'S A SCANDAL, IT'S A SCANDAL, SCANDAL I TELL YOU,

SCANDAL,SCANDAL,SCANDAL!!!!!!!


No I don't know what, where, when or who but give Issa more time and there will be a scandal, there will be I know Obama did it, I know he did, Fox said so..

There are plenty of kooks who will give Obama a pass on everything. You give Obama a pass on everything.

 

[dad2three2001]

The enemy's versus a battalion commander.
One cannot retire to avoid a courts-martial. The Daily Kooks just get it wrong. So do you.

Weird

"I know the method I used was not right, but I wanted to take care of my soldiers," West testified to a military courtroom of observers and some teary-eyed troops formerly under his command.

But while West's supporters call him a hero, military prosecutors said his actions amounted to torture and violated articles 128 and 134 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

Prosecutor Capt. Magdalena Pezytulska said West should be tried for assault and for communicating a threat. "This is a case about a man who lost his temper," she argued. "There are consequences for [West's] actions."

When West testified that he had "no malice toward Hamoody" and that he "just wanted information," Pezytulska presented a document of West's typed statement following the August incident. She asked him to read his own written words to the court: "In my anger, I couldn't remember how many shots were fired."

CNN.com - U.S. officer fined for harsh interrogation tactics - Dec. 13, 2003


I GUESS RULES DON'T APPLY IF YOU ARE A RIGHT WINGER?

 

[Misterveritis]

YES THE WORDS OF A 'TERRORIST' THAT WAS WEST


West said he also threatened to kill Hamoody. Military prosecutors say West followed up on that threat by taking the suspect outside, put him on the ground near a weapons clearing barrel and fired his 9 mm pistol into the barrel.

Apparently not knowing where West's gun was aimed, Hamoody cracked and gave information about the planned ambush on West's convoy, thwarting the attack.

West said there were no further ambushes on U.S. forces in Taji until he was relieved of his leadership post on October 4.

"I know the method I used was not right, but I wanted to take care of my soldiers," West testified to a military courtroom of observers and some teary-eyed troops formerly under his command.

Asked if he would have act differently if under similar circumstances again, West testified, "If it's about the lives of my soldiers at stake, I'd go through hell with a gasoline can."


CNN.com - U.S. officer fined for harsh interrogation tactics - Dec. 13, 2003

In other words he did the right thing and deserved a commendation.

he did nothing wrong except save his unit from this particular threat.

 

[Misterveritis]

Weird

"I know the method I used was not right, but I wanted to take care of my soldiers," West testified to a military courtroom of observers and some teary-eyed troops formerly under his command.

But while West's supporters call him a hero, military prosecutors said his actions amounted to torture and violated articles 128 and 134 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

Prosecutor Capt. Magdalena Pezytulska said West should be tried for assault and for communicating a threat. "This is a case about a man who lost his temper," she argued. "There are consequences for [West's] actions."

When West testified that he had "no malice toward Hamoody" and that he "just wanted information," Pezytulska presented a document of West's typed statement following the August incident. She asked him to read his own written words to the court: "In my anger, I couldn't remember how many shots were fired."

CNN.com - U.S. officer fined for harsh interrogation tactics - Dec. 13, 2003


I GUESS RULES DON'T APPLY IF YOU ARE A RIGHT WINGER?

I always wonder why America's enemies are so eager to condemn someone who prevents the deaths and injuries of those under their charge while praising someone who did absolutely nothing to come to the aid of four (or more) Americans.
One was forced out of command for acting.
The other won re-election.

 

[dad2three2001]

Re: Democrats do not want the truth

There are plenty of kooks who will give Obama a pass on everything. You give Obama a pass on everything.

Nope, Obama is the second best Conservative Prez since Ike, only Clinton was better, I'll criticize him for stuff he's REALLY done or failed on, not like the CONservative made up crap

Despite right wing myths, distortions and lies (the only ammo right wingers EVER have), Obama has been conservative on just about everything he's done, in fact keeping the top tax rates lower than Reagan's first 6 years (50%), something most 'liberals' are upset at

It's always funny how Obama is anti capitalist yet Reagan had a higher top rate for his first 6 years AND a higher overall top rate average than Obama...Yet under that 'socialist' top rate of 50%, the economy created over 10 million jobs. How was that possible?

 

[dad2three2001]

I always wonder why America's enemies are so eager to condemn someone who prevents the deaths and injuries of those under their charge while praising someone who did absolutely nothing to come to the aid of four (or more) Americans.
One was forced out of command for acting.
The other won re-election.

Thanks for agreeing West broke the law

 

[dad2three2001]

In other words he did the right thing and deserved a commendation.

he did nothing wrong except save his unit from this particular threat.

Sure, the 'rule of law' you guys 'love' is that way, bend it when you like. Just like Reagan and Iran/Contra right?

 

[Misterveritis]

Re: Democrats do not want the truth

Nope, Obama is the second best Conservative Prez since Ike, only Clinton was better, I'll criticize him for stuff he's REALLY done or failed on, not like the CONservative made up crap

Despite right wing myths, distortions and lies (the only ammo right wingers EVER have), Obama has been conservative on just about everything he's done, in fact keeping the top tax rates lower than Reagan's first 6 years (50%), something most 'liberals' are upset at

It's always funny how Obama is anti capitalist yet Reagan had a higher top rate for his first 6 years AND a higher overall top rate average than Obama...Yet under that 'socialist' top rate of 50%, the economy created over 10 million jobs. How was that possible?

I believe your lips are so firmly planted on his backside you will believe anything.

 

[Misterveritis]

Sure, the 'rule of law' you guys 'love' is that way, bend it when you like. Just like Reagan and Iran/Contra right?

Have you slipped back into bizarro world again. This administration is lawless yet you are a complete, "useful idiot" style supporter. A battalion commander saves the men under his command from an attack and you want to harm him in every way possible.

You support the one whose lawlessness has done great harm to the nation.
You condemn the one whose actions saved lives.

 

[clownboy]

Sure, the 'rule of law' you guys 'love' is that way, bend it when you like. Just like Reagan and Iran/Contra right?

Funny how those who like to invoke the rule of law as a flail against those who believe in following the law do so only when it serves them, but roundly dismiss it when it doesn't (as in most of the time). The rule of law was served here. However there is a bit more to the story, the part folks with your bent are eager to ignore.

 

[dad2three2001]

I don't need to be put on a psych hold. But I am curious about your need to make such an extreme remark. The "New Koch Brothers Bircher Society" is what's silly.

Sure it is, sure

Final Proof The Tea Party Was Founded As A Bogus AstroTurf Movement


The Koch-founded-and-run Citizens for a Sound Economy (shown there as running this "Tea Party") subsequently divided itself into two parts: FreedomWorks, and Americans For Prosperity. Both parts ardently pushed the Tea Party "movement" (which didn't yet exist).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-zuesse/final-proof-the-tea-party_b_4136722.html

THEIR DADDY STARTED THE JOHN BIRCH SOCIETY...

 

[dad2three2001]

Funny how those who like to invoke the rule of law as a flail against those who believe in following the law do so only when it serves them, but roundly dismiss it when it doesn't (as in most of the time). The rule of law was served here. However there is a bit more to the story, the part folks with your bent are eager to ignore.

In other words your entire comment was nothing? Thanks *shaking head*

 

[dad2three2001]

Have you slipped back into bizarro world again. This administration is lawless yet you are a complete, "useful idiot" style supporter. A battalion commander saves the men under his command from an attack and you want to harm him in every way possible.

You support the one whose lawlessness has done great harm to the nation.
You condemn the one whose actions saved lives.

Ah, the usual CONservative posit. Create a false premise

"saves the men under his command from an attack"

and argue from said false premise. Got it

I know, that 'rule of law' you guys LOVE to trumpet ALWAYS falls to the wayside when it's expedient for right wingers

 

[dad2three2001]

In other words he did the right thing and deserved a commendation.

he did nothing wrong except save his unit from this particular threat.

Which threat was that? Oh right. none. Just an EXCUSE after the fact for bad behavior, I'm shocked, no really I am....

 

[clownboy]

In other words your entire comment was nothing? Thanks *shaking head*

The pseudo lack of comprehension isn't helping your argument.

 

[dad2three2001]

Re: Democrats do not want the truth

I believe your lips are so firmly planted on his backside you will believe anything.

Nah, even though I voted for Reagan, twice, I actually hate the guy today. You see I educated myself. Grew up...

CONservatives are BAD for the country, and the GOP hasn't had a single idea that helped the majority of the nation since before Reagan...

 

[dad2three2001]

The pseudo lack of comprehension isn't helping your argument.

Nope, didn't lack comprehension, just MORE right wing noise with zero substance. Shocking I know...

 

[clownboy]

Ah, the usual CONservative posit. Create a false premise

"saves the men under his command from an attack"

and argue from said false premise. Got it

I know, that 'rule of law' you guys LOVE to trumpet ALWAYS falls to the wayside when it's expedient for right wingers

Again you falsely use the inane "but you guys like to follow the rule of law!" gambit. It's not working for you. The rule of law was followed here. West got dinged. However, his reasons for breaking said law were sound. He still faced the consequences. Something folks with your bent seem highly allergic to.

 

[Mycroft]

Does anyone understand this?

Yeah...I understand it. He's playing the race card.

Ho-hum.

 

[dad2three2001]

Again you falsely use the inane "but you guys like to follow the rule of law!" gambit. It's not working for you. The rule of law was followed here. West got dinged. However, his reasons for breaking said law were sound. He still faced the consequences. Something folks with your bent seem highly allergic to.

IF West got dinged, how did HE follow the law? Logic, try it

Oh right, in CONservative worlld, as long as there are reasons for breaking the law, it's considered acceptable. Like Reagan and Iran/Contra....

 

[dad2three2001]

Yeah...I understand it. He's playing the race card.

Ho-hum.

lol? How, I'm sure the CONservatives got upset at Bush, the white Prez for running up the debt pre Obama right? I'm sure there were protests and TP movements EVERYWHERE while he was invading Iraq on FALSE PTREMISES while NOT funding it from the right correct?