loving guns more than children

[calamity]

Here's an interesting op-ed to chew on.

Do we love our guns more than our children?

Not everywhere is like this. Last year, my family and I left the US to spend time in Northern Ireland, a place not historically known for its peace. As we enrolled my son for school in downtown Belfast, he asked the school principal to describe the school drills. She looked a bit puzzled. She told him about the fire drill. And he asked her "do you have unsafe person drills"?

As he asked us, all of our faces crumpled. "No, love," she said. "No, we do not." And: they don't. Like other developed countries, like most other countries, period, they don't now expect that people might come into their schools and shoot their children.

Yes, folks. Europe has something we do not. Sanity. And, the key to our insanity is made of steel and was designed to spit out lead.

 

[jamesrage]

Here's an interesting op-ed to chew on.

Do we love our guns more than our children?



Yes, folks. Europe has something we do not. Sanity. And, the key to our insanity is made of steel and was designed to spit out lead.

I find it amusing how anti-2nd amendment trash tell us that no one wants to ban guns, no one wants to take your guns away, the NRA/gun owners are just paranoid or some other similar nonsense. While at the same time these same anti-2nd amendment trash are praising the countries that have enacted severe restrictions and or bans on civilian firearms.

 

[TurtleDude]

Here's an interesting op-ed to chew on.

Do we love our guns more than our children?


Yes, folks. Europe has something we do not. Sanity. And, the key to our insanity is made of steel and was designed to spit out lead.

troll bait-no one "loves guns"

 

[Chillfolks]

Because I love children I enjoy teaching them how to use guns correctly. The excitement when a kid gets their first bullseye can be life changing and a confidence builder.

 

[CLAX1911]

This is a standard false cause fallacy.

If you don't agree with me then you must hate (insert anything here)

We see this a lot with all sorts of things. if you disagree with affirmative action it means you hate black people or if you disagree with Islamic teachings then it must mean you hate Muslims. if you disagree with feminists it means you hate women so on so on so on.

Considering the op I'm not surprised such a lazy brain-dead tactic is being used.

 

[apdst]

Here's an interesting op-ed to chew on.

Do we love our guns more than our children?



Yes, folks. Europe has something we do not. Sanity. And, the key to our insanity is made of steel and was designed to spit out lead.

Are you moving soon?

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Here's an interesting op-ed to chew on.

Do we love our guns more than our children?

Yes, folks. Europe has something we do not. Sanity. And, the key to our insanity is made of steel and was designed to spit out lead.

Tasted gross, like socialism. Spit it out.

 

[Rucker61]

Here's an interesting op-ed to chew on.

Do we love our guns more than our children?



Yes, folks. Europe has something we do not. Sanity. And, the key to our insanity is made of steel and was designed to spit out lead.

"Gun laws in Northern Ireland are primarily affected by the Firearms (Northern Ireland) Order 2004. Under the new law, first-time buyers will be required to demonstrate they can be trusted with the firearm. It will be up to firearms dealers selling the products to tell new buyers, and those upgrading their firearms, about the safety procedures. Firearm possessors in Northern Ireland must not transport their firearms to Great Britain. All gun owners in Northern Ireland are required to apply for a Firearm Certificate to possess firearms. Permits are normally issued to anyone who has good reason to possess firearms, such as target shooting, hunting, and personal protection.[57] Northern Ireland is the only part of the United Kingdom where personal protection is accepted as a legitimate reason to obtain and own a firearm and is the only part where handguns are permitted. Semi-automatic rifles are only permitted when chambered in .22 calibre (with certain exceptions). Handguns and Shotguns are permitted in any calibre. There is no limit on magazine capacity for rifles and handguns, and the magazine limit for shotguns is 2 rounds. In the countryside, people will often open carry loaded rifles and shotguns.[56] A firearm certificate for a personal protection weapon will only be authorised where the Police Service of Northern Ireland deems there is a ‘verifiable specific risk’ to the life of an individual and that the possession of a firearm is a reasonable, proportionate and necessary measure to protect their life.[58] Permits for personal protection also allow the holder to carry their firearms concealed."

Why does Northern Ireland have weaker laws than California and 1/5 the homicide rate of California?

 

[Bullseye]

Here's an interesting op-ed to chew on.

Do we love our guns more than our children?



Yes, folks. Europe has something we do not. Sanity. And, the key to our insanity is made of steel and was designed to spit out lead.

Did you post this a year ago when it first ran?

 

[Bullseye]

Because I love children I enjoy teaching them how to use guns correctly. The excitement when a kid gets their first bullseye can be life changing and a confidence builder.

Hey, hey, hey . . . no "hitting" bullseyes. :lamo

 

[joko104]

A more accurate title would be "Hating guns more than loving children."

A "gun free" sign has yet to save one child's life. Guns have saved thousands.

 

[calamity]

A more accurate title would be "Hating guns more than loving children."

A "gun free" sign has yet to save one child's life. Guns have saved thousands.

lol...guns take away almost 40,000 lives a year.

Note the uptick since the Rightie nuts on SCOTUS removed all the restrictions.

 

[Fishking]

Here's an interesting op-ed to chew on.

Do we love our guns more than our children?



Yes, folks. Europe has something we do not. Sanity. And, the key to our insanity is made of steel and was designed to spit out lead.

You know what Europe has also had? Multiple tyrannical governments and an actual increase in gun crimes so....

 

[Winchester]

Here's an interesting op-ed to chew on.

Do we love our guns more than our children?



Yes, folks. Europe has something we do not. Sanity. And, the key to our insanity is made of steel and was designed to spit out lead.

Sometimes ignorance is bliss. The key to our collective insanity is the constant fear mongering (and not just about guns). Risks are blown way, way out of proportion and our government keeps the fear ratched up as we are easier to control that way. Media keeps it ratched up because it engages people and sells advertising. Hell the NRA/gun manufacturers do because it sells more guns. Been happening a long time. It ain't good for us.

 

[Winchester]

lol...guns take away almost 40,000 lives a year.

Note the uptick since the Rightie nuts on SCOTUS removed all the restrictions.

So the question is why are people killing themselves and what can we do about it?

As far as the homicides, 50% are young men, the next highest portion of homicides are domestic violence related. So the questions we should be asking ourselves regarding homicides, wtf are the root causes of violence with young men and domestic violence and what are the best ways to address those problems.

Really interesting interactive graphic at FiveThirtyEight if you are interested.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/gun-deaths/

 

[calamity]

You know what Europe has also had? Multiple tyrannical governments and an actual increase in gun crimes so....

The graph in post 12 shows a nice uptick in gun crimes. And guess what. It ain’t in Europe.

 

[CLAX1911]

So the question is why are people killing themselves and what can we do about it?

As far as the homicides, 50% are young men, the next highest portion of homicides are domestic violence related. So the questions we should be asking ourselves regarding homicides, wtf are the root causes of violence with young men and domestic violence and what are the best ways to address those problems.

Really interesting interactive graphic at FiveThirtyEight if you are interested.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/gun-deaths/

We don't discuss solving problems in this forum. Restrictions on ownership isn't about solving problems it's about pissing off the opposition. Nothing more

 

[Rucker61]

The graph in post 12 shows a nice uptick in gun crimes. And guess what. It ain’t in Europe.

That's a chart of raw data, ignoring the increase in population. A more accurate chart would show a homicide rate per 100k population, which admittedly would still show an increase in rate in the last few years. What changed that instigated an increase in the homicide rate starting in 2015?

 

[calamity]

That's a chart of raw data, ignoring the increase in population. A more accurate chart would show a homicide rate per 100k population, which admittedly would still show an increase in rate in the last few years. What changed that instigated an increase in the homicide rate starting in 2015?

Republicans took over both Houses in Congress.

 

[VanceMack]

The same ****ing idiots like the writer of the op-ed piece that would use the emotional of ban guns...for the chirruns!!! are the same ****ing morons that screech about the right to slaughter 800,000 thousand of them a year in the name of convenience. So of course...they should feel free to go **** themselves.

Love of children and love of freedom and Constitutional rights are not in conflict.

 

[TurtleDude]

The graph in post 12 shows a nice uptick in gun crimes. And guess what. It ain’t in Europe.

there we have it-he's happy that there is an uptick so he can use it to troll lawful gun owners who really have little to do with that

 

[Rucker61]

Republicans took over both Houses in Congress.

Establish the causal effect of Republicans taking over both Houses in an uptick in homicides.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Republicans took over both Houses in Congress.

How, exactly, did that cause an increase of homicide rates in big blue cities?

 

[TurtleDude]

How, exactly, did that cause an increase of homicide rates in big blue cities?

He's trolling but I have actually heard left-wingers claim that GOP control of government causes more "social injustice" and "hopelessness" among those in the bottom of the economy and this causes them to engage in crime

 

[Common Sense 1]

Here's an interesting op-ed to chew on.

Do we love our guns more than our children?



Yes, folks. Europe has something we do not. Sanity. And, the key to our insanity is made of steel and was designed to spit out lead.

Gun Use Surges in Europe, Where Firearms Are Rare

https://www.wsj.com/articles/gun-use-surges-in-europe-where-firearms-are-rare-11546857000

When hundreds of women were sexually assaulted on New Year’s Eve in several German cities three years ago, Carolin Matthie decided it was time to defend herself. The 26-year-old Berlin student quickly applied for a gun permit, fearing many women would have the same idea and flood the application process.

“If I don’t do it now, I will have to wait maybe another half year,” she recalls thinking.

Gun ownership is rising across Europe, a continent that until recently faced far less gun crime and violence than much of the globe. Not long ago it was rare to see armed British police.

The uptick was spurred in part by insecurity arising from terrorist attacks—many with firearms, and reflects government efforts to get illegal guns registered by offering amnesty to owners.


The gun-range owner questions the impact of that policy. “With each terror attack, the legislation gets stricter,” he said. “For the black market, everything stays the same.”