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According to post 79 taken from the interviews, the USPP wouldn't have intervened if they were peacefully protesting. They were acting to protect federal property and personnel and that is well within their mandate.The USPP didn't have the legal authority to deny US citizens their right to peacefully protest...and the report basically admits as much when it says the commander did not consider waiting until the 7pm curfew or notify the protesters before hand.
The USPP lied about using tear gas, too. If they lied about that then what else did they lie about?You do understand that there are limits to peacefully protesting, right? Even this report (that you did not read, don't lie) concludes that "the USPP had the authority and discretion to clear Lafayette Park and the surrounding areas on June 1."
Stop spinning. They had the authority to disperse the protest. They didn’t do that so Trump could take a photo. Can you just stop please? There are probably a million reasons you hate Trump. Now you only have 999,999. I’m so sorry for your less. Thoughts and prayers are with you during this difficult time.The USPP lied about using tear gas, too. If they lied about that then what else did they lie about?
US Park Police spokesperson said it was a mistake to deny using tear gas. The acting chief then again denied using tear gas.
A spokesperson for the US Park Police said Friday afternoon that the department had made a mistake by denying use of tear gas to clear peaceful protesters from a public park outside the White House earlier this week. Not long after, the department's acting chief once again denied using tear gas.www.cnn.com
And there's this....
"....The Park Police incident commander was reportedly stunned when Barr informed him of Trump's impending visit.[19] That report also confirmed the use of pepperballs and tear gas, revealed Park Police did not request deployment of Bureau of Prisons to the park, and reported that U.S. Secret Service had inexplicably deployed ahead of schedule, advancing on protesters before the Park Police had a chance to warn protesters to disperse.[20][21].[22]..."
Looks like the police don't have the authority not to identify themselves anymore.
Everything I've read, including the report said the USPP planned to put up barriers...but I guess they didn't plan on the Secret Service, the Bureau of Prison Police and the DC Guard advancing on the protesters without warning....but they certainly knew about it and why.....According to post 79 taken from the interviews, the USPP wouldn't have intervened if they were peacefully protesting. They were acting to protect federal property and personnel and that is well within their mandate.
Secondly, they had what they called a sound amplifying device---either a bullhorn or PA system of some sort. So the protestors were warned. Considering they ignored the curfew from the night before, I don't think the protestors paid any heed whatsoever to warnings.
From what I gather the USPP likely intended to wait until curfew to clear the park...but Barr insisted they do it sooner....Stop spinning. They had the authority to disperse the protest. They didn’t do that so Trump could take a photo. Can you just stop please? There are probably a million reasons you hate Trump. Now you only have 999,999. I’m so sorry for your less. Thoughts and prayers are with you during this difficult time.
Stop spinning. They had the authority to disperse the protest. They didn’t do that so Trump could take a photo. Can you just stop please? There are probably a million reasons you hate Trump. Now you only have 999,999. I’m so sorry for your less. Thoughts and prayers are with you during this difficult time.
So you believe that facts you don't agree with are conspiracy theories... well, If that makes you feel g
Phys251: FORGETS THE OTHER MULTIPLE ERRORS.
At this point its barely T-ball.
It's not that he's always right. It's that he's NOT always wrong.
Those damn IGs lying to protect Trump. Biden better be firing some people ASAP.Your blind adoration of Trump and bullying isn't going to change the fact that the park was in fact cleared for Trump's photo op. Just ask Barr, the Joint Chief of Staff, Gen. Miley, the DC Police and the Secret Service...they were all there.
Just so you're aware, the Wikipedia page you link to may have some cherrypicked facts. While the full report (here) does contain the anecdote at the 6:10 timeline but it also contains the following from the same section as the 6:10 anecdote (page 18 of the PDF) -Everything I've read, including the report said the USPP planned to put up barriers...but I guess they didn't plan on the Secret Service, the Bureau of Prison Police and the DC Guard advancing on the protesters without warning....but they certainly knew about it and why.....
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So tell me again how the park wasn't cleared for Trump's photo op?
Your post, intentional or not, is a prime example of how propaganda works. In this case there were certain facts presented while other facts were omitted and no mention that there even might be more information was proffered. It's kind of like writing that the police shot a 14 year old boy after he stole a candy bar. If the whole story is that the 14 year old went into the store, smashed the 85 year old proprietor over the head with a baseball bat, sexually assaulted her, stole a candy bar on his way out, was confronted by a cop that was called to the scene, fled from the cop, hid around a corner and hit the cop with the baseball bat and then got shot by the cop's partner then you left out some context with your otherwise factual commentary on the situation.Both the USPP incident commander and the USPP operations commander told us the USPP initiated the operational plan before the Attorney General arrived in Lafayette Park and that the Attorney General’s presence in the park had no influence on the USPP’s timeline for the operation. The USPP incident commander explained the USPP wanted to clear the area “as early as possible and [as] safely as we c[ould]” to erect the fence and de-escalate the situation. He added that the Attorney General was “not in his chain of command” and that clearing the park had “nothing to do with [him] or the President wanting to come out.” He stated, “This plan doesn’t get developed in 2 minutes . . . [The Attorney General] might be a very important guy in the Government, he’s just not my boss.
Meanwhile, he proclaims a 200-strikeout, 35-error first baseman (the Daily Caller), a Hall of Famer.All-Star baseball player: Commits one error
Grim17: SEND HIM BACK TO THE MINORS! WORST PLAYER EVER!
Meanwhile, he proclaims a 200-strikeout, 35-error first baseman (the Daily Caller), a Hall of Famer.
As I remember, it was supposed to appeal to both law and order and to the religious right. The problem was that Trump has no idea what's in the Bible. He can't quote anything from memory. He doesn't know how to look up passages that he knows are in there but can't remember, because he doesn't know that much either. Just holding up the book doesn't work, even right side up, if there are no words to go with it. That's why he looked like a dork holding a book and the whole thing flopped.I’m thinking the OP and others needed a Kleenex when Trump silently hoisted his favorite book in the air.
I’m still unclear regarding the message he was trying to send.....
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Oooooh, two errors! No, five!
I'm sure you place a high value on your hatred for the freedom for the press.
Wrong, I place a high value on press that goes after the truth no matter who looks bad.
Now they protect the Democrats like they are their personal PR firm.
I'll buy the Trump appointed Inspector General's take once someone explains to me how IF Trump did not know the Square would be cleared in short order, he announced he would be walking through the square to the church 30 minutes before it was tear gassed? Did he think he would be greeted as an honored guest? Did the Secret Service give the go ahead for him to walk unaccompanied (except for Ivanka and a bible) through a protest zone? This story sounds as crazy as any yet.Another day, another example of the BS propaganda the mainstream news media has now become famous for. This particular lie was pushed by outlets such as the NY Times, NBC, NPR and others... and let's not forget the kings of misinformation and political propaganda, CNN, who pushed this false story far more than any other media outlet did.
Here's the story from the Daily Caller:
Like I Keep telling you, I don't have sigs set to be seen, its just people looking to make more digs instead of valid points, which describes you perfectly. Keyboard emoji warriors usually are.
See my sig #2.
Is the posting of blatantly false information allowed on this site? I know there's a conspiracy theory forum, perhaps you should spend your time there.
I'll buy the Trump appointed Inspector General's take once someone explains to me how IF Trump did not know the Square would be cleared in short order, he announced he would be walking through the square to the church 30 minutes before it was tear gassed? Did he think he would be greeted as an honored guest? Did the Secret Service give the go ahead for him to walk unaccompanied (except for Ivanka and a bible) through a protest zone? This story sounds as crazy as any yet.
I’m thinking the OP and others needed a Kleenex when Trump silently hoisted his favorite book in the air.
I’m still unclear regarding the message he was trying to send.....
Sure looks like they cleared the park for Trump's photo op to me.
I haven't made a final determination of the IG's veracity yet. There's lots of dots to connect with his story. Do you have an answer to my question of why Trump was planning to walk through the square, since he had NO knowledge that it would be cleared of protesters, and the curfew was AFTER his planned visit?Let me guess... You think the IG is a Trump toady who's report is a giant cover-up filled with lies?
I'll believe that when members of the USPP and/or the DC police come forward and publicly contradict the report... Since Trump is gone and Biden is now the president, coming forward poses absolutely no risk to any of them.
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