LA immigration protests live updates: 700 Marines deployed to Los Angeles

[stealthycat]

 

[Jagged]

You omit, or chose to ignore, several very important points. Those Capital police knew that every single elected federal representative as well as the current VP and VP elect were in the chamber. They also knew there had been chants to kill Pence. They also knew that there had been considerable violence during the breach. What they did not know is if those smashing their way into the building were armed or not. They acted to protect those they took an oath to protect......as they should.

You're talking to someone so oblivious, he/she didn't even know police had built a barricade on the Speaker's Lobby side of those doors.

 

[Atomic Kid]

Her side was clear. Little Ashli was the only one who could fit through small space.





Got it - protest against democrats - die.

So you would agree that the NG should peel off a woman from the insurrection, and execute them in the same manner? The NG should use any means to protect the members of ICE against an advancing angry mob.

The left gets tangled in the web of their own hypocrisy.

She was engaging in an act of domestic terrorism. As far as you're concerned, only MAGA people have 1st Amendment rights.

 

[Bonnot]

These people justifying all this bullshit are the same fragile ass people that shit their pants over covid masking being enforced or the lock downs happening to avoid mass sickness and death lol.

IDK why most of you interact with these people living in a totally different world than the rest of normal people. They're out to lunch and not worth engaging in.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

absolutely irrelevant

You’re the one carrying on about all of the violence supposedly being committed by illegal migrants.

ICE is deporting people - its what ICE has always done

Not in the fashion that Traitor Trump is forcing.

remember Biden deported far far more people than Trump has, right?

Yep, Biden deported more illegal migrants, and he did it without raiding public schools, kicking out children undergoing lifesaving therapy, or harmless wheelchair bound near senior citizens with American parentage, living in the United States for most of their lives.

its only because of liberals hating Trump that there is a problem, and LA burning is 100% because of illegally here people

Really stupid assertion, even coming from you.

The anger isn’t based on the person directing the actions. The anger being directed towards Traitor Trump and his MAGAt administration officials is based on their Nazi-like tactics used to enforce immigration laws, often falling well outside the boundaries of our Constitution.

 

[Along Came Jones]

This is on a whole new level. We actually have government vs government now. We have citizens confronting the US military. We have a President who's made some very dangerous off hand comments and believes he has the power of a King. People still may call us a democracy but I'm afraid that's developing in to a new meaning for some.

That said, I hope your feelings are correct.

With respect to the U.S. military confronting civilians, we've weathered worse.

In 1932 General Douglas MacArthur led 600-800 troops (with another 2,700 or so held in reserve) to clear several thousand WW! veterans from their downtown camps. The "Bonus Army" veterans were forced out by infantry, mounted calvary, and five or six Five Renault tanks. The clearing force included a future president, Dwight D. Eisenhower.

The following copy and paste from the Veterans Administration briefly describes the event and the result. Pay particular attention to the concluding three sentences. They might apply to the 2026 midterms and the 2028 elections. (Oh, and indeed, I too hope I'm right.)

Fearful that the demonstrations would turn violent, Hoover and the District of Columbia Commissioners on July 28 ordered the police to remove the marchers from their downtown camps. Following a skirmish that left two marchers dead and three policemen injured, Hoover made the fateful decision to send in the Army to restore order. Later in the day, six hundred soldiers, some mounted on horseback, and six light tanks under the command of General Douglas MacArthur moved against the Veterans. The troops on foot threw tear gas grenades and the makeshift shantytowns on both sides of the river went up in flames. The Bonus Marchers dispersed and by July 30 the city had been cleared of their presence.

In his official report, MacArthur praised his men for their discipline and avoidance of civilian fatalities. But the events of July 28, splashed across the front pages of the nation’s newspapers and shown in movie theater newsreels for weeks afterwards, prompted a swift backlash. The Army was booed and Hoover excoriated for his heartless treatment of the Bonus Army protesters. When he heard what had happened, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, the Democratic candidate for president in 1932, reportedly remarked, “Well, this elects me.” In fact, Roosevelt did handily defeat Hoover in November. -- Object 21: Bonus Army, Veterans Administration

 

[CaughtInThe]

You posted about an ICE raid in NEBRASKA, not California. There have been multiple posters here who stated that President Trump is using ICE to “punish” states that voted against him. Thank you for proving those poster wrong.

Well that argument certainly doesn't help all the Republican business owners, like farmers, that Trump is currently crushing.

 

[Nickyjo]

if they're here illegally - deport them, they're illegally here

I don't care what country they're from

Unless given an opportunity to apply for asylum, that would violate the law and Senate-ratified treaties.

 

[Jagged]

"Just so we are also clear, every single person who crossed the border illegally, definitionally is a criminal because they committed a crime."

Just so we are crystal clear, by definition, Trump is a criminal because he committed a crime. And unlike the vast majority of undocumented immigrants, he benefited from due process and was convicted in a court of law. And since you voted for a criminal to be president of the United States, why should anyone give a **** what you think about deporting illegal aliens given you clearly don't give a shit that criminals you like, commit crimes?

 

[stealthycat]

You’re the one carrying on about all of the violence supposedly being committed by illegal migrants.

violence committed by illegally here people ARE 100% committed by illegally here people

Not in the fashion that Traitor Trump is forcing.

true - Trump is actually DOING it

Yep, Biden deported more illegal migrants, and he did it without raiding public schools, kicking out children undergoing lifesaving therapy, or harmless wheelchair bound near senior citizens with American parentage, living in the United States for most of their lives.

oh wow, you're REALLY into lying liberal media reports ... wow

Really stupid assertion, even coming from you.

you think that if there were no illegally here people, which would mean ICE wouldn't have to arrest illegals .... that LA would be rioting/looting/protesting ?

you think LA still would be ? what for ?

The anger isn’t based on the person directing the actions. The anger being directed towards Traitor Trump and his MAGAt administration officials is based on their Nazi-like tactics used to enforce immigration laws, often falling well outside the boundaries of our Constitution.

there you go, the truth

illegally here people are protesting USA laws, burning our flag, torching cars, attacking police, looting the country they came to illegally and they do NOT want to go back to the country they're proudly waving the flags of

you literally just explained it - its about enforcing laws, and illegals don't want that ........... is there ANY better reasons/examples for deportations than the violence you see right now in LA ?

 

[stealthycat]

"Just so we are also clear, every single person who crossed the border illegally, definitionally is a criminal because they committed a crime."

Just so we are crystal clear, by definition, Trump is a criminal because he committed a crime. And unlike the vast majority of undocumented immigrants, he benefited from due process and was convicted in a court of law. And since you voted for a criminal to be president of the United States, why should anyone give a **** what you think about deporting illegal aliens given you clearly don't give a shit that criminals you like, commit crimes?

Trump crossed the border illegally ?

 

[TangoNoCash]

how do you see a large population of people who shouldn't be here, hating this country/burning its flags, rioting and looting ..... and yet also waving the flags of the country they left and don't want to go back to

explain that please

It's pretty simple really. You completely demonize this entire group of people based on right wing lies and propaganda. They push a narrative that these people are not human anymore and are just animals. I see most of them as hard working non criminals who fled countries we completely screwed up with our nation building and drug wars to do jobs Americans refuse to do. If I still lived in LA still I would be attending the protests in some fashion. That doesn't make me here illegally, hate my country, riot or loot. It means I feel it's important to stand up for the unprivileged when the government unfairly targets and harasses working law abiding people. If they wanna target people with violent criminal records have at it. We both know that's not what's happening. It's not really my fault you can't comprehend how that would upset people. This country is a nation of immigrants. Deal with it.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

violence committed by illegally here people ARE 100% committed by illegally here people

Why is it that Traitor Trump and his MAGAt cult followers are far, far more concerned with crime committed by a minority illegal migrant population than much greater amount of crimes committed by native born American citizen population?

true - Trump is actually DOING it

Traitor Trump is certainly DOING it.

oh wow, you're REALLY into lying liberal media reports ... wow

Denying the truth of my post? How much are you willing to wager (winner donates to DP) that I posted any lies?

you think that if there were no illegally here people, which would mean ICE wouldn't have to arrest illegals .... that LA would be rioting/looting/protesting ?

Profoundly stupid comment.

illegally here people are protesting USA laws, burning our flag, torching cars, attacking police, looting the country they came to illegally and they do NOT want to go back to the country they're proudly waving the flags of

Are you really so obtuse as to believe the people protesting are all illegal migrants?

you literally just explained it - its about enforcing laws, and illegals don't want that ........... is there ANY better reasons/examples for deportations than the violence you see right now in LA ?

In the Traitor Trump administration it’s never as simple as “just enforcing laws”. It’s always a show of authoritarianism and sticking it to the libs.

A genuine ****ing disgrace.

Half of the civilized world are laughing at us, and the other half are shaking their heads in disbelief over how badly our representative democracy has declined, and folks like Putin and Un are laughing their asses off!

 

[Ikari]

so now you don't want to address how my side cares - you want to make crazy accusations BECAUSE we care

your side doesn't care - that's the truth isn't it ? Kill the unborns,human traffic over poverty level/unskilled/unedcuated people that you can take advantage of with slave type wages and outside USA labor laws ....

clear who cares and who doesn't

I addressed how your side "cares". You don't. You scream banal platitudes pretending you "care", but you don't care at all. It's whatever makes your propaganda at the moment you will use.

 

[NWRatCon]

You're talking to someone so oblivious, he/she didn't even know police had built a barricade on the Speaker's Lobby side of those doors.

Or simply willing to promote any convenient lie with malice aforethought.

 

[NWRatCon]

Unless given an opportunity to apply for asylum, that would violate the law and Senate-ratified treaties.

Such insignificant considerations... like the Constitution.

 

[stealthycat]

It's pretty simple really. You completely demonize this entire group of people based on right wing lies and propaganda.

they're here illegally by their own choices - THEY CAME HERE ILLEGALLY (or stayed illegally) ..... I didn't do that, THEY did that. Bill Clinton and Obama and even Hillary were right on illegally here people

They push a narrative that these people are not human anymore and are just animals.

nobody has said that - though some do behave like zoo animals don't they ?

I see most of them as hard working non criminals who fled countries we completely screwed up with our nation building and drug wars to do jobs Americans refuse to do.

you're ok with them breaking ever law they needed to and getting here and being here - I'm not and, the employers who hire them? breaking laws, and they're driving without insurance breaking laws and not paying taxes breaking laws .... as for "American's refuse to do it" that's left wing propaganda and lies. next you'll say they're here for asylum lol

If I still lived in LA still I would be attending the protests in some fashion.

if I still live in Irvine I'd not be caught anywhere near the looting/rioting/violence

That doesn't make me here illegally, hate my country, riot or loot.

if you're protesting to protect illegally here people I disagree - they're looting/rioting/burning American flags ... that's YOUR country you're abandoning

It means I feel it's important to stand up for the unprivileged

standing up for illegally here people who broke laws and abused our system to get here/stay here - call it what it is

when the government unfairly targets and harasses working law abiding people. If they wanna target people with violent criminal records have at it. We both know that's not what's happening. It's not really my fault you can't comprehend how that would upset people. This country is a nation of immigrants. Deal with it.

these people are not here thanks to Trump and the USA is safer - agreed ? we dont know who are and who are not criminals - and certainly 4 years of Biden added to the problem and where were liberals crying then ? This is a country of immigrant, yes

all these people are not US citizens

News Releases and Statements

www.ice.gov

 

[Bergslagstroll]

Arkansas has double the murder of California?

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California of course, leads the nation in the number of murders. Arkansas isn't even in the top half.

Murders in the U.S. by state 2023| Statista

California reported the largest number of homicides to the FBI in 2023, at 1,929 for the year.

www.statista.com

Yes per capita. That Republicans states could learn from California and New York.

List of U.S. states by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

While if you want to create a safer society you also need to focus on other major causes of fatalities. Like for example traffic.

U.S. road deaths far outnumber those in Europe. Why?

On a per capita basis, there are nine times as many road deaths in Wyoming as in Ireland. What is going on?

bigthink.com

While Republican politicians and right wing media are instead focus on fear mongering, lies and creating a strong we against them.

 

[stealthycat]

Why is it that Traitor Trump and his MAGAt cult followers are far, far more concerned with crime committed by a minority illegal migrant population than much greater amount of crimes committed by native born American citizen population?

I don't know about "more concerned" but citizens of the USA have a right to be here. People who chose to come here illegally are not supposed to be here

If a person comes into your house one night and you didn't invite them ... do they have every right to be there like you? No - they need removed, they're not supposed to be there. Can you just go walk into a public school and walk around? No, you have to be invited/badges in etc. Many places are like that. The USA has borders and immigration laws for a reason - and all these illegally here people walk right through them

Denying the truth of my post? How much are you willing to wager (winner donates to DP) that I posted any lies?

you're repeating liberal media lies - I'm sorry, you are

Profoundly stupid comment.

its 100% truth and fact

Are you really so obtuse as to believe the people protesting are all illegal migrants?

oh a great many of them are yes - absolutely

Half of the civilized world are laughing at us, and the other half are shaking their heads in disbelief over how badly our representative democracy has declined, and folks like Putin and Un are laughing their asses off!

most countries that have a problem with illegals pouring in know EXACTLY what the USA is having to deal with

I've long said we need a train - a railway - from the southern border to Canada and drop millions of illegals into it

CAN would shut that down in 1 day - no WAY they'd allow millions pouring in illegally. No country does that

 

[stealthycat]

I addressed how your side "cares". You don't. You scream banal platitudes pretending you "care", but you don't care at all. It's whatever makes your propaganda at the moment you will use.

you see exactly my points - liberals don't care about unborn babies, US citizens, or the slave-workers they'd abusing with illegally here people

that's the truth -

 

[TangoNoCash]

they're here illegally by their own choices - THEY CAME HERE ILLEGALLY (or stayed illegally) ..... I didn't do that, THEY did that. Bill Clinton and Obama and even Hillary were right on illegally here people


nobody has said that - though some do behave like zoo animals don't they ?



you're ok with them breaking ever law they needed to and getting here and being here - I'm not and, the employers who hire them? breaking laws, and they're driving without insurance breaking laws and not paying taxes breaking laws .... as for "American's refuse to do it" that's left wing propaganda and lies. next you'll say they're here for asylum lol



if I still live in Irvine I'd not be caught anywhere near the looting/rioting/violence



if you're protesting to protect illegally here people I disagree - they're looting/rioting/burning American flags ... that's YOUR country you're abandoning



standing up for illegally here people who broke laws and abused our system to get here/stay here - call it what it is




these people are not here thanks to Trump and the USA is safer - agreed ? we dont know who are and who are not criminals - and certainly 4 years of Biden added to the problem and where were liberals crying then ? This is a country of immigrant, yes

all these people are not US citizens

News Releases and Statements

www.ice.gov

You completely failed to comprehend what you read. Oh well. Not my problem.

 

[stealthycat]

You completely failed to comprehend what you read. Oh well. Not my problem.

what an incredible rebuttal - simply incredible !


can we be honest? millions are here illegally because they didn't want to play by the rules and many don't work in the fields doing work American's won't do because they're in the big sanctuary cities where there isn't any crops to pick. They're costing states bigly - like

• Healthcare: California is expected to spend $9.5 billion on healthcare for undocumented immigrants in the 2024-2025 budget
• Other Services (2022 data): A 2023 study estimated the cost of benefits and services provided to illegal aliens in California in 2022 to be $22.8 billion.

Regarding the cost of illegal immigration to Texas in 2024, data from November 2024 shows that Texas hospitals incurred $121.8 million in health care costs related to visits by people in the country illegally. This was reported by the Texas Health and Human Services Commission.
Based on data collected in 2024, the Florida Agency for Health Care Administration (AHCA) estimated that the total cost of healthcare provided to undocumented immigrants in Florida was nearly $660 million

• New York City's Spending: New York City spent $3.75 billion on asylum seeker shelter and services in fiscal year (FY) 2024. This includes shelter, services, food, and medical care.
• State Aid: The State of New York provided $1.31 billion to help cover these costs in FY 2024.

add up all the rapes, murders, human trafficking, kid trafficking/kid abuse/child porn ............... the massive costs to the USA and our citizens is huge

its undeniable and real

 

[Ikari]

you see exactly my points - liberals don't care about unborn babies, US citizens, or the slave-workers they'd abusing with illegally here people

that's the truth -

MAGA don't care about any of that either.

 

[TangoNoCash]

what an incredible rebuttal - simply incredible !


can we be honest? millions are here illegally because they didn't want to play by the rules and many don't work in the fields doing work American's won't do because they're in the big sanctuary cities where there isn't any crops to pick. They're costing states bigly - like

• Healthcare: California is expected to spend $9.5 billion on healthcare for undocumented immigrants in the 2024-2025 budget
• Other Services (2022 data): A 2023 study estimated the cost of benefits and services provided to illegal aliens in California in 2022 to be $22.8 billion.

Regarding the cost of illegal immigration to Texas in 2024, data from November 2024 shows that Texas hospitals incurred $121.8 million in health care costs related to visits by people in the country illegally. This was reported by the Texas Health and Human Services Commission.
Based on data collected in 2024, the Florida Agency for Health Care Administration (AHCA) estimated that the total cost of healthcare provided to undocumented immigrants in Florida was nearly $660 million

• New York City's Spending: New York City spent $3.75 billion on asylum seeker shelter and services in fiscal year (FY) 2024. This includes shelter, services, food, and medical care.
• State Aid: The State of New York provided $1.31 billion to help cover these costs in FY 2024.

add up all the rapes, murders, human trafficking, kid trafficking/kid abuse/child porn ............... the massive costs to the USA and our citizens is huge

its undeniable and real

Too many lies to know where to start. Let’s blame everything bad in my life on illegal immigrants. Best to just walk away. I understand where you stand. I have some extended family that think like this. We don’t talk much anymore either.

 

[What if...?]

Like in LA, where he didn't even bother to notify Newsom?

I like how he declared the Jan 6 to not be an emergency. What would he consider an “emergency”?