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LA immigration protests live updates: 700 Marines deployed to Los Angeles

lol

I think you've lost the narrative. If you're going to suggest that if we deport 100% of "illegals" that we won't have murder or rape or gangs, then I have a bridge to sell ya.

I bet you thought that was clever...
 
I did

Again, Trump was in court/found guilty in what he did ... what did her parents face? what convictions? what trials ?

nothing

if you excuse them, then excuse Trump right ? be consistent
What came first, the chicken or the egg.
 
no its 100% fact

cities and states would spending no money on illegals if they wasn't here, there would be no backlogs in our court systems, they wouldn't have raped/murdered American citizens, they wouldn't have trafficked in drugs and people, kids, no kid porn/abuse ..... they'd not be rioting/burning/looting/attacking in LA tonight ....

that's 100% fact, and 100% the core problem
lol. You’re drowning in Kool aid. That is one hell of a fantasy.
 
Arguing with dumb tautologies is...well...dumb.

0% of abortions happen to women who aren't pregnant.
100% of armed robberies are committed by people with a weapon.
ZERO points are made by using dumb tautologies.

You hate immigrants. Hate. Hate. Hate. Hope it doesn't affect your health.
It does.


And us.


I was once burned by a bile drain that leaked. ugh.
 
I think firing 200 rounds to eliminate a gunman's threat isn't all that extreme. Nor does it of itself portend a threat to U.S. democracy.

This is on a whole new level. We actually have government vs government now. We have citizens confronting the US military. We have a President who's made some very dangerous off hand comments and believes he has the power of a King. People still may call us a democracy but I'm afraid that's developing in to a new meaning for some.

That said, I hope your feelings are correct.
 
This is on a whole new level. We actually have government vs government now. We have citizens confronting the US military. We have a President who's made some very dangerous off hand comments and believes he has the power of a King. People still may call us a democracy but I'm afraid that's developing in to a new meaning for some.

That said, I hope your feelings are correct.
* It’s gonna wild.

Trump v2.

Trumpers everywhere think chaos is going to bring prosperity. They need to take one of Tacos cognitive tests.
 
Value yourself enough not to bitch out to Donald ****ing Trump of all the possible rapey old bastards, and then, you know, make amends for inflicting him upon the world.

I mean, y'all could've elevated Michelle Bachmann or Ted Cruz, gotten all of your policy dreams into the White House, and had none of the broad-daylight grifting, fascism, Putin-fellating and White Nationalists in the streets.

****, man, you could've backed Liz Cheney. And we'd be arguing policy, not Argentine Junta style abductions...

do you agree too with Hammish, Trump voters lives don't matter ?
 
It does.


And us.


I was once burned by a bile drain that leaked. ugh.
Yes, yes, the hatred is obviously a plot hatched by Big Pharma to sell Prilosec. I should write a letter to RFK Jr.
 
* It’s gonna wild.

Trump v2.

Trumpers everywhere think chaos is going to bring prosperity.They need to take one of Tacos cognitive tests.

the end game is Dark Maga, how to bring in the neo fascism thru contrived force. https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=Dark+Maga+is+technocracy&ia=web

have you figured out who is Financing the riots yet?

well here you go my friends....


Who Is Funding the Los Angeles Riots? Are the Riots Staged? What Is the Endgame?


normally it is kind of easy to smell a rat, all of the Rioting this weekend is well organized. what is hard for the sheep to figure out is how the Oligarchs use violence to control us into their End Game.

if you can't figure that out, i prolly can't help you much.


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Solution - deport every illegally here person
Even the millions who came as little children and have lived here for decades? Educated worked and even served the country ?
 
Even the millions who came as little children and have lived here for decades? Educated worked and even served the country ?
You can do whatever you want in Canada. Take them, take them all.
 
the end game is Dark Maga, how to bring in the neo fascism thru contrived force. https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=Dark+Maga+is+technocracy&ia=web

have you figured out who is Financing the riots yet?

well here you go my friends....


Who Is Funding the Los Angeles Riots? Are the Riots Staged? What Is the Endgame?


normally it is kind of easy to smell a rat, all of the Rioting this weekend is well organized. what is hard for the sheep to figure out is how the Oligarchs use violence to control us into their End Game.

if you can't figure that out, i prolly can't help you much.


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If true, Trump is playing right in to their hands to disrupt this country.
 
lol. You’re drowning in Kool aid. That is one hell of a fantasy.

there will always be people breaking laws - that's true

but its crystal clear the massive difference in Biden and Trump isn't it ?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-border-crossings-wartime-powers/83730925007/

Southwest border encounters reach historic low

Now, border is way more secured .... (thank you Trump) ... we can now work getting all the illegally here people out of the USA starting with criminals etc (they shouldn't be here)

What a fantastic start isn't it ?
 
Even the millions who came as little children and have lived here for decades? Educated worked and even served the country ?

I'd do it in a way that takes all that into account

but the problem has been allowed by liberals/Democrats for so long ... its going to be painful for some people, it won't go 100% perfect

but people shouldn't ever have come here illegally, and people shouldn't have allowed them to stay illegally either - its time to fix it all
 
DOD lawyers are talking about working out the “rules of engagement.”

**** the Marines.
No, **** the CinC and his minions in the Administration who urged this and who carried it out.

Well, no, also **** any marines who engage with citizens on US soil no matter what their orders were. (But yes, also **** everyone who gave the orders).

They have no business carrying out civilian law enforcement, which is explicitly what Trump said they're there for. If they do it just because they had unconstitutional orders to, that reflects on the "oath-honoring" capacity I so frequently hear praised, as if it were a magic shield that prevents people from following such orders. There's no ****ing "insurrection". That was 1/6/21. There's a burnt car and some days of protest.
 
there will always be people breaking laws - that's true

but its crystal clear the massive difference in Biden and Trump isn't it ?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-border-crossings-wartime-powers/83730925007/

Southwest border encounters reach historic low

Now, border is way more secured .... (thank you Trump) ... we can now work getting all the illegally here people out of the USA starting with criminals etc (they shouldn't be here)

What a fantastic start isn't it ?
It is crystal clear. It comes down to economic stability and growth versus riots, chaos and tariffs (tax hikes on Americans). You’re preference seems to be pretty clear.
 
Genuine question: any Marine on the board think this is a good idea?
 
Genuine question: any Marine on the board think this is a good idea?
Different question. How long till the US military murders one or more US citizens over this? When those guys get surrounded they are trained to start shooting.
 
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do you agree too with Hammish, Trump voters lives don't matter ?
I think the cosmos exists to erase us all. You're asking an existential nihilist with Taoist sensibilities the kind of question that's going to get you all the answers you don't like. Now, my version of existential nihilism stems from an everyday sensitivity to mono no aware, not from a profound lassitude or exhaustion. I think nothing matters, and that everything we do is for naught. That is the truth of the universe, not a rejection of it.

From which I draw two very necessary surmisals about how to live:

1. First, we all die alone. Even in a room of loved ones, after a delightful final feast, at the time of one's choosing, we go into the final darkness as we emerged from the primal one, alone. That makes every single living thing a precious and tragic fluttering of something like magic, but a magic doomed to inescapable annihilation. The aloneness (the philosophical term is severalty) burdens every one of us with three equally ineluctable conditions: freedom, contingency and accountability. We none of us possess them, or comprehend them, in equal degrees, at the same time, or in the same manner. But because no one can escape these conditions, we all at a minimum owe each other a respect for how they shape lives before those lives become aware. The short word for all that is: tolerance. Leave people free to work it out as long as their working it out doesn't prevent others from doing so too. Or colloquially, as I am not going to die your death I don't get to live your life.

2. Lots of people face this realization of ultimate meaninglessness, and their senses of self do not survive the encounter. There are numberless ways of coping. And since most of the human race is composed of storytellers, a lot of that coping takes the shape of stories. Stories learned too early to be questioned objectively. Stories that allow for sleep, or distraction, or love, or a quiet self-destruction. Stories none of us, referring to 1.) above, have sufficient freedom or license to disrupt. We need not assist in them, but to thieve them from others during the too brief instances of their sentience, is nearly unforgivable. The short word for this is: compassion.

From these two, preceding, I derive a final and equally necessary corollary: that those who violate toleration and compassion surrender their claims upon either. Like all the rest of us, their lives are meaningless, but they have transmutated that into enmity, into the worship of death. They must be dealt with, I think, in relation to the magnitude of their efforts to poison life's meaninglessness with intolerance, hatred, suffering and shame.

So, let me ask you: how does Trumpism rate, within those confines?

Yeah. You have your answer.
 
If true, Trump is playing right in to their hands to disrupt this country.

well i think it may be so.

my Political science friend says the Dialectic is quite commonly played at the highest levels of Politics, this sure looks like it.

basically you have Left vs Right, which would be the Dialectic in play here. (antithesis vs thesis which yields to a Synthesis, the outcome desired from the start)

i have thought of running a thread on the Dialectic as used in Politics, it would take a lot of work to pull off successfully.

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I think the cosmos exists to erase us all. You're asking an existential nihilist with Taoist sensibilities the kind of question that's going to get you all the answers you don't like. Now, my version of existential nihilism stems from an everyday sensitivity to mono no aware, not from a profound lassitude or exhaustion. I think nothing matters, and that everything we do is for naught. That is the truth of the universe, not a rejection of it.

From which I draw two very necessary surmisals about how to live:

1. First, we all die alone. Even in a room of loved ones, after a delightful final feast, at the time of one's choosing, we go into the final darkness as we emerged from the primal one, alone. That makes every single living thing a precious and tragic fluttering of something like magic, but a magic doomed to inescapable annihilation. The aloneness (the philosophical term is severalty) burdens every one of us with three equally ineluctable conditions: freedom, contingency and accountability. We none of us possess them, or comprehend them, in equal degrees, at the same time, or in the same manner. But because no one can escape these conditions, we all at a minimum owe each other a respect for how they shape lives before those lives become aware. The short word for all that is: tolerance. Leave people free to work it out as long as their working it out doesn't prevent others from doing so too. Or colloquially, as I am not going to die your death I don't get to live your life.

2. Lots of people face this realization of ultimate meaninglessness, and their senses of self do not survive the encounter. There are numberless ways of coping. And since most of the human race is composed of storytellers, a lot of that coping takes the shape of stories. Stories learned too early to be questioned objectively. Stories that allow for sleep, or distraction, or love, or a quiet self-destruction. Stories none of us, referring to 1.) above, have sufficient freedom or license to disrupt. We need not assist in them, but to thieve them from others during the too brief instances of their sentience, is nearly unforgivable. The short word for this is: compassion.

From these two, preceding, I derive a final and equally necessary corollary: that those who violate toleration and compassion surrender their claims upon either. Like all the rest of us, their lives are meaningless, but they have transmutated that into enmity, into the worship of death. They must be dealt with, I think, in relation to the magnitude of their efforts to poison life's meaninglessness with intolerance, hatred, suffering and shame.

So, let me ask you: how does Trumpism rate, within those confines?

Yeah. You have your answer.
The same way I arrived at Secular Humanism.
 
This is on a whole new level. We actually have government vs government now. We have citizens confronting the US military. We have a President who's made some very dangerous off hand comments and believes he has the power of a King. People still may call us a democracy but I'm afraid that's developing in to a new meaning for some.
If I remember my history correctly, we did this before. I think we called it "The Civil War". Only in that case, States attacked the US government. Trump is doing it the other way around. Only now the weapons are much more destructive.
 
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