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Sure, glad to.
I know it rubs some folks's fur the wrong way, but there is no Constitutional amendment that protects your right to violate the rights of others.
Sure, glad to.
I know it rubs some folks's fur the wrong way, but there is no Constitutional amendment that protects your right to violate the rights of others.
When those city ordinances protect the rights of others, you're damn right. How can you not agree with that?
So then you would have to agree that all those people in Wisconsin that obstructed City Hall was in violation of that type of city ordinance? How about the Tea Party Protesters? MLK Protesters? Should all of them have been arrested, charged, and sued?
But that is not what the OP is about. The money that they want to sue for is for the cost of raiding and imprisoning etc etc. The quote in the OP says that they want to sue for what the protest cost the city which was "$2.35 million, not counting repairs to the lawn and fountain outside City Hall, according to a report issued Friday...."
Now if the damage to the lawn and the fountain was done maliciously then yes someone should be charged for destruction of property as that is not a peaceful act. However if it was done on accident or through general use then it should not be charged to anyone but the taxpayers. And those alone would not cost that much. Hell, I could do it for under $5k.
I wasn't alive in the 1970s - and what I meant was that this country "had been built" way before arrogant Conservatives like you decided to start using it as the politically masturbating slogan du jour. You've built absolutely nothing. You're just one more worker who takes his little paycheck and goes home then does nothing but get fat and watch Sunday football. The percentage of actual work you've contributed to this country is so ridiculously insignificant that there is a decimal point and then several zeros before we actually get to what you, by yourself, have contributed to this society. I'm sure your family thanks you for your work and all that, but you've really built nothing in the grand scheme of things. Quit beating your chest about how you built this country. You're just one more little worker ant in this ant colony we call the US.
First off "occutards" isnt even catchy try to get a new one.
So what mess? The mess they left behind from the camp which they were forced out by the CITY?
I think that the Mayor is demonstrating because the blow-back from not cracking down on the Occutards is becoming a political liability. Without a doubt, Democrat Mayors across the land made complete hypocritical jackasses of themselves in support of this massive astro-turf movement.
Let's see who the first "Occupy-endorsed" candidate is in 2012 ? Any candidate worth a crap will treat such as the kiss of death. In the menatime, there will be hundreds of Tea-Party backed candidates. And they will do well.
Watch and learn liberals. Watch and learn ....... again.
You think that is catchy. They were living in "Obamavilles".
I think that is a valid question. I say good luck getting any money for any damages.
So then you would have to agree that all those people in Wisconsin that obstructed City Hall was in violation of that type of city ordinance? How about the Tea Party Protesters? MLK Protesters? Should all of them have been arrested, charged, and sued?
You helped build this country? Lmao. Pretty sure this country had been built by the 1980s bro.
When the Wisconsin protestors damaged public property, then you're damn right they violated the law.
PolitiFact Wisconsin | Wisconsin officials claim cleaning up the state Capitol will cost $7.5 million
You realize that's a liar, liar pants on fire link?
That memo said the cleanup would cost $347,500 if the work did not require a historic preservation specialist.
*From the link*
You realize that's a liar, liar pants on fire link?
How so?........
As the saying goes .. "I crap bigger than you".
And it ain't close.
When the Wisconsin protestors damaged public property, then you're damn right they violated the law.
PolitiFact Wisconsin | Wisconsin officials claim cleaning up the state Capitol will cost $7.5 million
It's whining to suggest that people not waste the taxpayers's money?
The problem appears to be that many of these 'peaceful protesters' are making a huge mess, a problem related directly to them and which has nothing to do with the Constitution. By attempting to make the claim that turning city streets into waste sites or deterring people from going about their normal routines diminishes the Constitution and those who would want to protect it.
Not claiming responsibility for your personal actions, or the group with whom you're involved, seems a natural inclination for those who feel that the government is responsible for their behavior and will have a temper tantrum when they dont get their way.
This trivialization of the Constitution does no one any good over the long term. It is worthy of greater respect.
I can't believe you wrote that.
If the protesters are making a mess, ****ing write a goddamned law against making a mess and then charge the responsible individuals with a ****ing crime. Foisting responsibility for the actions of a few onto an informally gathered group says that informal groups are not allowed to assemble if anyone ever has the means and the motive to run a false flag operation. That's a ****ing death blow to the freedom of assembly.
Trivializing the Constitution is EXACTLY what you are doing.
well that's typical. "it's your fault that we cost you money".
No it is not. Our Constitution is based upon peace. Shooting up a park and people is not peaceful.
While those in your links were not these protesters certainly are...
Ok, so the more realistic estimate of costs are....
Clearly a politically propagandist move to allege the $7.5 Mil...the more realistic figure is still quite a bit of money...Who should pay for that?
j-mac
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