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Justices signal they’ll OK new abortion limits, may toss Roe

If they do, I'm sending Susan Collins an email rubbing her nose in that stupid decision on Kavanaugh.
She knew what she was doing, despite the show of thoughtfulness
Hey I knew several of them that we’re praying for her death. God, apparently, wanted her dead
If there was a god, she'd still have been alive, after Drumpf's forced retirement.
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No such thing as "the Republican Court"; the alleged "republicans" cross over to vote with "Democratic" justices far more often than Dem Js go the other way. Think back a few months to the election fraud cases; how many did the 6-3 "Republican" court agree to hear?
Perhaps that's because.....







Wait for it...





There WAS no election fraud?
 
It is absolutely our business what you do to another human’s body without their consent.
Perfect.


I need bone marrow, and I'm going to have the state force you to give it to me, regardless of what that does to your personal health, home life, and career.
 
Your kidney and your bone marrow belong to you. You absolutely should be able to do whatever you want with your own body. A fetus is not your body.
Then there should be no issues with removing it.
 
Roe should be tossed. Abortion policy should be a state level matter, not a federal one.
Bullshit! How come Republicans are for small government and don't want their government, Federal or Local to tell them what to do EXCEPT when it comes to telling a woman what she can or cannot do with her body? This is about liberty and the freedom to choose what one does and having states preventing a woman from choosing what to do with her body is totally anti-constitutional.

SCOTUS will be forever damaged because instead of being respected as impartial it will forever be political and decisions will be based on politics not on what the Constitution says.
 
Because the mother doesn't believe it's human. You can't "kill" that which isn't human and that's the way the "pro choice" crowd tends to look at things.

Yup, a blob of fecal matter, how did we get this place.
 
What makes it "human" or not is whether or not it is "wanted". What a world in which we live that if you aren't "wanted" you aren't "human".
That pretty much sums it up, science sees a growing, dependent human being from day one.
 
Then marriage between members of different races and gay marriage should be at the state level too. Yet, the SCOTUS ruled unanimously in 1967 that state laws banning marriage between individuals of different races, holding that these anti-miscegenation statutes violated both the Due Process and the Equal Protection Clauses of the Fourteenth Amendment. All of these are constitutionally protected personal freedoms and no government level should be able to ban.

Isn't it interesting that conservatives are champions of individual rights except for abortion and contraceptives?
For now. That power will be back in the hands of the state soon.
 
Perfect.


I need bone marrow, and I'm going to have the state force you to give it to me, regardless of what that does to your personal health, home life, and career.
You can do that because we have no bodily autonomy. You are owned by the state per the conservatives
 
This is a common shibboleth among members of the left who do not know many actual pro-lifers very well.
I don't. That entire cohort is very religious. I am not. Nor do I accept any of their dogmatic positions.

I imply freedom.of religion also includes freedom.from it.

There are too damn many people.on the planet right now. Overpopulations is at the heart of the majority of suffering in the world today. I know, you don't think it's a.problem.

But of course you believe.it's.God's will and Jesus will.come soon and make it all go away.

And of course there's the observable fact that the majority of those who insist every child he born give zero ****s about those kids once they are born. Blame the parents for all of that suffering.
 
yep, one suggested just using the dump them within 48 hours proposition...which means more kids in foster care, in an already overloaded system.
Yup.

They only care that the mother suffers the consequences of having sex. Once the kid is born they give no further ****s about it.
 
This is a common shibboleth among members of the left who do not know many actual pro-lifers very well.
I’m personally very pro-life. I’m not an oppressor though. I don’t believe in government funding of abortion, but I’m not seeking to outlaw the medical procedure.

You CAN be pro-life and not pro-oppression.
 
When I was a kid (pre Roe) I read an editorial from a Doctor in one of our local hospitals, his message was that every week there were one, two or more deaths from back ally abortions, never registered as such.
Are we so eager to return to the days of yesteryear? I have grand daughters.
When I was a kid my aunt was pregnant at the same time Roe was coming to light. On one side I saw red faced angry women were on television demanding the right to abort. On the other side I saw a baby growing inside her mother. How do you explain to a child the difference in the babies growing inside their mothers that allow for one to be eradicated? Like it or not, (most) children DO know where babies come from and that they were once inside their own mother.
 
For now. That power will be back in the hands of the state soon.
It effectively already is. TX has effectively stopped abortions. In other states, there are a few scattered around the state making it difficult for poor women to get services. Rich women can just fly to blue states that have adequate abortion providers.

Then, the right-wing will complain about so many poor children.
 
I’m personally very pro-life. I’m not an oppressor though. I don’t believe in government funding of abortion, but I’m not seeking to outlaw the medical procedure.

You CAN be pro-life and not pro-oppression.
Abortion is a valid medical procedure that is sometimes necessary. Decisions on life and death are made every day in medicine. That's were abortion should fall - when it is a choice in life and death. There are many mothers who were advised not to carry their baby to term, yet chose to anyway. Many women who forwent chemotherapy in order to carry their baby to term. That's the place freedom of "choice" should be but abortion has been usurped by pop culture.
I don't. That entire cohort is very religious. I am not. Nor do I accept any of their dogmatic positions.

I imply freedom.of religion also includes freedom.from it.

There are too damn many people.on the planet right now. Overpopulations is at the heart of the majority of suffering in the world today. I know, you don't think it's a.problem.

But of course you believe.it's.God's will and Jesus will.come soon and make it all go away.

And of course there's the observable fact that the majority of those who insist every child he born give zero ****s about those kids once they are born. Blame the parents for all of that suffering.
Funny how people who feel there are too many people on the planet right now never seem to volunteer themselves to be "one less". Like Logan's Run - you only get 21 years. Did they have high hopes when Covid came on the scene?
 
When I was a kid my aunt was pregnant at the same time Roe was coming to light. On one side I saw red faced angry women were on television demanding the right to abort. On the other side I saw a baby growing inside her mother. How do you explain to a child the difference in the babies growing inside their mothers that allow for one to be eradicated? Like it or not, (most) children DO know where babies come from and that they were once inside their own mother.
My wife and I demonstrated for abortion rights when she was pregnant with our first child. There is no contradiction. Having the right to an abortion doesn't mean one needs to use it.
 
Yup.

They only care that the mother suffers the consequences of having sex. Once the kid is born they give no further ****s about it.
...and then do nothing about school shootings.
 
There are too damn many people.on the planet right now. Overpopulations is at the heart of the majority of suffering in the world today. I know, you don't think it's a.problem.
The good news is mother nature is finally thinning humanity out via the covid, she's had it with us ..we've become a destructive plague.

Not knowing when a baby is a baby speaks to our disconnection with our own nature and the nature around us.
 
My wife and I demonstrated for abortion rights when she was pregnant with our first child. There is no contradiction. Having the right to an abortion doesn't mean one needs to use it.
Then explain it to a 5 year old child.
 
My wife and I demonstrated for abortion rights when she was pregnant with our first child. There is no contradiction. Having the right to an abortion doesn't mean one needs to use it.
Plenty do, in 2017 alone, there were 519,180 abortions provided at abortion clinics and 28,760 abortions provided at hospitals in the U.S

 
When I was a kid (pre Roe) I read an editorial from a Doctor in one of our local hospitals, his message was that every week there were one, two or more deaths from back ally abortions, never registered as such.
Are we so eager to return to the days of yesteryear? I have grand daughters.
Dirty Dancing has been one of my favorite movies (not a single favorite thing kind of person in general) since I was about 8/9 years old (whatever year it came out, I saw it in the theater). I had no idea that Penny was getting an abortion and that it was illegal until I got older. I kept wondering how she had lied to her dad for years because without the knowledge that she was giving her money for an abortion and that this was illegal, I just didn't know.
 
Then explain it to a 5 year old child.
Explain hard decisions to a 5 year old? That's what you want someone to do? Are you also for comprehensive sex education for a 5 year old, explaining exactly what sex is and what it can lead to?
 
It's time to get rid of our 17th-century "kawnstitution". It does nothing but give tools of white supremacy and patriarchal oppression.
 
Abortion is a valid medical procedure that is sometimes necessary. Decisions on life and death are made every day in medicine. That's were abortion should fall - when it is a choice in life and death. There are many mothers who were advised not to carry their baby to term, yet chose to anyway. Many women who forwent chemotherapy in order to carry their baby to term. That's the place freedom of "choice" should be but abortion has been usurped by pop culture.

Funny how people who feel there are too many people on the planet right now never seem to volunteer themselves to be "one less". Like Logan's Run - you only get 21 years. Did they have high hopes when Covid came on the scene?
David attenborough had the best solution I've heard of yet.

Raise everybody up as fast as possible.

Because the more successful and comfortable a society becomes the lower it's birthrate becomes. Supply side, if you will.

When life is cheap, sex just means more kids to gather scraps.
 
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