Juno actor Ellen Page publicly comes out as a transgender male named Elliot and tells fans in a statement: 'My pronouns are he/they' - as wife of two

[Visbek]

When you post on twitter it becomes every ones concern. Things that are not every ones concern should probably be kept off of twitter.

Elliot didn't talk about how he and his wife planned to handle the transition. So yeah, someone who isn't genuinely interested in their well-being should almost certainly just let it go.

I suspect a good portion of the transgendered are homosexuals unable to come to grips with their homosexuality.

I suspect you have absolutely no clue about, and no interesting in actually finding out, the mindset of transgender individuals.

 

[dixon01767]

Sexual orientation and gender identity are very different and unrelated issues.

Actually inexorably entwined. Page is no longer a lesbian woman as a result of identifying as a man.

 

[dixon01767]

Elliot didn't talk about how he and his wife planned to handle the transition. So yeah, someone who isn't genuinely interested in their well-being should almost certainly just let it go.

Oh nonsense. She wants the attention and that's why she posted it on twitter.

I suspect you have absolutely no clue about, and no interesting in actually finding out, the mindset of transgender individuals.

Most of them suffer from a mental disorder.

 

[ecofarm]

When you post on twitter it becomes every ones concern. Things that are not every ones concern should probably be kept off of twitter.

So no matter what someone posts on Twitter, you're concerned? I have seen some stuff on Twitter that you might wanna see.

 

[Lisa]

Actually inexorably entwined. Page is no longer a lesbian woman as a result of identifying as a man.

: double facepalm:


Of course if a person changes their outward gender identity then their apparent sexual orientation appears to change. Has Elliot Page mentioned anything about her sexual orientation yet? He could be bi , or even asexual male.

If a trans-female is heterosexual in her sexual orientation but she never acted on her attraction to males beforehand, was she ever a gay man to begin with when she was still in the closet and appeared to be a guy?

 

[dixon01767]

: double facepalm:


Of course if a person changes their outward gender identity then their apparent sexual orientation appears to change.

Says the girl who proclaimed gender identity and sexual orientation are unrelated. Now its well...… except in this case where one dictates the other. Whatever gets you through your day.

 

[dixon01767]

So no matter what someone posts on Twitter, you're concerned?

Concerned to the point I posted on debatepolitics .com regarding some matters not all.

 

[ecofarm]

Concerned to the point I posted on debatepolitics .com regarding some matters not all.

So, it's when people mention certain subjects on Twitter, that triggers you? That's a horrible condition. Get well.

 

[dixon01767]

So, it's when people mention certain subjects on Twitter, that triggers you? That's a horrible condition. Get well.

Ive not been triggered. Soooo not sure what you are babbling on about now.

 

[Deuce]

Another victim of liberal propaganda

Keira Bell lawyer warns on internet coverage of transgender issues

After landmark high court ruling, solicitor highlights worry over online influence on teenagers making life-changing decisions

www.theguardian.com

What are you talking about?

 

[Visbek]

Oh nonsense. She wants the attention and that's why she posted it on twitter.

Was there some way for an internationally known actor to transition gender, without anyone noticing?

Most of them suffer from a mental disorder.

Spare us the transphobic and unscientific nonsense.

 

[buck]

Spare us the transphobic and unscientific nonsense.

I could be wrong, since I don't follow it that closely. But, I have glanced some studies that suggest that not only are democrat's a bit more likely to suffer from some form of mental disorder than republicans, but the trans are far more likely to suffer mental disorders than cis. So, while I make no guarantees and i will not research it now, it seems he is correct.

 

[NatMorton]

Let me guess. You're one of those people who insists that there are only two genders. Am I right?

There are only two genders, though there are some rare genetic disorders that result in someone having physical characteristics of both.

 

[Phys251]

There are only two genders

Why do you refuse to change that dogma?

 

[NatMorton]

Why do you refuse to change that dogma?

Because it isn't dogma; it's biology. I can no more "change" it than I can change gravity.

 

[Phys251]

Because it isn't dogma

^ Lies that it's not a dogma. Gets dogmatic about it. Doesn't produce a shred of evidence to support his dogma.

You can't make this shit up, people.

 

[dixon01767]

Was there some way for an internationally known actor to transition gender, without anyone noticing?



Spare us the transphobic and unscientific nonsense.

????? Up until recently according to the APA all transgendered had a mental disorder. And if this actor is transitioning, its an indicator she likely suffers from the mental disorder of gender dysphoria.

 

[Phys251]

????? Up until recently according to the APA all transgendered had a mental disorder. And if this actor is transitioning, its an indicator she likely suffers from the mental disorder of gender dysphoria.

The APA corrected their error based on science. This is something that people who subscribe to the dogma of transphobia refuse to do.

 

[NatMorton]

^ Lies that it's not a dogma. Gets dogmatic about it. Doesn't produce a shred of evidence to support his dogma.

You can't make this shit up, people.

But you do make it up. I do not. For example:

Sex Determination​

Mammalian sex is determined genetically by the combination of X and Y chromosomes. Individuals homozygous for X (XX) are female and heterozygous individuals (XY) are male. In mammals, the presence of a Y chromosome causes the development of male characteristics and its absence results in female characteristics. The XY system is also found in some insects and plants.​

18.1 How Animals Reproduce - Concepts of Biology | OpenStax

By the end of this section, you will be able to: Describe advantages and disadvantages of asexual and sexual reproduction Discuss asexual reproduction

openstax.org

 

[NatMorton]

The APA corrected their error based on science. This is something that people who subscribe to the dogma of transphobia refuse to do.

They more likely corrected their 'error' in response to political pressure. This is what those committed to political correctness over reason often do.

 

[dixon01767]

The APA corrected their error based on science.

Actually, like homosexuality, it was by vote of the members of APA.

 

[Phys251]

But you do make it up.

no u

 

[Phys251]

They more likely corrected their 'error' in response to political pressure. This is what those committed to political correctness over reason often do.

I'm so sorry that you think you know more about gender than the entire APA combined.

 

[NatMorton]

I'm so sorry that you think you know more about gender than the entire APA combined.

... as you ignore the scientific reference cited. Maybe you should put the smiley faces down and read a bit more.

You have made a fundamental error conflating gender, of which there are only two, and gender identity, a far more flexible construct.

 

[Phys251]

... as you ignore the scientific reference cited. Maybe you should put the smiley faces down and read a bit more.

You have made a fundamental error conflating gender, of which there are only two, and gender identity, a far more flexible construct.

What entitles you to claim more expertise than the entire APA combined? Show your work, or dismiss your credibility.