June and snow? 60 year record busted.

[Renae]

Bismarck, N.D. (AP) Snow has fallen in Dickinson in June, the first time in nearly 60 years the city has seen snow past May.

National Weather Service meteorologist Janine Vining in Bismarck says there were unofficial reports of a couple of inches of snow in Dickinson on Saturday.

Vining says snow in North Dakota in June is uncommon, though it's not unheard of. She says other parts of the state have seen June snow within the past 10 years.

Williston and Bismarck had received only rain as of mid-Saturday, but Vining said snow was possible in those cities later in the day.

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Just a little tidbit of course.

 

[Redress]

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Just a little tidbit of course.

Here in Michigan they are predicting the coolest summer in years, which I am not complaining about.

 

[UtahBill]

I saw snow in Idaho Falls, Idaho on July 4th, somewhere around the early 80's, certainly between 77 and 85 which are the years I lived there.

 

[Jerry]

I saw snow in Idaho Falls...

I saw the fossils of dinosaurs who were flash-frozen with food in their mouths.

I'm not going to sweat a couple degrees over thousands of years.

 

[UtahBill]

I saw the fossils of dinosaurs who were flash-frozen with food in their mouths.

I'm not going to sweat a couple degrees over thousands of years.

How old are you?:2razz:

 

[Jerry]

How old are you?:2razz:

I was so pissed when the Ice Age hit....I had a thriving raptor egg farm...have you ever had raptor egg? You're missing out. Chicken eggs...pft...chickens can't hold a candle to the rich yet lite flavor of the raptor.

Omelets and pastries are only footnote...ever try raptor Balute? OMG just sprinkle on some hot sauce I could live on it!

They don't make very good pets, though...the children go missing....

 

[jfuh]

What's to debate or discuss about this?

 

[Renae]

What's to debate or discuss about this?

Not if you're a GW stooge, no it's nothing to discuss.

 

[winston53660]

Here in Michigan they are predicting the coolest summer in years, which I am not complaining about.

Damn I wish that would happen in Texas

 

[Baralis]

Here in Michigan they are predicting the coolest summer in years, which I am not complaining about.

We had the coolest summer of my life last year (Missouri). It reminded me of Flagstaff AZ summers. I loved it. I wish we could have a repeat.

 

[donsutherland1]

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Just a little tidbit of course.

Any single anomalous event--heat- or cold-related--is not necessarily an indication of climate change. The synoptic pattern may have had something to do with the negative Pacific Decadal Oscillation. In the past, such regimes have seen unseasonable late spring cold in the Pacific Northwest across to the Northern Plains.

 

[Gill]

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Just a little tidbit of course.

And that's not the only place........

California

Unseasonably wet and cold weather Friday resulted in fender benders, heavy snow and a rescue effort for schoolchildren who got cold on a Tuolumne County hike. Medics treated four children after they suffered hypothermic symptoms while on a camping trip with their Napa Valley charter school in the Pinecrest Reservoir area, according to the Tuolumne County Sheriff’s Department.
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The California Highway Patrol is advising drivers to behave “as you would if you were driving in December.” Chains are required on Highway 108 east of Strawberry, and the California Department of Transportation closed Tioga Pass on Friday because of snow.

Rain, snow and a rescue from cold - Local - The Modesto Bee

and....

Great Britain

Five days ago we were flocking to the beach, queueing for ice-creams and slathering on the sunscreen. Yesterday, we were shivering in summer’s first dusting of snow. Yes, snow. After the hottest spell of the year so far, sleet and snow swept in across northern parts of Britain while the rest of the country also cooled down considerably. The Cairngorms in Scotland were the chilliest, with temperatures falling to zero while the Pennines and Cumbrian fells managed a mere 3c (37f).

It's June...so it must be snowing: From sweltering to shivering in just a week, it could only happen in the great British summer | Mail Online

By the way, is a discussion of weather not allowed in the Environment & Climate forum???

 

[Renae]

Any single anomalous event--heat- or cold-related--is not necessarily an indication of climate change. The synoptic pattern may have had something to do with the negative Pacific Decadal Oscillation. In the past, such regimes have seen unseasonable late spring cold in the Pacific Northwest across to the Northern Plains.

Funny thing is, this particular forum has a lot of these "anomalies" in it, yet we're told none of them matter.

 

[UtahBill]

and there is a new ICE AGE movie coming out this summer.....

we are all doomed.....:shock:

 

[Edify_Always_In_All_Ways]

Funny thing is, this particular forum has a lot of these "anomalies" in it, yet we're told none of them matter.

Weather does not equal climate. Were you homeschooled and missed out on that? At any given moment, there is unseasonably cold weather somewhere on Earth and unseasonably warm weather elsewhere. I'm sure there were many such anomalies people tried to use as proof of global cooling during the few years it was in vogue. That is, from 1970-1980. Half as long as global warming, if that.

 

[donsutherland1]

Funny thing is, this particular forum has a lot of these "anomalies" in it, yet we're told none of them matter.

The magnitude and frequency of the anomalies would have to be increasing over a period of decades or longer for those anomalies to be indications of a changing climate regime, rather than temporary fluctuations or a cycle within the larger context of climate.

 

[Renae]

Weather does not equal climate. Were you homeschooled and missed out on that? At any given moment, there is unseasonably cold weather somewhere on Earth and unseasonably warm weather elsewhere. I'm sure there were many such anomalies people tried to use as proof of global cooling during the few years it was in vogue. That is, from 1970-1980. Half as long as global warming, if that.

10 years of trending lower temps and that's not enough for some of ya'll.

 

[TheRealOneThunder]

So basically, climate is cyclical?

 

[Renae]

So basically, climate is cyclical?

SSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't say that! You'll send the warmers into fits! You cannot mention the golden truth about Climate around them... it's like fingernails on a chalk board man.

 

[UtahBill]

So basically, climate is cyclical?

yes, it is, and the cycles are so long that we are only recently beginning to see the evidence of them. It wasn't that long ago that the el nino effect was unheard of....and the cause still isn't thoroughly understood.

The science channel, likewise history channel, are my source of info, and new breakthroughs in instrumentation that allows us to determine the atmospheric makeup over periods of thousands of years are enlightening.

For every show I watch that has one theory, tho, there is often another show that refutes it, and offers another theory.

Not getting my panties in a twist over any of this.....
But I do favor burning less polluting fuels, and finding alternatives, for other reasons, tho. Future Ice Ages or global warmings, doesn't matter to me, as I am convinced that they will happen with or without our input...

 

[Middleground]

10 years of trending lower temps and that's not enough for some of ya'll.

Still hanging onto that no matter how wrong you've been proven, eh? Is it any wonder I've practically given up on having a rational discussion on global warming when actual facts get twisted? There are a lot of unknowns when it comes to global warming, but it is 100% fact that the last 10 years have proven to be some of the hottest since temperatures have been recorded. Even despite a strong La Nina.

So yeah, keep up with the "oh my gawd, it's sooooo cold outside, global warming must be bull!" and I'll continue to shake my head with the shear nonsence that pollutes this forum. Perhaps I will call this phenomena "Forum Warming." :2razz:

 

[Gill]

Still hanging onto that no matter how wrong you've been proven, eh? Is it any wonder I've practically given up on having a rational discussion on global warming when actual facts get twisted? There are a lot of unknowns when it comes to global warming, but it is 100% fact that the last 10 years have proven to be some of the hottest since temperatures have been recorded. Even despite a strong La Nina.

So yeah, keep up with the "oh my gawd, it's sooooo cold outside, global warming must be bull!" and I'll continue to shake my head with the shear nonsence that pollutes this forum. Perhaps I will call this phenomena "Forum Warming." :2razz:

Still can't figure out how to read a graph????

Try one more time. It's really very easy.

 

[Middleground]

Still can't figure out how to read a graph????

Try one more time. It's really very easy.

The top 10 hottest years globally (based on anomalies from average global temperature from 1971 through 2000) include:

1998 – 0.94 degrees Fahrenheit (0.52 degrees Celsius) above average

2005 – 0.86 degrees Fahrenheit (0.48 degrees Celsius) above average
2003 – 0.83 degrees Fahrenheit (0.46 degrees Celsius) above average
2002 – 0.83 degrees Fahrenheit (0.46 degrees Celsius) above average
2004 – 0.77 degrees Fahrenheit (0.43 degrees Celsius) above average
2006 – 0.76 degrees Fahrenheit (0.42 degrees Celsius) above average
2007 – 0.74 degrees Fahrenheit (0.41 degrees Celsius) above average
2001 – 0.72 degrees Fahrenheit (0.40 degrees Celsius) above average
1997 – 0.65 degrees Fahrenheit (0.36 degrees Celsius) above average
1995 – 0.5 degrees Fahrenheit (0.28 degrees Celsius) above average

Yes, Gill... reading is very easy.


11 Hottest Years Occurred in Past 13 | LiveScience

 

[Renae]

The top 10 hottest years globally (based on anomalies from average global temperature from 1971 through 2000) include:

1998 – 0.94 degrees Fahrenheit (0.52 degrees Celsius) above average

2005 – 0.86 degrees Fahrenheit (0.48 degrees Celsius) above average
2003 – 0.83 degrees Fahrenheit (0.46 degrees Celsius) above average
2002 – 0.83 degrees Fahrenheit (0.46 degrees Celsius) above average
2004 – 0.77 degrees Fahrenheit (0.43 degrees Celsius) above average
2006 – 0.76 degrees Fahrenheit (0.42 degrees Celsius) above average
2007 – 0.74 degrees Fahrenheit (0.41 degrees Celsius) above average
2001 – 0.72 degrees Fahrenheit (0.40 degrees Celsius) above average
1997 – 0.65 degrees Fahrenheit (0.36 degrees Celsius) above average
1995 – 0.5 degrees Fahrenheit (0.28 degrees Celsius) above average

Yes, Gill... reading is very easy.


11 Hottest Years Occurred in Past 13 | LiveScience

LOL.

Look at this, on the other thread, MG is jumping my **** about "weather isn't climate!" and here she is using weather to refute you

 

[Renae]

The top 10 hottest years globally (based on anomalies from average global temperature from 1971 through 2000) include:

1998 – 0.94 degrees Fahrenheit (0.52 degrees Celsius) above average

2005 – 0.86 degrees Fahrenheit (0.48 degrees Celsius) above average
2003 – 0.83 degrees Fahrenheit (0.46 degrees Celsius) above average
2002 – 0.83 degrees Fahrenheit (0.46 degrees Celsius) above average
2004 – 0.77 degrees Fahrenheit (0.43 degrees Celsius) above average
2006 – 0.76 degrees Fahrenheit (0.42 degrees Celsius) above average
2007 – 0.74 degrees Fahrenheit (0.41 degrees Celsius) above average
2001 – 0.72 degrees Fahrenheit (0.40 degrees Celsius) above average
1997 – 0.65 degrees Fahrenheit (0.36 degrees Celsius) above average
1995 – 0.5 degrees Fahrenheit (0.28 degrees Celsius) above average

Yes, Gill... reading is very easy.


11 Hottest Years Occurred in Past 13 | LiveScience

And you're... wrong.