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(CNN) -- A judge on Thursday denied a request for President Barack Obama to testify at a court martial for a U.S. Army flight surgeon who refused to deploy to Afghanistan until he saw proof that Obama was born in the United States.
The judge, Army Col. Denise Lind, said any evidence or witnesses related to Obama's citizenship is irrelevant to the charges against Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, who has 17 years of service in the U.S. military.
I hope the military throws the book at him. With 17 years of service in the military he should know better than to try to use some wacko conspiracy bull**** to get out of deploying and he should have been setting an example for all of those he outranks.
I'm happy to see he's getting court-martial. Hopefully the jury will burn him. I'm surprised though as higher ups usually get a slap on the wrist.
Some of these old-timers sure seem to be terrified of going to Afghanistan; that psycho who shot all the people at Ft Hood was having the same issue, facing an Afghanistan deployment and desperate to get out of it.
It's strange, he claimed he didn't have any problem going to Iraq, just didn't want to go to Afghanistan.
At the peak of the fighting in Iraq in 2007, the casualty rate was much higher than it currently is in Afghanistan.
I wonder what these guys are so scared of? Discomfort? Primitive conditions? :shrug:
Maybe it's because of the media attention.
Good, because the issue here is that Col. Lakin refused to obey a lawful order and deploy. Very simple issue, very simple case, and hopefully a very simple punishment of prison and dishonorable discharge.
Once more - Where is proof of your birth, Obama? It's right here:
Article is here.
I do hope you realize that doesn't prove Obama was born in Hawaii.
In fact that 'official' looking document isn't even enough to get a passport.
I do hope you realize that doesn't prove Obama was born in Hawaii.
In fact that 'official' looking document isn't even enough to get a passport.
It was enough for Governor Linda Lingle, and she is a Republican.
Also Obama's birth is documented in 2 Hawaiian Newspapers, in which the announcements were printed the very day he was born.
Obama is a citizen. Period. Everything else is just conspiracy theories which deserve their place alongside Bigfoot, invaders from outer space, and Bush doing the World Trade Center.
I do hope you realize that doesn't prove Obama was born in Hawaii.
Some of these old-timers sure seem to be terrified of going to Afghanistan; that psycho who shot all the people at Ft Hood was having the same issue, facing an Afghanistan deployment and desperate to get out of it.
It's strange, he claimed he didn't have any problem going to Iraq, just didn't want to go to Afghanistan.
At the peak of the fighting in Iraq in 2007, the casualty rate was much higher than it currently is in Afghanistan.
I wonder what these guys are so scared of? Discomfort? Primitive conditions? :shrug:
It was enough for Governor Linda Lingle, and she is a Republican.
Also Obama's birth is documented in 2 Hawaiian Newspapers, in which the announcements were printed the very day he was born.
Obama is a citizen. Period. Everything else is just conspiracy theories which deserve their place alongside Bigfoot, invaders from outer space, and Bush doing the World Trade Center.
I have no sympathy for this individual but I find it rather calous of you to not feel any empathy for those who don't want to be redeployed but go out of a sense of duty. You really need to put yourself in the shoes of these men and women that have and are being redeployed to bum **** Egypt over and over again. I'm not sure if i could keep my sanity.
The fort hood shooter was not "redeploying"; he'd never been deployed before. He was terrified of going even once.
My son is slated to deploy to Afghanistan for the first time in the near future; I can assure you, it's something I've thought about.
That's why I'm wondering: why is the thought of deploying to Afghanistan so much more objectionable to these old-timers than Iraq was? The casualty rate isn't worse. What's so terrible over there?
I don't recall anyone pulling such bizarre stunts to avoid deployment to Iraq, even at the height of the fighting and no matter how many times they'd previously been deployed.
I know of a rocker that is a right wing republican and a gung ho war monger that **** his pants and didn't bath for a couple of weeks to avoid the Vietnam draft. Any idea who that is? If I ever run into this phony piece of excrement I guarantee you I will deck his sorry ass.
The thing that these idiots don't realize is even if he were born overseas he would still be a Natural Born Citizen because his mother is an American citizen. I know from experience having two kids born abroad to a foreign mother. I'm American and they're Natural Born Citizens despite never stepping foot in the states.
Why would someone spend over 3 million dollars out of their own pocket in legal fee's to fight having to show what should be a required document to run for President?
Just ask yourself that. Why not just show it. That doesn't cost one cent.
Why put out an incomplete document that doesn't prove anything.
Obama's own grandmother said she witnessed his birth in Kenya.
He fights to hide his birth certificate.
It's just very suspicious behavior. I never put much stock in this until I learned that he would spend so much of his own money to fight showing it.
Why would someone spend over 3 million dollars out of their own pocket in legal fee's to fight having to show what should be a required document to run for President?
Just ask yourself that. Why not just show it. That doesn't cost one cent.
Why put out an incomplete document that doesn't prove anything.
Obama's own grandmother said she witnessed his birth in Kenya.
He fights to hide his birth certificate.
It's just very suspicious behavior. I never put much stock in this until I learned that he would spend so much of his own money to fight showing it.
The document you see posted here is proof in a court of law that he's a natural born US citizen. If you were born and Hawaii and asked the state of Hawaii for a birth certificate, that is what they would give you. He showed you his birth certificate. I'm sorry you don't understand that, but there doesn't seem to be anything I can do to help you.
You've never in your life questioned whether a president was a legitimate US citizen. Except this one time, when a brown man with a funny name is president. Why do you suppose that is? if Ronald Reagan had shown you that document, you would have accepted it without question.
This is what cracks me up. The birthers make up some bull **** that a man with money and connections would resort to a ****ty photoshop job. Not he could have bribed doctors at a hospital in Hawaii for a birth certificate. Not he could have ink washed(a very popular method for counterfeiting money and forging checks) a actual birth certificate and stuck his and his parents name on it. Not even a he paid someone to steal a blank birth certificate, typed in the required info and borrowed a notary stamp. Instead of any of those more efficiant methods of producing an infallible fake these birther nuts are making the claim he got a ****ty photoshop done to produce a fake.
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