Judge orders Indiana DoC to give a baby killer his taxpayer-funded gender surgery (2 Viewers)

[CLAX1911]

Who told you that she is seeking breast augmentation? She has been granted bottom surgery(orchi and vaginoplasty) because of severe gender dysphoria.

There should be no plastic surgery for free for prisoners.

Indiana leaders differ on deference to ruling compelling transgender inmate’s surgery

Indiana’s second-in-command has pushed prison authorities to “ignore” a court order compelling them to provide a transgender inmate with a transition-related surgery — but legislative leaders on Thursday disagreed.

www.wlfi.com

 

[Roadvirus]

Even prisoner have innate rights to medical care while they are incarcerated.

Yes they do. But they do not have the right to gender surgery on taxpayer dime.

 

[Lisa]

Yes they do. But they do not have the right to gender surgery on taxpayer dime.

Medicaid, Medicare and the VA pay for gender services.

 

[Roadvirus]

Medicaid, Medicare and the VA pay for gender services.

I'm happy to see my tax dollars pay for a military vet's heart replacement surgery.
I'll grudgingly accept my tax dollars paying for an imprisoned murderer's cancerous tumor removal.

But i will never accept in any way my tax dollars going to pay for someone to get their gender changed. I draw the line right there. Period. Exclamation Point. Drop Mic.

 

[eohrnberger]

I'm happy to see my tax dollars pay for a military vet's heart replacement surgery.
I'll grudgingly accept my tax dollars paying for an imprisoned murderer's cancerous tumor removal.

But i will never accept in any way my tax dollars going to pay for someone to get their gender changed. I draw the line right there. Period. Exclamation Point. Drop Mic.

I'm very much of the same mind on those points.

 

[CLAX1911]

Medicaid, Medicare and the VA pay for gender services.

I'd say that's a little different. People who are veterans earned it by serving the country. Medicaid should be suspended regarding this until we can determine if it's medically necessary.

A convicted murderer should not get free cosmetic surgery murdering a child isn't the same as serving the country.

 

[CLAX1911]

I'm happy to see my tax dollars pay for a military vet's heart replacement surgery.
I'll grudgingly accept my tax dollars paying for an imprisoned murderer's cancerous tumor removal.

But i will never accept in any way my tax dollars going to pay for someone to get their gender changed. I draw the line right there. Period. Exclamation Point. Drop Mic.

You don't care about the mental health of murderers? What are you some kind of monster?

 

[Lisa]

I'd say that's a little different. People who are veterans earned it by serving the country. Medicaid should be suspended regarding this until we can determine if it's medically necessary.

A convicted murderer should not get free cosmetic surgery murdering a child isn't the same as serving the country.

Your views on what is medially necessary or constitutionally mandatory are worth what anyone has ever paid you for them. The DSM is very clear on this issue and your opinion doesn't change the fact.

 

[CLAX1911]

Your views on what is medially necessary or constitutionally mandatory are worth what anyone has ever paid you for them.

There's no constitutional right to plastic surgery

The DSM is very clear on this issue and your opinion doesn't change the fact.

Where they influenced by WPATH?

 

[SMTA]

If the murdering prick wants to turn himself in a woman, he better pony up the mullah for it. And the ACLU deserves nothing but ridicule for defending this idiot.



A federal district judge in Indiana has once again ordered the state Department of Correction (IDOC) to arrange a sex reassignment surgery for a transgender inmate convicted of reckless homicide of a baby, marking the latest development in the ongoing legal saga challenging an Indiana law banning the procedure.

The case, now in its second year, involves inmate Autumn Cordellioné's request for sex reassignment surgery. The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) first filed the lawsuit against the Indiana Department of Corrections in 2023 on behalf of Cordellioné, challenging an Indiana law that prohibits the Department of Corrections from using taxpayer funds to cover sex reassignment surgeries for inmates. The ACLU argues the law is a violation of the Eighth Amendment’s prohibition of "cruel and unusual punishment."

Trans inmate in prison for killing baby must get gender surgery at 'earliest opportunity': judge

An Indiana judge is mandating sex reassignment surgery for a transgender inmate, extending the ongoing legal challenge to a state law banning the procedure.

www.foxnews.com

Faux News source = bullshit

 

[Lisa]

There's no constitutional right to plastic surgery

There is a right to necessary medical care when if it is withheld the patient suffers.

Where they influenced by WPATH?

The DSM is the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual that is issued by the American Psychiatric Association every 15 years and updated every 10 years. It is the encyclopedia of mental health. https://www.psychiatryonline.org/dsm

WPATH is a professional medical-psych association of the people who treat transgender and nonbinary people. It was previously known as the Harry Benjamin Standards of Care because it was Dr. Harry Benjamin who was the first Dr to study gender identity in the 1950-60s.

 

[CLAX1911]

There is a right to necessary medical care when if it is withheld the patient suffers.

So? Is patient is a murderer he can **** himself.

The DSM is the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual that is issued by the American Psychiatric Association every 15 years and updated every 10 years. It is the encyclopedia of mental health. https://www.psychiatryonline.org/dsm

I didn't answer my question.

WPATH is a professional medical-psych association

I know it isn't it is an activist organization and an advocacy group.

of the people who treat transgender and nonbinary people. It was previously known as the Harry Benjamin Standards of Care because it was Dr. Harry Benjamin who was the first Dr to study gender identity in the 1950-60s.

Doesn't mean it's not an activist group. Whether you accept it or not this organization has been completely discredited.

 

[Lisa]

So? Is patient is a murderer he can **** himself.

Her ability or her desire to have sex is irrelevant to treating the gender dysphoria. Someone can have bottom surgery and still be asexual needs to be understood by you. Do you have to be so sexually crude with your replies?

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I didn't answer my question.

I know it isn't it is an activist organization and an advocacy group.

Everybody you dont like, regardless of the truth, seems to be an activist org' in your eyes. Does the diabetes or autism society to try convince people to be diabetic or autistic? The fact that it is not scientifically possible to talk someone into being transgender is lost on you. Were you groomed into being gay by the HRC?

Doesn't mean it's not an activist group. Whether you accept it or not this organization has been completely discredited.

Please explain from the perspective of an internet rando how WPATH has been discredited, just because you hold transphobic opinions that are not based in reality?

 

[CLAX1911]

Her ability or her desire to have sex is irrelevant to treating the gender dysphoria. Someone can have bottom surgery and still be asexual needs to be understood by you. Do you have to be so sexually crude with your replies?

If a murderer once free elective cosmetic surgery he can jump off a cliff how about that.

Everybody you dont like, regardless of the truth, seems to be an activist org' in your eyes.

No organizations that practice pseudoscience and pushy bully tactics with no medical reason for it at all are activist

Does the diabetes or autism society to try convince people to be diabetic or autistic?

Diabetes and autism isn't a strictly social issue.

The fact that it is not scientifically possible to talk someone into being transgender is lost on you.

Yeah falsehoods and lies are lost on me that's a good thing it means I'm pragmatic.

It turns out in fact you can and people do.

Were you groomed into being gay by the HRC?

No.

Please explain from the perspective of an internet rando how WPATH has been discredited, just because you hold transphobic opinions that are not based in reality?

They presented themselves as a medical advisory organization and they aren't they lied about that. It turns out it's a pseudoscience activist organization.

It's such a pseudoscience activist organization they pretend the entire UK is a conspiracy against them a group of terfs as it were. When you have to pretend the whole island of people have turned against you for no other reason than they just simply dislike you that's a conspiracy theory.

 

[Gatsby]

There is a right to necessary medical care when if it is withheld the patient suffers.

"The child-murderer has the sadz because he doesn't have a fake vagina grafted onto his body" is not the kind of suffering that requires medical intervention. In fact, there is nothing medically wrong with him at all.

 

[CLAX1911]

"The child-murderer has the sadz because he doesn't have a fake vagina grafted onto his body" is not the kind of suffering that requires medical intervention. In fact, there is nothing medically wrong with him at all.

The belief is that having a penis causes him desires to the point he might off himself. my thoughts it's a self solving problem.

 

[Lisa]

The belief is that having a penis causes him desires to the point he might off himself. my thoughts it's a self solving problem.

What part of the 8th amendment prohibition of cruel and unusual punishment confuses you?

Eighth Amendment​

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-8/

This is not a death penalty case.

 

[Gatsby]

The belief is that having a penis causes him desires to the point he might off himself. my thoughts it's a self solving problem.

Yup. If the prison wants to help him solve his problem, give him a noose. It costs the taxpayers less money and everyone wins.

 

[CLAX1911]

What part of the 8th amendment prohibition of cruel and unusual punishment confuses you?

If it's punishment to be yourself that's something you need to take up with your creator. Not providing cosmetic surgery isn't cruelty.

https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-8/

This is not a death penalty case.

No it isn't. If he chooses to kill himself it's suicide. If he tries to hold himself hostage to get free shit he should have picked a more valuable hostage.

 

[noonereal]

ACLU (an organization I once upon a time fully supported) is now full of crap.

Yeah, every time they win a case YOU don't support they suck.

Guess what, change the ****in laws don't grip because you don't like how it enabled a bad outcome.

 

[CLAX1911]

Yup. If the prison wants to help him solve his problem, give him a noose. It costs the taxpayers less money and everyone wins.

I don't agree with assistance in suicide. But if he does it that's on him.

 

[noonereal]

Seems the ACLU has gone off into the extremist leftist insanity land.

Another one. No surprise.

 

[Lisa]

If it's punishment to be yourself that's something you need to take up with your creator. Not providing cosmetic surgery isn't cruelty.

Treating gender dysphoria is not cosmetic surgery. This has been a settled issue for 20 years.

No it isn't. If he chooses to kill himself it's suicide. If he tries to hold himself hostage to get free shit he should have picked a more valuable hostage.

The state cannot willfully abuse a inmate by delaying and denying necessary medical care as punishment, regardless of your abusive opinions.


What happened to you being a christian, or is that just on Sunday? Do you know what the work HYPOCRITE means?

Matthew 7:12, 25:40.

 

[CLAX1911]

Treating gender dysphoria is not cosmetic surgery.

Cosmetic surgery to make a penis and I look sort of kind of like a vagina is.

This has been a settled issue for 20 years.

In your mind perhaps but for the rest of the world that doesn't live in la la land no.

The state cannot willfully abuse a inmate by delaying and denying necessary medical care as punishment, regardless of your abusive opinions.

It's not necessary show me the death rate of terminal penis having?

What happened to you being a christian, or is that just on Sunday? Do you know what the work HYPOCRITE means?

Matthew 7:12, 25:40.

I am a Christian. Show me the Bible verse where taxpayers must pay for someone to have a dickectomy.

 

[Lisa]

Cosmetic surgery to make a penis and I look sort of kind of like a vagina is.

In your mind perhaps but for the rest of the world that doesn't live in la la land no.

It's not necessary show me the death rate of terminal penis having?

I am a Christian. Show me the Bible verse where taxpayers must pay for someone to have a dickectomy.