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Judge Hands Gavin Newsom Control of National Guard in Blow to Trump

If writers burn down your house and your car and kill you then yes you are being deprived of that and we can see for ourselves LAPD is perfectly capable of stopping this so they haven't for all this done because the government wants to burn them out?
No ****ing houses were burned down and no manned cars were burned down ...there were 2 or 3 Google cars on one day that was burned and they are unmanned...and no ****ing body was killed.
 
No ****ing houses were burned down and no manned cars were burned down
That's because there was threat of military coming in there I'm stopping it. La is the riot couple of the world and all we have to do is Google LA riots and see what destruction they do.
...there were 2 or 3 Google cars on one day that was burned and they are unmanned...and no ****ing body was killed.
Because they were under threat of federal forces.
 
That's because there was threat of military coming in there I'm stopping it. La is the riot couple of the world and all we have to do is Google LA riots and see what destruction they do.

Because they were under threat of federal forces.
Nope, it had stopped after the first few hours...police did fine bringing it under control. A lot of the pictures you see in Google are from 2020 and aren't even in LA.
 
Attacks on groups and precedents is what the Democrats law suit blitz is all about.
It isn't, if you read the rulings, some of which have come from the Supreme Court as well.

Democrats put themselves into a position of no leverage in Congress by assuming the extremist Orange Man Bad posture of no compromise extremism. It's a party being led by litigation happy radicals.
They lost an election, sure. To complain about litigation considering it's Trump's preferred way to settle things is worth a chuckle.

New Deal court challenges were to specific abuses unlike the current lawsuit barrage attaching every Trump administration action.
Well that's what many of these lawsuits have been about, specifically perceived overreaches of executive power. You should know this because all of the Project 2025 folks in the administration have been pushing the unitary executive theory and are taking their shots.
 
I believe the Appeals Court is hearing this case today. I don't know how long it will take to hear the case and decide, but we may get a ruling this week.
 
“In an order following an afternoon hearing, Breyer concluded that "Defendants are temporarily ENJOINED from deploying members of the California National Guard in Los Angeles. Defendants are DIRECTED to return control of the California National Guard to Governor Newsom."

In the case, Trump is the defendant and Newsom is the plaintiff.”

Newsom wrote on X on Thursday:"BREAKING: The court just confirmed what we all know — the military belongs on the battlefield, not on our city streets. This win is not just for California, but the nation. It's a check on a man whose authoritarian tendencies are increasing by the day. End the illegal militarization of Los Angeles now, @realDonaldTrump. History is watching."

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Possibly the dumbest ruling of all time.
 
I believe the Appeals Court is hearing this case today. I don't know how long it will take to hear the case and decide, but we may get a ruling this week.

You can watch it here. Don't let the graphic confuse you, the link is the Zoom Court Hearing.



WW
 
So why is the video mentioning militia that's not national guard or the Marines.
Don't know. From what I read this is confined to the control of the National Guard.
 
I think this is strictly about the National Guard, not the Marines or anything else.

He's trying to make a point between militia and NG, not about the Marines.

It appeared he was trying to be cute implying that the militia and State National Guard are two different things.

The militia is inclusive of the National Guard but you can be in the militia without being in the NG. Because the militia is divided into the Organized and Unorganized Militia's under 10 USC § 246.

WW
 
He's trying to make a point between militia and NG, not about the Marines.

It appeared he was trying to be cute implying that the militia and State National Guard are two different things.
They are. I'm not trying to be cute I'm trying to be accurate
The militia is inclusive of the National Guard but you can be in the militia without being in the NG.
The national guard is a state-run defensive Force a militia is a township
Because the militia is divided into the Organized and Unorganized Militia's under 10 USC § 246.

WW
What does any of this have to do with the national guard?
 
@WorldWatcher, couldn’t open your link. May be my lack of computer skills, but I’m gonna post another just in case.
 
It doesn't say ,what is this it that you say doesn't say ? is there some sort of governmental body that outranks the president?
Yes. The congress, the president, and the judicial branch each out rank the other two.

They are co-equal. Each with the power to out rank the other two.

Take a civics class.

Its what makes America great
 
“In an order following an afternoon hearing, Breyer concluded that "Defendants are temporarily ENJOINED from deploying members of the California National Guard in Los Angeles. Defendants are DIRECTED to return control of the California National Guard to Governor Newsom."

In the case, Trump is the defendant and Newsom is the plaintiff.”

Newsom wrote on X on Thursday:"BREAKING: The court just confirmed what we all know — the military belongs on the battlefield, not on our city streets. This win is not just for California, but the nation. It's a check on a man whose authoritarian tendencies are increasing by the day. End the illegal militarization of Los Angeles now, @realDonaldTrump. History is watching."

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What does that mean for the Marines present?
 
Judge Breyer is hardly objective, being Clinton appointee.

Once it goes up the chain he, like others, will be overturned.

No one bitched when Eisenhower and Kennedy did the same thing to enforce civil right laws. Well, individuals bitched, but no one was dumb enough to take it to court.

I might add that when Abbot of Texas was using the Guard to enforce border control, Dems tried to get Biden to federalize the Texas guard under HIS control. I guarantee none of you would have been concerned in THAT case.
 
Judge Breyer is hardly objective, being Clinton appointee.

Once it goes up the chain he, like others, will be overturned.

No one bitched when Eisenhower and Kennedy did the same thing to enforce civil right laws. Well, individuals bitched, but no one was dumb enough to take it to court.

I might add that when Abbot of Texas was using the Guard to enforce border control, Dems tried to get Biden to federalize the Texas guard under HIS control. I guarantee none of you would have been concerned in THAT case.
What a ****ing stupid thing to say.
He is biased if you don't like the ruling but ok if you do?
Only GOP appointed judges can rule in cases? Oh wait even Trump appointees rule against him often.
 
Judge Breyer is hardly objective, being Clinton appointee.
Failing in the first sentence is much appreciated.

Once it goes up the chain he, like others, will be overturned.

No one bitched when Eisenhower and Kennedy did the same thing to enforce civil right laws. Well, individuals bitched, but no one was dumb enough to take it to court.

I might add that when Abbot of Texas was using the Guard to enforce border control, Dems tried to get Biden to federalize the Texas guard under HIS control. I guarantee none of you would have been concerned in THAT case.
This post is hardly objective, being MAGA.
 
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