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Joseph Stalin intellectual contributions. [W:266,392]

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As we know Joseph Stalin was the Leader of the USSR. However few known of his contributions to Academia. In his text "Marxism and Problems of Linguistics," 1950. It should be known that Russia's culture believes in understanding basic functions of society for later improvement. Stalin believed that Language derive from a base rather than a superstructure, and how its economics, politics, culture effect the language.
I would like to take some passages that seem influential....

Language is not a product of one or another base, old or new, within the given society, but of the whole course of the history of the society and of the history of the bases for many centuries.

It is no secret to anyone that the Russian language served Russian capitalism and Russian bourgeois culture before the October Revolution just as well as it now serves the socialist system and socialist culture of Russian society.


Language is one of those social phenomena which operate throughout the existence of a society. It arises and develops with the rise and development of a society. It dies when the society dies.

Marxism and Problems of Linguistics


Second attributes would be backing Trofim Lysenko with his idea of hybridization of crop yields. Science today in the west has evolve for a more lamarckian ideology. With special research in protein and water structure. It is fair to say that Trofim Lysenko was right.

Lamarck is back! Meet Susan Lindquist - YouTube

Epigenetics in Evolution with Dr Eva Jablonka - YouTube

BigPicture interviews Dr. Mae Wan Ho Partt 1 - YouTube

Mutation processes at the protein level: is Lamarc... [Mutat Res. 2001] - PubMed - NCBI

Inheritance of acquired traits in plants

Like father like son. A fresh review of the inheritance of acquired characteristics


Darwin also believe in inherited acquired characteristics.

The Descent of Man - Charles Darwin - Google Books


I may take this opportunity of remarking that my critics frequently assume that I attribute all changes of corporeal structure and mental power exclusively to the natural selection of such variations as are often called spontaneous; whereas, even in the first edition of the 'Origin of Species,' I distinctly stated that great weight must be attributed to the inherited effects of use and disuse, with respect both to the body and mind.

Descent of Man: Preface to the Second Edition

The american ideology of anti-communism and mccarthyism has left american around 80 years behind in biology and possible Linguistics. Only a change in mindset will prevail in the progress of humans.
 

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Re: Joseph Stalin intellectual contributions.

Huh, that's nice to know. I only knew him before as the thug dictator who killed millions of his own people.
 

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Huh, that's nice to know. I only knew him before as the thug dictator who killed millions of his own people.
Not sure if thats sarcasm. but no problem.
 

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Great the 2nd greatest mass murderer in history wrote a book and I should care why?
 

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Great the 2nd greatest mass murderer in history wrote a book and I should care why?
I don't think thats fair, the U.S did similar things. The understanding of Language is important for humans. Why you may ask, because it can to lead answers in other fields.

Oh and to answer your question from the other thread. I meant social significance as having a positive outcome, I don't consider science within military as a positive outcome.
 
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Great the 2nd greatest mass murderer in history wrote a book and I should care why?
And you have Winston Churchill quotes in your sig. Are you trying to claim some sort of moral superiority here?
 

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And you have Winston Churchill quotes in your sig. Are you trying to claim some sort of moral superiority here?
Hey, what do think about the links I have on characteristics of acquired traits. any comments.
 

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Wasn't Stalin the one who said something like that if he wanted to punish a country he would take it over and let the intellectuals run it, or something along those lines?

It is a good quote whoever said it but I cannot source it right off the bat.
 

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Wasn't Stalin the one who said something like that if he wanted to punish a country he would take it over and let the intellectuals run it, or something along those lines?

It is a good quote whoever said it but I cannot source it right off the bat.
If you find the source, we can debate it.
 

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Huh, I thought this was another "tovarisch" thread starter. Was wondering what happened to that faux russian advocate.

In any case, who cares about Stalin's literary accomplishments, meagre as they are. His faults overshadow them.
 

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Re: Joseph Stalin intellectual contributions.

Huh, I thought this was another "tovarisch" thread starter. Was wondering what happened to that faux russian advocate.

In any case, who cares about Stalin's literary accomplishments, meagre as they are. His faults overshadow them.
Someone else ask if I was tovarisch, I said no. I looked his threads up, I was insulted.

I would disagree. The west seems to disregard USSR science. I made another thread about. But I was removed.
 

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Someone else ask if I was tovarisch, I said no. I looked his threads up, I was insulted.

I would disagree. The west seems to disregard USSR science. I made another thread about. But I was removed.
Not true. For example we owe Russia for eye correction operations. They came from there to the USA, and we ran with that idea, but you did it succesfully first. We also respect the fact that Russia was the first into space, which compelled us to put the first man on the moon.

Have no fear, we greatly respect Russia and all it's achievements. :)
 

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Not true. For example we owe Russia for eye correction operations. They came from there to the USA, and we ran with that idea, but you did it succesfully first. We also respect the fact that Russia was the first into space, which compelled us to put the first man on the moon.

Have no fear, we greatly respect Russia and all it's achievements. :)
Two things that the U.S has trouble accepting is Characteristics of acquired traits, Which is just now being looked at (look at the second part of the op). Abiogenesis which Oparin successful proved that the chemicals gelatin and gum arabic can spontaneously structure themselves into coacervates, which resemble organic chemicals that could have possible create life, without invoking natural selection or random variation. This is why I posted studies showing lamarckian characteristics.

Marxism is still not accepted in the U.S. Which has influenced and embedded The science in the USSR.
 

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And you have Winston Churchill quotes in your sig. Are you trying to claim some sort of moral superiority here?
Did Winston Churchill Murder 20 million people?
 

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I don't think thats fair, the U.S did similar things. The understanding of Language is important for humans. Why you may ask, because it can to lead answers in other fields.

Oh and to answer your question from the other thread. I meant social significance as having a positive outcome, I don't consider science within military as a positive outcome.
Nuclear weapons led to nuclear power a positive outcome. Often military advancements lead to general advancements in society.
 

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Did Winston Churchill Murder 20 million people?
no, but he didn't have the forces to do it. When he did have the forces to do it, he wasted no time slaughtering the French who had not fired on the UK at Mers-el-Kébir just because they did not immediately yield to his commands.
 

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Did Winston Churchill Murder 20 million people?
No, but neither did Stalin.
 

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Nuclear weapons led to nuclear power a positive outcome. Often military advancements lead to general advancements in society.
Example:

Michael Faraday was ask to help create chemicals weapons for the Crimean War. He refuse due citing ethical reasons

Michael Faraday - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



This the same reason why I don'r consider the Nuclear bombs or any military technologies a positive aspect. Ethically reasons...
 

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Re: Joseph Stalin intellectual contributions.

Two things that the U.S has trouble accepting is Characteristics of acquired traits, Which is just now being looked at (look at the second part of the op). Abiogenesis which Oparin successful proved that the chemicals gelatin and gum arabic can spontaneously structure themselves into coacervates, which resemble organic chemicals that could have possible create life, without invoking natural selection or random variation. This is why I posted studies showing lamarckian characteristics.

Marxism is still not accepted in the U.S. Which has influenced and embedded The science in the USSR.
Abiogenesis is an extremely interesting area of science with multiple competing theories about what specific process resulted in the creation of organic molecules from inorganic compounds and is by no means a 'solved' area of science. The most famous initial experiments were those conducted by Miller-Urey which attempted to test some of the hypothesis put forth by Oparin and Haldane (a British geneticist) so I'm not sure how you can claim that the West or the US was unwilling to engage scientific theories put forth from Soviet scientists.

Edit: You also massively exaggerate the attention given to Lamarckism by the present day scientific community. The study of epigenetics while fascinating and certainly applicable to agriculture is not a validation of Lysenko who would still be wrong even if elements of Lamarckian inheritance were substantiated.
 
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No, but neither did Stalin.
One can have a discussion about the numbers (very difficult to quantify exactly) but Stalin did murder many millions of people. Only Mao surpassed him as a mass murderer.
 

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One can have a discussion about the numbers (very difficult to quantify exactly) but Stalin did murder many millions of people. Only Mao surpassed him as a mass murderer.
I don't think you fully understand the events that occurred back then. It's not that simple.
 

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I don't think you fully understand the events that occurred back then. It's not that simple.
I understand them very well. Obviously nothing is "simple". But Stalin was a mass-murderer on a gigantic scale. that's a historical fact.
 

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no, but he didn't have the forces to do it. When he did have the forces to do it, he wasted no time slaughtering the French who had not fired on the UK at Mers-el-Kébir just because they did not immediately yield to his commands.
So nothing about him killing his own people in the millions just complaints about a military action?
Not even close but if it makes you feel better to think that Churchill was anything like Stalin when it comes to evil mass murderers go ahead
 

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Example:

Michael Faraday was ask to help create chemicals weapons for the Crimean War. He refuse due citing ethical reasons

Michael Faraday - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


This the same reason why I don'r consider the Nuclear bombs or any military technologies a positive aspect. Ethically reasons...
Again it leads to other stuff.
Look don't get me wrong I think Russian scientists have made great contributions to the world.
I only have 2 problems with your comments
1. that it was due to Marxism
2. that they are superior to scientist elsewhere
 
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