Joseph Stalin intellectual contributions. [W:266,392]

[DDD]

Re: Joseph Stalin intellectual contributions.

Purpose. Reorganization, Interaction with the material. They also believed that a theory is built on the knowledge from the past.

You may not have understood me. How to make an unknown phenomenon become known by not using induction, deduction, hypothesis, and probability testing?

That theory is build on previous theories is nothing new. We call it the scientific body in fact.

How does one interacts with materials?

 

[jag2594]

Re: Joseph Stalin intellectual contributions.

Russia was not Marxists before the revolution.
Again there are great Russian scientists but that doesn't mean they are superior.

here are some good lists of greatest scientists. None are dominated by Stalinist Russia.
Top 10 Most Influential Scientists - Listverse
Inspiring People: Top 10 Scientists of All Time
Top 10 Greatest Scientists | Biography Online
10 Great Scientists of the World

Russian culture was similar to Marxist ideology. That is one reason why the people in Russia accepted the marxist revolution. Same with China.....dialectical materialism is similar to taoism.

 

[cpgrad08]

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Wow....take it easy. I think it has to do with propaganda versus stalin himself. The U.S killed millions of Natives, Slaves, and soldiers. But we still have people that believe that the constitution is about freedoms and rights. Which Howard Zinn disproved.

The United States admits that those events. Secondly ( this is not a justification) it didn't happen under one person like the 20 million Stalin killed. Once you openly admit the crimes against humanity that have been committed in the name of Communism then I will take you seriously. Tell then your just another Communist that comes on here and tries to rewrite history.

 

[Quag]

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Russian culture was similar to Marxist ideology. That is one reason why the people in Russia accepted the marxist revolution. Same with China.....dialectical materialism is similar to taoism.

The guys with guns were the main reason people accepted the revolution, they had no choice.
I admit I did not concentrate on Russian History in my studies but that comment seems like the kind of BS Stalinist Russia would spew when they went around changing history texts to suit their political agenda. Please provide some kind of evidence that Russian culture was similar to Marxist ideology.
As to Marxists scientists being superior you have yet to make that argument. You name a few scientists but that is it, Mendeleev was before the revolution and thus cannot be called Marxists scientists. I have posted names of many more can you explain how they were inferior?

 

[jag2594]

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You may not have understood me. How to make an unknown phenomenon become known by not using induction, deduction, hypothesis, and probability testing?

That theory is build on previous theories is nothing new. We call it the scientific body in fact.

How does one interacts with materials?

Example:

In the west the brain is viewed as a program similar to a computer, which denies consciousness to organisms. In Russia the brain has plasticity characteristics, adaptability, and learning is infinite.

In the west, aggressive behavior is believed to be innate, In Russian ideology, aggressive behavior is view subjectively.Possibly trying to determine why an organism be aggressive. Possibly fearful, stress reaction. ect.

 

[jag2594]

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The United States admits that those events. Secondly ( this is not a justification) it didn't happen under one person like the 20 million Stalin killed. Once you openly admit the crimes against humanity that have been committed in the name of Communism then I will take you seriously. Tell then your just another Communist that comes on here and tries to rewrite history.

First,The United States has never Publicly Apologize to the indigenous people of North America . ( the living conditions of them is evident of the lack of equality)

Second, I never said that I didn't believe that the crimes done by the Stalinist. However labels are important. For example just because HItler called himself a socialist doesn't mean his actions were correlated with socialist ideology. Same with Stalin....

Third, crimes that the U.S ( capitalism) committed against humanity is pretty close to the crimes committed under the USSR. Natives, Slaves, poor work conditions, two redscares, Wars (for anti-communism), U.S intervention ( chile -pinochet deaths, latin american, middle east)

 

[jag2594]

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The guys with guns were the main reason people accepted the revolution, they had no choice.
I admit I did not concentrate on Russian History in my studies but that comment seems like the kind of BS Stalinist Russia would spew when they went around changing history texts to suit their political agenda. Please provide some kind of evidence that Russian culture was similar to Marxist ideology.
As to Marxists scientists being superior you have yet to make that argument. You name a few scientists but that is it, Mendeleev was before the revolution and thus cannot be called Marxists scientists. I have posted names of many more can you explain how they were inferior?

Eastern theology is rooted within greek philosophy, Western theology is based on roman law when constantinople fell. St Thomas had a direct connection with aristotle studies, while the west was translated from arabic which created confusion.

Russian orthodox church has some oriental characteristics.

Western Europe was built on conquering from roman and germanic empires. England was built around the era of Protestant and Catholic ideology.
Aristotelian christianity,

the science and arts before the Revolution was a stepping stone towards Communism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sobornost

 

[Quag]

Re: Joseph Stalin intellectual contributions.

Eastern theology is rooted within greek philosophy, Western theology is based on roman law when constantinople fell. St Thomas had a direct connection with aristotle studies, while the west was translated from arabic which created confusion.

Russian orthodox church has some oriental characteristics.

Western Europe was built on conquering from roman and germanic empires. England was built around the era of Protestant and Catholic ideology.
Aristotelian christianity,

the science and arts before the Revolution was a stepping stone towards Communism.

Sobornost - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Religion is not the only defining feature.
As to Sobornost that was just one root of thought and was not the all encompassing force in Russia. There were also cooperative philosophies in the west as well such as the Mennonites and Hutterites.
You still haven't explained why the scientists in the lists I have provided are inferior.
Newton, Curie, Bohr, Plank, Darwin, Da Vinci, Einstein, Hawking Just a small list please explain why these great scientists are inferior

 

[jag2594]

Re: Joseph Stalin intellectual contributions.

Religion is not the only defining feature.
As to Sobornost that was just one root of thought and was not the all encompassing force in Russia. There were also cooperative philosophies in the west as well such as the Mennonites and Hutterites.
You still haven't explained why the scientists in the lists I have provided are inferior.
Newton, Curie, Bohr, Plank, Darwin, Da Vinci, Einstein, Hawking Just a small list please explain why these great scientists are inferior

Never said they were inferior. Just said that Science in the Russia and USSR are at another level of their biochemistry, psychology, physiology. I think Hawking and Newton are extremely mechanically, I think Einstein was wrong on his photoeletric theory.

This is what Einstein wrote about Quantum mechanics

"Quantum mechanics is very worthy of regard. But an inner voice tells me that this is not yet the right track. The theory yields much, but it hardly brings us closer to the Old One's secrets. I, in any case, am convinced the He does not play dice."

 

[Quag]

Re: Joseph Stalin intellectual contributions.

Never said they were inferior. Just said that Science in the Russia and USSR are at another level of their biochemistry, psychology, physiology. I think Hawking and Newton are extremely mechanically, I think Einstein was wrong on his photoeletric theory.

This is what Einstein wrote about Quantum mechanics

"Quantum mechanics is very worthy of regard. But an inner voice tells me that this is not yet the right track. The theory yields much, but it hardly brings us closer to the Old One's secrets. I, in any case, am convinced the He does not play dice."

If Russian scientist are superior that means that non Russian scientists are inferior. As to Einstein, Does one have to be right 100% of the time to be a genius?

 

[jag2594]

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If Russian scientist are superior that means that non Russian scientists are inferior. As to Einstein, Does one have to be right 100% of the time to be a genius?

No, you are a strawman.

No but he's photoelectric idea has stop the progress in that area.

 

[Quag]

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No, you are a strawman.

No but he's photoelectric idea has stop the progress in that area.

Its not a straw man you claim Russian scientists are superior for them to be superior then others must be inferior. So far you have only given a couple of names and in no way have you shown them to be superior to non Russian scientist.

 

[jag2594]

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Its not a straw man you claim Russian scientists are superior for them to be superior then others must be inferior. So far you have only given a couple of names and in no way have you shown them to be superior to non Russian scientist.

If I give you more scientist, you will dismiss it because there is no real information on them.

Never said that all other scientist are inferior. Inferior is different between mediocre....

 

[cpgrad08]

Re: Joseph Stalin intellectual contributions.

First,The United States has never Publicly Apologize to the indigenous people of North America . ( the living conditions of them is evident of the lack of equality)

Second, I never said that I didn't believe that the crimes done by the Stalinist. However labels are important. For example just because HItler called himself a socialist doesn't mean his actions were correlated with socialist ideology. Same with Stalin....

Third, crimes that the U.S ( capitalism) committed against humanity is pretty close to the crimes committed under the USSR. Natives, Slaves, poor work conditions, two redscares, Wars (for anti-communism), U.S intervention ( chile -pinochet deaths, latin american, middle east)

Communism has had their verison of slavery it's called work camps. The USSR is well known for its poor working conditions of its workers and even its military with lack of safety producers and rushing stuff to get down. Just look at K-19 or Chernobyl.

Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Castro and so on have committed crimes in the name of Communism because that is what communism leads to power mad despost in charge because when the idea of Communism was being written Marx forgot one thing.. Human nature.

 

[cpgrad08]

Re: Joseph Stalin intellectual contributions.

First,The United States has never Publicly Apologize to the indigenous people of North America . ( the living conditions of them is evident of the lack of equality)

Second, I never said that I didn't believe that the crimes done by the Stalinist. However labels are important. For example just because HItler called himself a socialist doesn't mean his actions were correlated with socialist ideology. Same with Stalin....

Third, crimes that the U.S ( capitalism) committed against humanity is pretty close to the crimes committed under the USSR. Natives, Slaves, poor work conditions, two redscares, Wars (for anti-communism), U.S intervention ( chile -pinochet deaths, latin american, middle east)

The Hungarian rebellion, Afghanistan, wars for Communism in which they supplied Korea, Vietnam and the fact that Communist China got directly involved in Korea.

 

[jag2594]

Re: Joseph Stalin intellectual contributions.

Communism has had their verison of slavery it's called work camps. The USSR is well known for its poor working conditions of its workers and even its military with lack of safety producers and rushing stuff to get down. Just look at K-19 or Chernobyl.

Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Castro and so on have committed crimes in the name of Communism because that is what communism leads to power mad despost in charge because when the idea of Communism was being written Marx forgot one thing.. Human nature.

I would disagree, the communism revolutions were done before the knowing the power of non-violence.

I would disagree again, that is one of the problems with the science of the west. They believe that violence is human nature.

 

[Quag]

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If I give you more scientist, you will dismiss it because there is no real information on them.

Never said that all other scientist are inferior. Inferior is different between mediocre....

If Scientist A is superior to scientist B then scientist B is inferior to scientist A. A simple logical conclusion.
If Russian scientist are superior there must be some way you can explain how they are superior and why others are inferior.
Posting names of Russian scientist will not help your argument at all you are right about that. Posting their names with explanations of why they are superior will, provided you have enough scientist to make the trend obvious so you can make the claim that Russian scientist in general are superior.

 

[cpgrad08]

Re: Joseph Stalin intellectual contributions.

I would disagree, the communism revolutions were done before the knowing the power of non-violence.

I would disagree again, that is one of the problems with the science of the west. They believe that violence is human nature.

Because Violence is in human nature. To ignore that is just being blissfully ignorant

 

[sbrettt]

Re: Joseph Stalin intellectual contributions.

As we know Joseph Stalin was the Leader of the USSR. However few known of his contributions to Academia. In his text "Marxism and Problems of Linguistics," 1950. It should be known that Russia's culture believes in understanding basic functions of society for later improvement. Stalin believed that Language derive from a base rather than a superstructure, and how its economics, politics, culture effect the language.
I would like to take some passages that seem influential....

Language is not a product of one or another base, old or new, within the given society, but of the whole course of the history of the society and of the history of the bases for many centuries.

It is no secret to anyone that the Russian language served Russian capitalism and Russian bourgeois culture before the October Revolution just as well as it now serves the socialist system and socialist culture of Russian society.

Language is one of those social phenomena which operate throughout the existence of a society. It arises and develops with the rise and development of a society. It dies when the society dies.

Marxism and Problems of Linguistics


Second attributes would be backing Trofim Lysenko with his idea of hybridization of crop yields. Science today in the west has evolve for a more lamarckian ideology. With special research in protein and water structure. It is fair to say that Trofim Lysenko was right.

Lamarck is back! Meet Susan Lindquist - YouTube

Epigenetics in Evolution with Dr Eva Jablonka - YouTube

BigPicture interviews Dr. Mae Wan Ho Partt 1 - YouTube

Mutation processes at the protein level: is Lamarc... [Mutat Res. 2001] - PubMed - NCBI

Inheritance of acquired traits in plants

Like father like son. A fresh review of the inheritance of acquired characteristics


Darwin also believe in inherited acquired characteristics.

The Descent of Man - Charles Darwin - Google Books


I may take this opportunity of remarking that my critics frequently assume that I attribute all changes of corporeal structure and mental power exclusively to the natural selection of such variations as are often called spontaneous; whereas, even in the first edition of the 'Origin of Species,' I distinctly stated that great weight must be attributed to the inherited effects of use and disuse, with respect both to the body and mind.

Descent of Man: Preface to the Second Edition

The american ideology of anti-communism and mccarthyism has left american around 80 years behind in biology and possible Linguistics. Only a change in mindset will prevail in the progress of humans.

"One death is a tragedy. One million is a statistic."

 

[jag2594]

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Because Violence is in human nature. To ignore that is just being blissfully ignorant

Actually, no. Saying that violence is human nature is an excuse to kill people and go to war.

 

[cpgrad08]

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Actually, no. Saying that violence is human nature is an excuse to kill people and go to war.

Not really, violence is part of human nature but it's not a justifaction.

 

[jag2594]

Re: Joseph Stalin intellectual contributions.

"One death is a tragedy. One million is a statistic."

Not sure what you mean....

 

[jag2594]

Re: Joseph Stalin intellectual contributions.

Not really, violence is part of human nature but it's not a justifaction.

Do you have any evidence for the post?

 

[jag2594]

Re: Joseph Stalin intellectual contributions.

If Scientist A is superior to scientist B then scientist B is inferior to scientist A. A simple logical conclusion.
If Russian scientist are superior there must be some way you can explain how they are superior and why others are inferior.
Posting names of Russian scientist will not help your argument at all you are right about that. Posting their names with explanations of why they are superior will, provided you have enough scientist to make the trend obvious so you can make the claim that Russian scientist in general are superior.

No....disproving someone doesn't make them inferior.

I think there is enough information on the scientist on the web to come agree or disagree. Thats why I posted them.

 

[Quag]

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No....disproving someone doesn't make them inferior.

I think there is enough information on the scientist on the web to come agree or disagree. Thats why I posted them.

Never said anything about disproving merely that if A is superior to B then B is inferior to A.
You have made the claim that Russian scientists are superior therefore all other scientists must be inferior. You have 2 ways to go about proving this
1: prove Russian scientists are superior
2: Prove non Russian scientists are inferior
You can even do both.
So far you have merely posted names of a couple of scientists with no explanation of why they are superior to others.
If you wish to change your claim and merely state that Russia has some great scientists then you merely need post their resumes. You however have claimed they are superior I am asking for some kind of proof of this claim so far you have not given any.