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James O’Keefe Strikes Again

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To all you liberals, do not make the mistake of actually addressing anything that was said in those videos, because even though that would be the honest thing to do, it wouldn't be prudent since the fate of the senate is at stake... So get those talking points and O'Keefe attacks handy.

With that said, let the personal attacks, avoidance and liberal spin begin!



James O’Keefe Strikes Again
The guerilla filmmaker has exposed how voter fraud is both easy and condoned in Colorado.
By John Fund


Many liberals are adamant there is no threat of voter fraud that justifies efforts to improve the integrity of elections. “There is no real concrete evidence of voter fraud,” tweeted Donna Brazile, former acting chair of the Democratic National Committee, this week. “It’s a big ass lie.”

James O’Keefe, the guerilla filmmaker who brought down the ACORN voter-registration fraudsters in 2010 and forced the resignation of NPR executives, politely disagrees. Today, he is releasing some new undercover footage that raises disturbing questions about ballot integrity in Colorado, the site of fiercely contested races for the U.S. Senate, the U.S. House, and the governorship. When he raised the issue of filling out some of the unused ballots that are mailed to every household in the state this month, he was told by Meredith Hicks, the director of Work for Progress, a liberal group funded by Democratic Super PACS.: “That is not even like lying or something, if someone throws out a ballot, like if you want to fill it out you should do it.” She then brazenly offered O’Keefe, disguised as a middle-aged college instructor, a job with her group.

The video of O’Keefe’s encounters with other operatives is equally disturbing. He has a conversation with Greenpeace employee Christina Topping, and suggests he might have access to unused ballots from people who have recently moved out of college fraternity houses. “I mean it is putting the votes to good use,” she responds. “So really, truly, like yeah, that is awesome.”

James O

You can see the video here if you like.
 
To all you liberals, do not make the mistake of actually addressing anything that was said in those videos, because even though that would be the honest thing to do, it wouldn't be prudent since the fate of the senate is at stake... So get those talking points and O'Keefe attacks handy.

With that said, let the personal attacks, avoidance and liberal spin begin!





You can see the video here if you like.

A totally doctored video by a repeat offender. And you bought into it.
 
To all you liberals, do not make the mistake of actually addressing anything that was said in those videos, because even though that would be the honest thing to do, it wouldn't be prudent since the fate of the senate is at stake... So get those talking points and O'Keefe attacks handy.

With that said, let the personal attacks, avoidance and liberal spin begin!





You can see the video here if you like.

Grim...lecturing on honesty....:lamo
 
To all you liberals, do not make the mistake of actually addressing anything that was said in those videos, because even though that would be the honest thing to do, it wouldn't be prudent since the fate of the senate is at stake... So get those talking points and O'Keefe attacks handy.

With that said, let the personal attacks, avoidance and liberal spin begin!





You can see the video here if you like.

The man is a fraud and a liar, I thought you would have learned your lesson by now.

Colorado Dems: We Caught James O'Keefe and His Friends Trying to Bait Us Into Approving Voter Fraud | Mother Jones

James O'Keefe, the conservative provocateur, has been on the prowl in Colorado, the setting of a close Senate race between Democratic incumbent Mark Udall and GOP Rep. Cory Gardner, as well as a nip-and-tuck governor's contest. Last week, O'Keefe and two of his collaborators tried to bait Democratic field staffers into approving voter fraud involving Colorado's universal vote-by-mail program, according to three Democratic staffers who interacted with O'Keefe or his colleagues.

Democratic staffers in Colorado recently came to believe they were the subject of an O'Keefe operation after campaign workers became suspicious about would-be volunteers who had asked about filling out and submitting mail-in ballots for others. Recently, the 30-year-old O'Keefe has targeted the Senate campaigns ofArkansas Democrat Mark Pryor and Kentucky Democrat Alison Lundergan Grimes by filming undercover videos of staffers or the candidate.

Last Tuesday, a man who appeared to be in his 20s showed up at a Democratic field office in Boulder wanting to volunteer to help elect Udall and Rep. Jared Polis (D-Colo.), according to a Democratic staffer who met with him and asked not to be identified. The man introduced himself as "Nick Davis," and he said he was a University of Colorado-Boulder student and LGBT activist involved with a student group called Rocky Mountain Vote Pride. Davis mentioned polls showing the race between Udall and Gardner was tight, and he asked the staffer if he should fill out and mail in ballots for other college students who had moved away but still received mail on campus. The Democratic staffer says he told Davis that doing this would be voter fraud and that he should not do it.


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The man is a fraud and a liar, I thought you would have learned your lesson by now.

Colorado Dems: We Caught James O'Keefe and His Friends Trying to Bait Us Into Approving Voter Fraud | Mother Jones

James O'Keefe, the conservative provocateur, has been on the prowl in Colorado, the setting of a close Senate race between Democratic incumbent Mark Udall and GOP Rep. Cory Gardner, as well as a nip-and-tuck governor's contest. Last week, O'Keefe and two of his collaborators tried to bait Democratic field staffers into approving voter fraud involving Colorado's universal vote-by-mail program, according to three Democratic staffers who interacted with O'Keefe or his colleagues.

Democratic staffers in Colorado recently came to believe they were the subject of an O'Keefe operation after campaign workers became suspicious about would-be volunteers who had asked about filling out and submitting mail-in ballots for others. Recently, the 30-year-old O'Keefe has targeted the Senate campaigns ofArkansas Democrat Mark Pryor and Kentucky Democrat Alison Lundergan Grimes by filming undercover videos of staffers or the candidate.

Last Tuesday, a man who appeared to be in his 20s showed up at a Democratic field office in Boulder wanting to volunteer to help elect Udall and Rep. Jared Polis (D-Colo.), according to a Democratic staffer who met with him and asked not to be identified. The man introduced himself as "Nick Davis," and he said he was a University of Colorado-Boulder student and LGBT activist involved with a student group called Rocky Mountain Vote Pride. Davis mentioned polls showing the race between Udall and Gardner was tight, and he asked the staffer if he should fill out and mail in ballots for other college students who had moved away but still received mail on campus. The Democratic staffer says he told Davis that doing this would be voter fraud and that he should not do it.


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Your Mother Jones link is useless. All that article really does is report that O'Keefe was active in Colorado. Heck, O'Keefe told everyone that already. Oh...and those "we told him he should not do it" statement? Yeah, right. The video tells a different story...with their own words.
 
In another thread, I linked an article that talked about that mail-in ballot law that my Democrat-controlled Colorado legislature shoved down our throats...with the help of Hickenlooper. The article warned about just this kind of voter fraud being very possible. Now, I was fair in that I thought this kind of voter fraud could be perpetrated by either Party and I still think that way. But I am dismayed that our State Democrats would think this kind of thing is OK...and would be dumb enough to tell that to people.

I guess it kind of illustrates the moral and intelligence levels of some Colorado Democrats.
 
To all you liberals, do not make the mistake of actually addressing anything that was said in those videos, because even though that would be the honest thing to do, it wouldn't be prudent since the fate of the senate is at stake... So get those talking points and O'Keefe attacks handy.

With that said, let the personal attacks, avoidance and liberal spin begin!





You can see the video here if you like.

Every single other O'Keefe video has turned out to be deceptively edited. So, you'll forgive my skepticism for now, right?
 
The man is a fraud and a liar, I thought you would have learned your lesson by now.

Colorado Dems: We Caught James O'Keefe and His Friends Trying to Bait Us Into Approving Voter Fraud | Mother Jones

James O'Keefe, the conservative provocateur, has been on the prowl in Colorado, the setting of a close Senate race between Democratic incumbent Mark Udall and GOP Rep. Cory Gardner, as well as a nip-and-tuck governor's contest. Last week, O'Keefe and two of his collaborators tried to bait Democratic field staffers into approving voter fraud involving Colorado's universal vote-by-mail program, according to three Democratic staffers who interacted with O'Keefe or his colleagues.

Democratic staffers in Colorado recently came to believe they were the subject of an O'Keefe operation after campaign workers became suspicious about would-be volunteers who had asked about filling out and submitting mail-in ballots for others. Recently, the 30-year-old O'Keefe has targeted the Senate campaigns ofArkansas Democrat Mark Pryor and Kentucky Democrat Alison Lundergan Grimes by filming undercover videos of staffers or the candidate.

Last Tuesday, a man who appeared to be in his 20s showed up at a Democratic field office in Boulder wanting to volunteer to help elect Udall and Rep. Jared Polis (D-Colo.), according to a Democratic staffer who met with him and asked not to be identified. The man introduced himself as "Nick Davis," and he said he was a University of Colorado-Boulder student and LGBT activist involved with a student group called Rocky Mountain Vote Pride. Davis mentioned polls showing the race between Udall and Gardner was tight, and he asked the staffer if he should fill out and mail in ballots for other college students who had moved away but still received mail on campus. The Democratic staffer says he told Davis that doing this would be voter fraud and that he should not do it.


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Any comment on the video Pete, or are those talking points all you have?
 
In another thread, I linked an article that talked about that mail-in ballot law that my Democrat-controlled Colorado legislature shoved down our throats...with the help of Hickenlooper. The article warned about just this kind of voter fraud being very possible. Now, I was fair in that I thought this kind of voter fraud could be perpetrated by either Party and I still think that way. But I am dismayed that our State Democrats would think this kind of thing is OK...and would be dumb enough to tell that to people.

I guess it kind of illustrates the moral and intelligence levels of some Colorado Democrats.

And you just illustrated the very thing than not one liberal will dare address... It's why they are guaranteed to attack me, attack the source and do anything in their power to avoid any real discussion of what's on that tape.
 
Every single other O'Keefe video has turned out to be deceptively edited. So, you'll forgive my skepticism for now, right?

That statement is of course false, but just what I expected from every single one of you.....

Want to be the first on the left to comment on the video at the center of this story?
 
Any comment on the video Pete, or are those talking points all you have?
Sure, it's obvious what O'Keefe does, it may take 20-30 tries, but eventually finds a gullible victim and he of course throws out where the people have done the correct thing. (And no, I can't prove it.) Conservatives like you buy his videos hook, line and sinker.

There are a few things that don't make sense to me. As the video indicated Oregon has mail voting (we got our ballots in the mail yesterday), now I don't know if Colorado has the same system but here in Oregon we wouldn't get a ballot unless we are registered. And if you are registered to vote, you eligible to vote. Ballots are useless if you don't have the envelope because it has you name on it and the voter must sign the envelope otherwise it won't be counted. So the idea of looking through the trash is bogus.
 
Sure, it's obvious what O'Keefe does, it may take 20-30 tries, but eventually finds a gullible victim and he of course throws out where the people have done the correct thing. (And no, I can't prove it.) Conservatives like you buy his videos hook, line and sinker.

There are a few things that don't make sense to me. As the video indicated Oregon has mail voting (we got our ballots in the mail yesterday), now I don't know if Colorado has the same system but here in Oregon we wouldn't get a ballot unless we are registered. And if you are registered to vote, you eligible to vote. Ballots are useless if you don't have the envelope because it has you name on it and the voter must sign the envelope otherwise it won't be counted. So the idea of looking through the trash is bogus.

That was quite a mouth full Pete... It would have been easier to just say "No, I have no comment on the video".
 
That was quite a mouth full Pete... It would have been easier to just say "No, I have no comment on the video".

Where in the hell is your comment on the video, Grim?
 
Sure, it's obvious what O'Keefe does, it may take 20-30 tries, but eventually finds a gullible victim and he of course throws out where the people have done the correct thing. (And no, I can't prove it.) Conservatives like you buy his videos hook, line and sinker.

There are a few things that don't make sense to me. As the video indicated Oregon has mail voting (we got our ballots in the mail yesterday), now I don't know if Colorado has the same system but here in Oregon we wouldn't get a ballot unless we are registered. And if you are registered to vote, you eligible to vote. Ballots are useless if you don't have the envelope because it has you name on it and the voter must sign the envelope otherwise it won't be counted. So the idea of looking through the trash is bogus.

All it takes in Colorado is for someone to sign the name on the ballot and if someone else (or the same person) signs a name as a witness, then the ballot is counted. That's just one of the many crappy features of the Colorado law...which is unique amongst the States.
 
All it takes in Colorado is for someone to sign the name on the ballot and if someone else (or the same person) signs a name as a witness, then the ballot is counted. That's just one of the many crappy features of the Colorado law...which is unique amongst the States.
How can you get a ballot without registering or requesting one?
 
That was quite a mouth full Pete... It would have been easier to just say "No, I have no comment on the video".

I found it quite informative, actually. Tell me Grim, what voter fraud was committed in the vid?
 
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