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marchare said:Good site. Why far more credible? The convenient omission by the Kerry campaign of the charity-donation aspects of Cheney’s connections, is to be expected from a politician. In likewise fashion, Cheney’s insistence that he has “no financial interest in Halliburton of any kind”, was an outright lie. In a Sep. 22, 2003 memo (on same site) from the Congressional Research Service to Sen. Frank Lautenberg:“It is not clear whether the assignment to charities of the profits from exercising such ownerships and assets would necessarily render the financial instruments themselves as a “non-disqualifying” interest, since the underlying current value of the options are not necessarily changed (and still increases as the stock of the company increases and decreases as the stock price decreases), and the actual ownership of the underlying options remain in the name of and under the control of the federal official.”I pity those suckers who believe this Iraqupation is for any reason other than petroleum. Some folks will believe anything. Waging war for the benefit of a few well connected oligarchs is criminal. Sad also is that American POWs can expect laughter from their captors on the insistence that they be treated kindly. Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld to the gallows (after a war crimes tribunal, of course)!
Canuck said:The days are numbered
indicte the whole sahbang and round up all his supporters
the inner circle of NEO~CON~ARTISTS~NAZIS AND ALL THE NAZI SUPPORTS:3oops:
AK_Conservative said:Out of all the posts I have found of yours that have absurd claims about comparing america with nazis, i have asked you to back up your claim! You have not once even replied to it! You state these false accusations which in turn, demotes america and its values, and quite frankly, im sick of it, and im sick of you and your canadian nonsense!
I call for an IMPEACHMENT ON CANUCK FROM THE FORUM! WHo else supporst me?
The days are numbered
indicte the whole sahbang and round up all his supporters
the inner circle of NEO~CON~ARTISTS~NAZIS AND ALL THE NAZI SUPPORTS
Canuck said:
"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."
James Madison, while a United States Congressman
We usually think of a nation being controlled by a military dictatorship when a military leader seizes control through a putsch, as in the case of General Pervez Musharraf in Pakistan or Saddam Hussein in Iraq. The previous government is overthrown and a military strong man places himself in power with few if any constraints from judicial or legislative oversight.
But we must look for the essence of a military dictatorship, those features which are present whenever this form of oppression occurs. In essence, a military dictatorship is a form of government in which absolute power is concentrated in a repressive ruler or a small clique who use military and police power to dominate the people mentally and physically.
Taking this definition as our touchstone, in the United States we know we're living under a military dictatorship when we see:
disaster aid deliberately withheld by White House and Pentagon to impose unfettered military control
a leader retaining power through stealing the election of 2004 and put into power in 2000 by a coup d'etat, not through democratic elections
the military used to control the civilian population in violation of the U.S. Constitution
the president ordering a US citizen held indefinitely by the military
a shadow government being set up consisting entirely of executive branch officials in violation of the Constitution
government informants spying on fellow citizens
the highest amount of government funds going to military initiatives:
taxpayer money being used to subsidize and fund domestic and foreign "defense" corporations
taxpayer money being used to subsidize and fund domestic and foreign military operations: wars, embargoes, training, etc.
a dictatorial ruling clique creating unnecessary, homocidal wars as a way of remaining in power
the spread of militaristic values and the increasing power of the military in our society
All these conditions are now
present in the United States.
Canuck said:easy for you to say you live in an out of the way place in Alaska
the rest of us are at ground ZERO
Canuck said:a piture is worth a 1000 words you have but few
Canuck said:the pics you have show people nice people
why are you hitting them with nukes DU
why is there torturing of kids while their parents are forced to watch
how do you tell which Iraq person is a terrorists
I am sure the paint ballers associatin of america ( NATL Gaurd ) has no idea who is who they are just kids with over 100,000 dead Iraqians
why Is your closest friends and neighbors Canada saying YES to war on terrorism But saying no to
IRAQ because they are not threats to us our our allies
why are you saying its ok?
I at least comment on your photos
Canuck said:The days are numbered
indicte the whole sahbang and round up all his supporters
the inner circle of NEO~CON~ARTISTS~NAZIS AND ALL THE NAZI SUPPORTS:3oops:
Stu Ghatze said:Are not the leading democrats really pathetic these days? :2razz: They have nothing to run on themselves, ..& they have to invent conspiracies & ficticious stories, & attempt to smear Bush's advisors, cause' they just got to get Bush out of office somehow!
Well, Bush remains in spite of the idiotic charges, & the wicked name calling of Bush, & the outlandish stories of Bush being a Nazi.
Not only that but Bush is flourishing, & getting HIS supreme court nominations just as he said he would appoint who he wanted.
Bush never said the war on terror would be won soon or easy, he made that perfectly clear, but we know that the democrats like to chase body bags in hopes of comparing it to the Viet-Nam years, & thus helping to destroy support for the effort in Iraq, & the terror effort throughout the world!
Yea...that is when the democratic party, & their handwringing liberal pacifist allies were in their glory years, when the media spoke everybody "USED" to believe them.
Wasn't it nice in THOSE days to have a monopoly on almost all news segments whereas, the media, polls, & the whacko liberals "used" to have the ability to run a president into the ground, & destroy his consensus & his ability to be effective?
Ahh such a shame that even though it is STILL being attempted, ..it is no longer effective just as the modern democrats, & liberals are no longer effective at anything, except crying & bellyaching!:smile:
Mother nature, & all the Hurricanes have even been used in an attempt to have Bush viewed as ineffective" by the mother earth worshipers, & other environmental whacko groups that just cannot get it through their thick heads that weather patterns change constantly, & so do earth's cycles of cold, & hot, earthquakes, rainfall etc., ...& it has damn LITTLE to do with man!
In spite of all the lies, outrageous accusations, & inuendo appropriated at Mr. Bush, ..he remains dignified, & decent treating even his disgusting opponents with respect.(How, one only knows?)
If I had my druthers, ...I would opt for the TOTAL, & FINAL showdown with the senate democrats by way of the nuclear option promised by the senate majority, & settle this "WHO'S in CHARGE by way of the electorate, & tell the g-damn democrats, & liberals what everybody already knows, "THEY DO NOT CONTROL ANYTHING ANYMORE".
Not only that I would also tell them that by senate rules a "majority" vote means just that, ..even IF it be by only 1-vote, & stop trying to appease the g-damn liberal democrats because of "some" moderate republicans only want to look fair, & reasonable so that after senate session, they can all go & hobnob with each other, & be accepted by the liberal upper echelon of society.
John MCaine is such a man who thinks he needs the applause of the senate liberals for legitimacy, & wasn't MCaine flattered by the very thought of John Kerry thinking of allowing him to be his vice presidential candidate for the democratic party?
For over 40 years the liberal democrats controlled every facet of government, & now the monkey is off the back of the republicans, as the republicans were ALWAYS ignored, & forced to have liberal rubbish shoved down their throats.
Democrats had no illusions, & damn sure had NO intentions of sharing power, & did not with republicans when they owned all of government.
The arrogance of the democrats is really galling now, as THEY expect that they should have the republican majority sharing power with them now??
That is why their language is so vitreolic towards president Bush, & their madness in calling him a racist, a liar, a Nazi, & a murderer....it is because they are filled with nothing but hate & rage!
Its time to have the knockdown drag out fight in the senate that should have happened long ago; & lets ALLOW it to be televised too!
Lets have what the liberal democrats actually believe in, be heard BY the American public. Let them all be identified by their votes, & what they espouse for America, & above all, let them put their money where their mouths are by going PUBLIC, & no more guise, & double talk about issues that they so specialize in because THEY cannot ever be honest in what they believe in for fear of being tossed out on their as.ses, like so many of their democratic predicessors who have NOTHING in common with the average American majority anymore!
I would say, "it is high time to air it all out" in the senate, ..& to stop crying & whining & making up "phoney" stories about elections being stolen in a pathetic effort to garner sympathy by the uninformed, & ignorant who need a steady diet of conspiracy stories & bash Bush editorializing that gives only hope to the democratic party, ...cause' other than that, ..its all the democratic party has anymore!
watching Reps and Dems go at each others throats during a time of war is hilarious to say the least.They neither know what they are talking about or care.As long as their respective party wins the argument is all that counts
motives get that insane sociopathic idiot out of power I think it's workingoldreliable67 said:omigod! omigod! omigod! Canuck just wrote something that I agree with! Help! Call an ambulance! If take a couple of aspirin and lie down will it go away!
I can't be a canucky all the time
Seriously, though, if you take away the 'during a time of war is hilarious' phrase, I don't disagree with the sentiment expressed in that statement at all.
A time of war is a time for solidarity and instead we get ankle-biting, sniping and power struggle. But realistically, it was ever thus. Even in WWI and II. We, well, most of us, aren't old enough to remember it.
There will be no peace untill US is out of there for the inerest of all get out
As perhaps you can tell, I'm not a fan of politics or politicians. I find great agreement with Michael Lewis (author of "Liars Poker", "Moneyball", "The New, New Thing" and others) whose comments in a column for Bloomberg.com I'll select a few pertinent paragraphs...
these dems and reps have too much power the elite know America will choose one or the other ,Time to move on to a new party boys you need to shock them
"It doesn't much matter what I say. I might argue in favor of bombing the French, or jailing the poor, or skinning poodles to make fur hats, and these readers will still find something vaguely leftist about the argument to fuel their rage. They assume that I, like they, define myself by my political party, and that my party is the party of evil.
YOu may be able to see beyond the rhetoric that they can't see beyond their EGOs
The sad truth is, party politics is usually fairly low on the list of things I like to think about. Our nation's ability to support an industry of hysterical political commentary is, to me, a mystery. Who reads these angry books, who watches these noisy cable TV shows, who cares enough about Ann Coulter to wade through an entire Time Magazine cover story about her?
...America is suppose to be the best nation on EARTHif it were not for it's Elite owning the two parties it would be alot better place I have always enjoyed my visits to America it is much the same as Canda if you can steer clear of bombed out cleveland and such places
In historical context, the difference between Republicans and Democrats is the difference between light gray and medium gray. It seems a shame to waste a lot of energy defining oneself in opposition to one, and in sympathy with the other.
voters have life long aflictions and they don't even know it , in all probability will never know it , even pass it on to their offspring.
Faced with most political issues, and most politicians, I can see your apathy and raise you my boredom.
...My apathy is mild compared to the average American's Apathy
The romantic conception of people who make a living in politics -- the idea that the movies draw on when they want to make political types sympathetic -- is that they care so much more than the rest of us about the great issues of the day that they happily sacrifice their personal interests to Make A Difference. Some are indeed responsable elected officials but too many are tied to pork barrel spending and lobbyists
Anyone who actually knows political people knows that their desire to make a difference isn't typically their distinguishing trait. Their desire for status is. They are the people who sensed early on that they were unlikely to obtain status in a more straightforward occupation; they are the ones who figured out long ago that the only way to win was to try at games that everyone else was just playing at. They are the tiddlywinks champions of the world."
www.bloomberg.com
yes SIR
Maybe Canuck is like that mythical monkey that you sit down at a typewriter. Wait long enough and give him enough paper and someday he will have typed the next 'War and Peace'. Well, he finally typed something that may not make sense to many others, but it rings a bell with me. Though what Canuck's intentions might be are still a mystery.
Canuck said:motives get that insane sociopathic idiot out of power I think it's working
to poll says 50% want him impeached http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/10/11/171040/56once that is achieved you won't see me here ever again no more us flag with NAZI signs or rhetoric do I have to stay here 3 years god I hope not
lol
50% want bush impeached
The poll was conducted by Ipsos Public Affairs, the highly-regarded non-partisan polling company. The poll interviewed 1,001 U.S. adults on October 6-9.
The poll found that 50% agreed with the statement:
"If President Bush did not tell the truth about his reasons for going to war with Iraq, Congress should consider holding him accountable by impeaching him."
here is an Example of a good American elected official I don't know his record but he is standing up and speaking out on the hitler like doctrines
his picture please!
Ron Paul:
Congressman Ron Paul has accused the Bush administration of attempting to set in motion a militarized police state in America by enacting gun confiscation martial law provisions in the event of an avian flu pandemic. Paul also slammed as delusional and dangerous plans to invade Iran, Syria, North Korea and China.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
He is telling you straight this bush idiot is a nut
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2005/121005slamsbush.htm
the other pic is of Anti Americans war for profits for the ELITE
a 2 bit harlot can tell by looking at the 2 pics and pick the douchebags
Stu Ghatze said:Are not the leading democrats really pathetic these days? :2razz: They have nothing to run on themselves, ..& they have to invent conspiracies & ficticious stories, & attempt to smear Bush's advisors, cause' they just got to get Bush out of office somehow!
Well, Bush remains in spite of the idiotic charges, & the wicked name calling of Bush, & the outlandish stories of Bush being a Nazi.
Not only that but Bush is flourishing, & getting HIS supreme court nominations just as he said he would appoint who he wanted.
Bush never said the war on terror would be won soon or easy, he made that perfectly clear, but we know that the democrats like to chase body bags in hopes of comparing it to the Viet-Nam years, & thus helping to destroy support for the effort in Iraq, & the terror effort throughout the world!
Yea...that is when the democratic party, & their handwringing liberal pacifist allies were in their glory years, when the media spoke everybody "USED" to believe them.
Wasn't it nice in THOSE days to have a monopoly on almost all news segments whereas, the media, polls, & the whacko liberals "used" to have the ability to run a president into the ground, & destroy his consensus & his ability to be effective?
Ahh such a shame that even though it is STILL being attempted, ..it is no longer effective just as the modern democrats, & liberals are no longer effective at anything, except crying & bellyaching!:smile:
Mother nature, & all the Hurricanes have even been used in an attempt to have Bush viewed as ineffective" by the mother earth worshipers, & other environmental whacko groups that just cannot get it through their thick heads that weather patterns change constantly, & so do earth's cycles of cold, & hot, earthquakes, rainfall etc., ...& it has damn LITTLE to do with man!
In spite of all the lies, outrageous accusations, & inuendo appropriated at Mr. Bush, ..he remains dignified, & decent treating even his disgusting opponents with respect.(How, one only knows?)
If I had my druthers, ...I would opt for the TOTAL, & FINAL showdown with the senate democrats by way of the nuclear option promised by the senate majority, & settle this "WHO'S in CHARGE by way of the electorate, & tell the g-damn democrats, & liberals what everybody already knows, "THEY DO NOT CONTROL ANYTHING ANYMORE".
Not only that I would also tell them that by senate rules a "majority" vote means just that, ..even IF it be by only 1-vote, & stop trying to appease the g-damn liberal democrats because of "some" moderate republicans only want to look fair, & reasonable so that after senate session, they can all go & hobnob with each other, & be accepted by the liberal upper echelon of society.
John MCaine is such a man who thinks he needs the applause of the senate liberals for legitimacy, & wasn't MCaine flattered by the very thought of John Kerry thinking of allowing him to be his vice presidential candidate for the democratic party?
For over 40 years the liberal democrats controlled every facet of government, & now the monkey is off the back of the republicans, as the republicans were ALWAYS ignored, & forced to have liberal rubbish shoved down their throats.
Democrats had no illusions, & damn sure had NO intentions of sharing power, & did not with republicans when they owned all of government.
The arrogance of the democrats is really galling now, as THEY expect that they should have the republican majority sharing power with them now??
That is why their language is so vitreolic towards president Bush, & their madness in calling him a racist, a liar, a Nazi, & a murderer....it is because they are filled with nothing but hate & rage!
Its time to have the knockdown drag out fight in the senate that should have happened long ago; & lets ALLOW it to be televised too!
Lets have what the liberal democrats actually believe in, be heard BY the American public. Let them all be identified by their votes, & what they espouse for America, & above all, let them put their money where their mouths are by going PUBLIC, & no more guise, & double talk about issues that they so specialize in because THEY cannot ever be honest in what they believe in for fear of being tossed out on their as.ses, like so many of their democratic predicessors who have NOTHING in common with the average American majority anymore!
I would say, "it is high time to air it all out" in the senate, ..& to stop crying & whining & making up "phoney" stories about elections being stolen in a pathetic effort to garner sympathy by the uninformed, & ignorant who need a steady diet of conspiracy stories & bash Bush editorializing that gives only hope to the democratic party, ...cause' other than that, ..its all the democratic party has anymore!
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