It's time for Trump to concede and move on

[calamity]

They didn't try to identify the bogus ballots.

lol...."bogus ballots"

lmfao

 

[bongsaway]

In two weeks means I'm lying in gop speak. How many times have you heard the prez say something is going to happen in two weeks? Remember now august the first trump is going to unveil the gop healthcare plan.

I do however appreciate the rest of what you wrote it was reasonable.

 

[Rexedgar]

I saw what the left did to a fairly elected Trump, and I didn't like it one bit, but I am not any better than them if I follow the same path they took to derail Biden's presidency.

There are those that will say this:

 

[calamity]

In two weeks means I'm lying in gop speak. How many times have you heard the prez say something is going to happen in two weeks? Remember now august the first trump is going to unveil the gop healthcare plan.

I do however appreciate the rest of what you wrote it was reasonable.

I hear Trump is still working on that health plan. He'll get to it right after he perfects his golf swing.

 

[d0gbreath]

Should we draw straws to see who has to tell him?

 

[Xilnik]

Why should he have "taken his concerns to the courts as privately as possible"? Is he not allowed to announce his actions?

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Then you agree with other posters who believe he should be releasing all his evidence to the press and not keeping the evidence private within the courts?

Maybe instead of attacking me for agreeing with you, you should try to see that we agree on a few things.

 

[j brown's body]

GA recounted bogus ballots. It was a sham.

So fix it so it never happens again. Good luck with that.

 

[joko104]

Parting ways with most of the Trump supporters who think there was election fraud. It's crystal clear that there is no evidence. Supposedly, Trump's legal team has it and will prove their case in a court of law within the next two weeks, but it seems highly doubtful that any of their evidence will amount to a hill of beans.

I watched the damn left parading their wares, still parading their wares, and hatefully pretending Trump wasn't legitimately elected, blah, blah, and more blah for the last four years. I'm not going to be like them. Biden won. Time to give him a chance to succeed because if I personally don't want him to succeed, I want my country to fail. I'm not in that camp.

Though I didn't vote for Trump, (for my own personal reasons), I gave him every chance to prove me wrong. He did in the ways that I think is important for the country to go forward; the judicial SC picks, the economy, ending wars, and putting the needs of American workers first. He made mistakes and he triumphed despite a huge orchestrated wall of resistance up against him, but let's not also pretend that his predecessor or successor didn't or won't make mistakes.

I'll leave you with this editorial authored by The Washington Examiner that explains why President Trump should now move on, and concede. To me it's about putting all efforts forth on the GA. senate race...

All comments welcome.

It’s time for Trump to concede and move on - Washington Examiner

When President Trump refused to concede the election to Joe Biden in the immediate aftermath of Nov. 3, we argued that he had the right to mount legal challenges if he believed there had been irregularities, mistakes, fraud, or all three. Democratic objections and outrage were as hypocritical as...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Please link to your thread condemning Stacy Adams for refusing to concede the 2018 election, for which the Democratic Party has made her one of their top heroes. Bet you can't, can you?

Explain how the hell you know if there is any evidence or not? Oh that's right, CNN and MSNBC told you there isn't and you agree they are who decides who the president is and they decide all court cases too. Sad to see you join the pro-Venezuela take the country socialist by election fraud crowd. Of course, you'll be far more popular on the forum for joining the TDS crowd and sadly peer pressure controls most people. I will put you over in the hard core TDS partisan progressive Democrat column.

I understand you are rooting for Democrats to steal the Georgia senate seats too for a total successful criminal coup against the United States itself by the corporate-fascist plutocrats.

 

[Mycroft]

So fix it so it never happens again. Good luck with that.

Before we can "fix it so it never happens again", we have to correct the existing election fraud.

One step at a time, eh?

 

[Grand Mal]

The election isn't over until the fraud is dealt with.

Happening as we speak. What are we up to now, four state with dropped cases?

"Voters in four states who had brought longshot lawsuits to disrupt President-elect Joe Biden's win and went nowhere in court dropped their cases Monday morning.
The cases were short-lived in Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania federal courts, and fed into a pro-Donald Trump legal strategy to block Biden's presidential win before the Electoral College formalizes it."

Lawsuits that tried to disrupt Biden's wins in four states are withdrawn

Voters in four states who had brought longshot lawsuits to disrupt President-elect Joe Biden's win and went nowhere in court dropped their cases Monday morning.

www.cnn.com

Those were in federal courts. Remember what you said?

 

[joko104]

Then you agree with other posters who believe he should be releasing all his evidence to the press and not keeping the evidence private within the courts?

Maybe instead of attacking me for agreeing with you, you should try to see that we agree on a few things.

Neither he nor his legal team should spend one second trying to make their case to the plutocrats. Nothing would be more absurd.

Notice how most Democrats and Trump haters DEMAND elimination of the judicial system to be replaced by edicts from the richest corporations and people on earth who literally OWN "the press" as nothing but pathological lying corporate propaganda?

Sadly, most Americans do not realize how quickly they will destroy the future of the United States deliberately if they take control of the government. The United States is nothing but one of 195 of their regional corporate operations to control and manage.

 

[trouble13]

Of course, you're correct but do we really want our side to look like them?

What if the election was ripe with fraud. Are you ok with not investigating it because you think it looks bad on you?
I say let it play out, let the chips fall where they may. If Trump has not made a sufficient case by the deadline for states to certify then biden will be certified as the winner. If its still in court because of the complexity of it all we may not learn the truth till after the inauguration. We should at least know that future elections are being conducted fairly.

 

[joko104]

So fix it so it never happens again. Good luck with that.

There will be no "again." 2020 will be known ultimately in history as the year democracy ended in the USA, replaced with a corporate-plutocratic government, for which elections are as legitimate as in Venezuela - since the USA literally adopted Venezuelan run elections in the USA on Venezuelan voting equipment. There is no going back to democracy or capitalism. Not at least for many decades and countless millions upon millions of deaths - and then it wouldn't be going back. The USA as it was is gone, even regardless of how this goes. The only question is how fast does the crash come?

 

[AJG]

We knew by 7:00 Wed morning the election fraud was done.

So you're saying before an investigation was conducted or any evidence collected, Trump was justified declaring to the world that the election was rigged and that he easily wins if you count just the legal votes?

I'm not interested in your "what if".

Why? The only reasons I can think of is that you either don't care about the consequences, or you don't think there's any real possibility of Trump losing in the courts.

It is VERY possible every one of those "local judges" is a NeverTrumper. But the fact is, Trump told you months ago this election would be decided by the Supreme Court. He is correct. He knew the Trump haters would commit election fraud.

I have no problem with you believing in this possibility. What I do have a problem with is that you seem to be making assumptions based on possibilities you aren't even trying to substantiate. I would never make an argument here based on such a flimsy premise, because I know no one that disagrees with me would buy it.

 

[Carleen]

Please don't make the mistake that article writer makes. There is absolutely NO reason for the Trump campaign to present any evidence to the public. The public is not a party to their lawsuits. Public opinion will not affect the outcome of any lawsuits. Just because the Trump campaign won't detail their evidence in any public forum, that does NOT mean there is no evidence.

Instead of counseling giving up and conceding, I suggest you wait and see how it plays out.

It has played out and Biden has won. What Trump is doing now totally goes against what a transition of power represents. He is now making a fool of himself.

 

[joko104]

The linked article gives NO reason why Trump should concede and outright lies. In the Georgia audit, allowing checking to even see if the ballot is signed or the from a registered voter was refused.

If Biden is so incompetent he can't become president on January 22, 2021 without Trump endorsing and helping him, then Biden should concede he is too incompetent to be president. It is that simple.

Maybe if Democrats on the forum start 50 more essentially identical topic threads citing the published opinions of the plutocrats as proof it will make election fraud ok. That's what it seems some Democrats like the OPer thinks anyway.

 

[Xilnik]

What if the election was ripe with fraud. Are you ok with not investigating it because you think it looks bad on you?
I say let it play out, let the chips fall where they may. If Trump has not made a sufficient case by the deadline for states to certify then biden will be certified as the winner. If its still in court because of the complexity of it all we may not learn the truth till after the inauguration. We should at least know that future elections are being conducted fairly.

I honestly think most who oppose the investigations do so because of the way they are being handled publicly. Trump easily could have said, "We have received some concerning reports from polling station watchers that we are taking very seriously. We will be handling those cases through our excellent judicial system to make sure this election and future elections are secure." He could have then launched his investigations and made announcements as to how those cases were ruled if judges and justices ruled in his favor. Accusing the Democratic Party of stealing the election for Biden without verified proof, the proof that many are waiting for courts to verify and rule on, is harmful to our election system and Americans' trust in that system.

 

[Bullseye]

Parting ways with most of the Trump supporters who think there was election fraud. It's crystal clear that there is no evidence. Supposedly, Trump's legal team has it and will prove their case in a court of law within the next two weeks, but it seems highly doubtful that any of their evidence will amount to a hill of beans.

I watched the damn left parading their wares, still parading their wares, and hatefully pretending Trump wasn't legitimately elected, blah, blah, and more blah for the last four years. I'm not going to be like them. Biden won. Time to give him a chance to succeed because if I personally don't want him to succeed, I want my country to fail. I'm not in that camp.

Though I didn't vote for Trump, (for my own personal reasons), I gave him every chance to prove me wrong. He did in the ways that I think is important for the country to go forward; the judicial SC picks, the economy, ending wars, and putting the needs of American workers first. He made mistakes and he triumphed despite a huge orchestrated wall of resistance up against him, but let's not also pretend that his predecessor or successor didn't or won't make mistakes.

I'll leave you with this editorial authored by The Washington Examiner that explains why President Trump should now move on, and concede. To me it's about putting all efforts forth on the GA. senate race...

All comments welcome.

It’s time for Trump to concede and move on - Washington Examiner

When President Trump refused to concede the election to Joe Biden in the immediate aftermath of Nov. 3, we argued that he had the right to mount legal challenges if he believed there had been irregularities, mistakes, fraud, or all three. Democratic objections and outrage were as hypocritical as...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

I respect your right to voice your opinion, Trix. I’m giving Trump’s team a little more leeway, however. my math and programming background aren’t satisfied as yet. I do, however think Trump and his team should start cutting biden’s boys in on briefings, etc.

 

[Rudy]

Trump will never concede, and he has already stopped doing his job as POTUS, all he does now is tweet and golf.

Not much of a change actually.

 

[calamity]

I respect your right to voice your opinion, Trix. I’m giving Trump’s team a little more leeway, however. my math and programming background aren’t satisfied as yet. I do, however think Trump and his team should start cutting biden’s boys in on briefings, etc.

Math?

306 is higher than 232. It should be easy to figure that one out.

 

[Bullseye]

Math?

306 is higher than 232. It should be easy to figure that one out.

Idiocy taken to new levels. Well, done, cal.

 

[Mycroft]

So you're saying before an investigation was conducted or any evidence collected, Trump was justified declaring to the world that the election was rigged and that he easily wins if you count just the legal votes?

Hell yes. He was justified in saying it back in September.

 

[calamity]

Hell yes. He was justified in saying it back in September.

lol....Hey, I hear Barr watermarked the "Real Ballots."

 

[Mycroft]

It has played out and Biden has won. What Trump is doing now totally goes against what a transition of power represents. He is now making a fool of himself.

There is no transition of power until the election is decided. That hasn't happened yet.

 

[calamity]

There is no transition of power until the election is decided. That hasn't happened yet.

Oh, it's pretty much over. All that is left now is pageantry.