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Out of curiosity, do you think Trump is going to push through with his tariffs?
So we have been hearing for the last 9 years, do you ever get tired of being proven wrong?
Good post, makes sense.Was it a big loss? Depends on how one defines big. Losing the presidency is big, but in other terms this was one close election. Trump currently leads Harris by 1.8 points in the popular vote. Only 2 elections since 1900 has been closer, 1960 and 2000. Yes, the electoral college was a runaway. The house, the GOP entered this election with a 222-213 advantage. As of this AM, the republicans have a 218-211 lead. 218 gives the GOP control. There’re 6 seats to be determined. 3 held by democrats, 3 by republicans. Both parties flipped 7 seats. You can’t get any closer. The senate, yes, the republicans gained 3 seats. Those 3 seats are in deep red states which shouldn’t have been represented by a democrat to begin with. The republicans may have a 4th in Pennsylvania. It should be noted that in the 5 swing states that held both a presidential and senate race, Trump winning all 5 states, but 4 elected democratic senators, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada and Arizona. The 5th, Pennsylvania is going to a recount.
That takes care of Big. For me the number one and biggest reason the democrats lost, poor job performance by Biden and company. No sitting president with an overall job performance of below 50% has won reelection nor has his replacement won the next election. Biden had a 41% overall job approval, 56% disapproval with 63% of all Americans thinking Biden and his administration had this country headed in the wrong direction, off on the wrong track. With numbers like that, the republicans should have won in a landslide, bigger than big, but they didn’t. Since 1950 we’ve had 8 elections where the sitting president had an overall job approval of below 50%. 1952, Truman’s replacement Stevenson lost to Eisenhower, 1968, LBJ’s replacement Humphrey lost to Nixon. 1976 Ford lost reelection, 1980 Carter lost reelection, 1992 G.H.W. Bush lost reelection, 2008 G.W. Bush’s replacement McCain lost to Obama, 2020 Trump lost reelection, 2024 Biden’s replacement Harris lost to Trump. Everything else about this election will fall back under the poor job performance.
So then why not a bigger than big win for the republicans, a landslide? I say it’s because they went with Trump, a candidate that a majority of Americans dislike. That almost any other republican would have led the GOP to a landslide win considering the above numbers.
You may win the House in the midterms, only because there is no top of the ticket.Can you promise to stick around until 2026?
You may win the House in the midterms, only because there is no top of the ticket.
But when it comes to 2028, who do you have, really?
He says that he is, and I support that, it's a negotiating tactic to get China to open up to some of the things we have for sale they use tariffs on.Out of curiosity, do you think Trump is going to push through with his tariffs?
They have AOC. She is now the most gifted, intelligent, effective, trustworthy and authentic politician the left has now.You may win the House in the midterms, only because there is no top of the ticket.
But when it comes to 2028, who do you have, really?
Brexit was a very good idea, you just have not come to realize it yet. Economic and policy independence is just what the doctor ordered. Just do not expect overnight repair of all the damage done under the EU.I'll take my nation for example, Brexit was a bad idea, people were told it was a bad idea, they still voted for it and 8 years later it's still clear as day, it was a very, very bad idea.
Sounds like TDS.Voting for Trump was a very, very bad idea and a very stupid thing to do.
Whether you're gonna admit it when shit goes sideways, I don't know, probably not because it's a cult
Whoever it is, how are they going to bridge the disconnected between your woke base and a center-left electorate you need to win in the general election?If I could predict the future I'd be a wealthy man.
Whoever it is, how are they going to bridge the disconnected between your woke base and a center-left electorate you need to win in the general election?
He says that he is, and I support that, it's a negotiating tactic to get China to open up to some of the things we have for sale they use tariffs on.
Brexit was a very good idea, you just have not come to realize it yet. Economic and policy independence is just what the doctor ordered. Just do not expect overnight repair of all the damage done under the EU.
Warning: Mayer uses the F-word in his commentary.
"It's amazing how an election loss, even as big as this one, still doesn't put a dent in the thinking that lost it."
Bill Mayer, with a very sarcastic tone and lots of hyperbole, nailed why the Democrats lost the election. If they don't change, they keep losing. Isn't this what some of us have been saying to those who continue to double down in the defense of their team? He does not defend Trump or his supporters, just to be clear. He's telling the Democrats to stop digging their holes and learn from their mistakes. The entire party has become nothing but a Portlandia sketch. Take one week to ask what you did wrong.
If he thinks that wise, sure, why not.?
What about the 20% blanket tariffs he talked about?
I define it as Trump winning the votes of a lot of Democrats fed up with the loons at the top of the party.Out of curiosity, how would you define the Dem senators who won throughout the swing states?
If he thinks that wise, sure, why not.
I know it means 20% higher prices, but so do corporate and business taxes.
Sometimes you got to take a hit to win in the long term. Either we start making those products here again, or China stops trying to take advantage of our poor trade deals, and China is not the only one.
I define it as Trump winning the votes of a lot of Democrats fed up with the loons at the top of the party.
But when it comes to 2028, who do you have, really?
Was it a big loss? Depends on how one defines big. Losing the presidency is big, but in other terms this was one close election. Trump currently leads Harris by 1.8 points in the popular vote. Only 2 elections since 1900 has been closer, 1960 and 2000. Yes, the electoral college was a runaway. The house, the GOP entered this election with a 222-213 advantage. As of this AM, the republicans have a 218-211 lead. 218 gives the GOP control. There’re 6 seats to be determined. 3 held by democrats, 3 by republicans. Both parties flipped 7 seats. You can’t get any closer. The senate, yes, the republicans gained 3 seats. Those 3 seats are in deep red states which shouldn’t have been represented by a democrat to begin with. The republicans may have a 4th in Pennsylvania. It should be noted that in the 5 swing states that held both a presidential and senate race, Trump winning all 5 states, but 4 elected democratic senators, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada and Arizona. The 5th, Pennsylvania is going to a recount.
That takes care of Big. For me the number one and biggest reason the democrats lost, poor job performance by Biden and company. No sitting president with an overall job performance of below 50% has won reelection nor has his replacement won the next election. Biden had a 41% overall job approval, 56% disapproval with 63% of all Americans thinking Biden and his administration had this country headed in the wrong direction, off on the wrong track. With numbers like that, the republicans should have won in a landslide, bigger than big, but they didn’t. Since 1950 we’ve had 8 elections where the sitting president had an overall job approval of below 50%. 1952, Truman’s replacement Stevenson lost to Eisenhower, 1968, LBJ’s replacement Humphrey lost to Nixon. 1976 Ford lost reelection, 1980 Carter lost reelection, 1992 G.H.W. Bush lost reelection, 2008 G.W. Bush’s replacement McCain lost to Obama, 2020 Trump lost reelection, 2024 Biden’s replacement Harris lost to Trump. Everything else about this election will fall back under the poor job performance.
So then why not a bigger than big win for the republicans, a landslide? I say it’s because they went with Trump, a candidate that a majority of Americans dislike. That almost any other republican would have led the GOP to a landslide win considering the above numbers.
Warning: Mayer uses the F-word in his commentary.
"It's amazing how an election loss, even as big as this one, still doesn't put a dent in the thinking that lost it."
Bill Mayer, with a very sarcastic tone and lots of hyperbole, nailed why the Democrats lost the election. If they don't change, they keep losing. Isn't this what some of us have been saying to those who continue to double down in the defense of their team? He does not defend Trump or his supporters, just to be clear. He's telling the Democrats to stop digging their holes and learn from their mistakes. The entire party has become nothing but a Portlandia sketch. Take one week to ask what you did wrong.
Yes, that is EXACTLY the sort of myopic simple mindedness in question.Bottom line- voting for Trump was a lot more stupid than voting democrat...........................no one voter should need campaigning to know that
I am a Republican..............just pointing out the obvious, with no bias on my part.....Love that kind of thinking by the Democrats. I encourage you to keep it up!
I agree, but I don't care if the Dems win, I am just stating the truth. I thought trumpers liked a person who "tells it like it is", like trump...............right???Yes, that is EXACTLY the sort of myopic simple mindedness in question.
They kind of had to stick with Trump. He's got the mob on his side, which not just frightened off much challenge, but he would have told to stay home on Election Day.
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