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ballantine said:
This is a failure of educational policy, not policing.

The police are/were simply doing their jobs. They're required to check out stuff like this.

It's the teacher's fault primarily, and I'm guessing the reason she did that is because there was a policy in place, to that effect.

That policy is the problem, it's institutionalized paranoia, is what it is.

It's the same thing that used to get you questioned for bringing "subversive literature" to school.

The jack*sses in our government think they can control who was the ability to learn things and get smart?

I don't think so. Not in a million gazillion years.

That's why I keep saying, this current establishment needs to go, and quickly too. They're getting stupid. Beyond stupid - they're getting downright dangerous.
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I dunno, the police did arrest the kid and dragged his ass to a juvenile detention center, which is where his father picked him up.
 
matchlight said:
I do not accept commie propaganda intended to slander the United States as fact. Muslims living in the U.S. have generally been tolerated at least as well as Jews living here, for example.
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So ignore reality because it doesnt reinforce your prejudices? Are you really a lawyer?
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
Really don't think this is an ethnic thing.
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People who don't understand "tinkerers" always assume the worst.

Have experienced this, although the law didn't get involved.
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Do you think that a White Christian named George would have been treated like this?

:lol:

We've had shoe bombs and underwear bombs, why aren't students arrested for wearing those items?
 
Lol. You see folks...it takes a police state to enforce multiculturalism. You cant have one without the other. Thats one of its primary missions..to foster distrust.
 
JC Callender said:
An arabic kid shows up to school with a briefcase full of wires that looks nothing like a clock and everyone who had anything to do with questioning it is a RACIST! lol

Chill out people, isn't Texas where that workplace violence thing happened with Hasan. It isn't a bomb and now this innocent kid is going to get spoiled like crazy, including a trip to the White House, and good for him!
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It's not that they asked him what it was, that's completely reasonable to investigate, the problem is that even after they determined it was a harmless clock, they arrested him then suspended him. How is that a rational position and why would you defend such a thing?

JC Callender said:
You can't say liberals aren't compassionate. I mean, it takes a heart of gold and real moral courage to crucify a teacher for reporting suspicious activity in the form of a suitcase filled with wires and a small digital clock attached to it?
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Once again, you are incredibly misinformed about the situation. Nobody says they shouldn't have looked at it. It was their reaction once they found out it was harmless that was atrocious.

Bram Vulk said:
Lol. You see folks...it takes a police state to enforce multiculturalism. You cant have one without the other. Thats one of its primary missions..to foster distrust.
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What police state? All I see is a ridiculous overreaction from an islamophobic and ignorant state. I mean what are you suggesting here? Should we have the military throw out all Americans who aren't white conservative Christians so we don't have any multiculturalism problems? Multiculturalism requires you to mind your own business and respect the rights of your neighbor, it's the exact opposite of needing force.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
It's not that they asked him what it was, that's completely reasonable to investigate, the problem is that even after they determined it was a harmless clock, they arrested him then suspended him. How is that a rational position and why would you defend such a thing?



Once again, you are incredibly misinformed about the situation. Nobody says they shouldn't have looked at it. It was their reaction once they found out it was harmless that was atrocious.



What police state? All I see is a ridiculous overreaction from an islamophobic and ignorant state. I mean what are you suggesting here? Should we have the military throw out all Americans who aren't white conservative Christians so we don't have any multiculturalism problems? Multiculturalism requires you to mind your own business and respect the rights of your neighbor, it's the exact opposite of needing force.
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Who determined that? You expect an average teacher or cop to know how to design a bomb?
 
Bram Vulk said:
Lol. You see folks...it takes a police state to enforce multiculturalism. You cant have one without the other. Thats one of its primary missions..to foster distrust.
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This is one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Bravo.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
Really don't think this is an ethnic thing.
People who don't understand "tinkerers" always assume the worst.

Have experienced this, although the law didn't get involved.
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This was made for a school robotics club, how many other members of this club do you belive where able to make things with wires without being arrested?
 
tecoyah said:
This is an unfortunate side effect of the overreaction seen toward Middle Eastern peoples, and specifically Muslims due to the perceived danger posed by their very existence. There is a new racism in western countries toward everything Middle Eastern and Islamic...I admit to having a bit of it myself.
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bull**** "zero tolerance" policy, if this was a white kid hillary and obama wouldn't have said ****.
 
ballantine said:
They don't want you building bombs unless you have a security clearance.

God.... Prohibition rears its ugly head.... again!

Terrorists are the new commies. Wonder who's going to be the new McCarthy?
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Should I take you seriously at all?
I mean, by the way your post was written, I shouldn't.
 
Ikari said:
When I was a kid, I built some shady ****. A little knowledge of physics and chemistry go a long way. Thankfully, no chargers have been brought, but it shouldn't have come to that. Kids well versed in science, math, and engineering should be encouraged.
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I did as well, but 99/100 times nothing bad happens.
Still though, compare the Mr.Wizard chemistry of the 50's and 60's to today.
Modern hobby chemistry sets are a joke and merely possessing lab ware is enough reasonable suspicion for LEOs.
 
JC Callender said:
You can't say liberals aren't compassionate. I mean, it takes a heart of gold and real moral courage to crucify a teacher for reporting suspicious activity in the form of a suitcase filled with wires and a small digital clock attached to it?
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It wasn't a suitcase filled with wires. He built a digital clock using a pencil case and even the science teacher realized it was just a clock. But also probably knew the irrationality of others and told him not to show it off. But the kid build a cool little clock and being a kid wanted to show it off. So the school freaks out, apparently cannot recognize a pencil case clock as just a clock, lol, and call the police. Kid gets hauled into Juve and finger printed, etc. All because he's smarter than other kids his age. America needs more smart kids, not less.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
I did as well, but 99/100 times nothing bad happens.
Still though, compare the Mr.Wizard chemistry of the 50's and 60's to today.
Modern hobby chemistry sets are a joke and merely possessing lab ware is enough reasonable suspicion for LEOs.
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Probably. I remember in High School I had things like the Anarchists Cookbook, the Poor Man's James Bond. I built flaming tennis ball launchers, found a way to make an exploding tennis ball in Jr. High which me and my friends snuck into the basket of the tennis team during practice. That was hilarious. Those are probably the least of the things I made.

In today's age, that's a trip to GITMO.
 
Ikari said:
Probably. I remember in High School I had things like the Anarchists Cookbook, the Poor Man's James Bond. I built flaming tennis ball launchers, found a way to make an exploding tennis ball in Jr. High which me and my friends snuck into the basket of the tennis team during practice. That was hilarious. Those are probably the least of the things I made.

In today's age, that's a trip to GITMO.
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Today there are some cool, more science orientated books.
However they don't come with the regents or lab ware.

And even possessing some regents is practically a crime in of itself.
Same goes for lab ware.

Possession with intent, type charges.
 
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