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An automatic weapon is generally more deadly than one that isn't.
That's some first-degree bull there. The type of a weapon shooting rate (automatic/semi-automatic/etc.) does not concern its lethality, and it is chosen on the sole basis of necessity, per situation.
As I said automatic/machine pistols are mainly used by SF units and hostage rescuing units such as the American SWAT, the Israeli YAMAM and many others, for sakes of availability.
I do not know if the IDF was clear about their nature from the beginning, but what I do know is that the media and several of the posters here kept only referring to them as pistols and implying or outright stating that this meant they were not given much to defend themselves. The fact what they were giving was what they would often carry to defend themselves in such a situation and was an automatic pistol as opposed to a regular pistol does mean a lot.
You're deliberately misleading and promoting lies at this point.
The IDF stated that the soldiers have carried pistols. The soldiers have (at least some) carried micro-Uzis. Micro-Uzis are pistols. Hence, soldiers have indeed carried pistols.
Your constant attempts to present it as something that it is not, even when this is the third time I'm forced to correct you and remind you that a micro-Uzi is indeed a pistol, may only point towards the unavoidable conclusion that you are recognizing that truth is not on your side and yet are continuing to bring up the same invalid points, on purpose, for the sake of misleading.
So once more, I'll repeat, the IDF claimed they've brought in pistols, the IDF have brought in pistols, at no part were the IDF misleading in their comments about their soldiers' equipment.
That would pretty much be conclusive evidence rather than simply compelling.
Wrong, conclusive evidence would be a video showing soldiers shooting a person when there is no room for doubt that the said person was posing no threat of life at all to the soldiers or anyone else.
My example was of a compelling evidence, a video that leaves room for doubt, yet strongly suggests something.
However, there actually was such a video in one case.
No there wasn't, but feel free to post this video where a person is seen as he is being shot on board of the Mavi Marmara ship.
Keep in mind to refer to a renowned media source.
What do you think is more likely? That a soldier who was less than half a meter behind a man who had already been shot twice in the leg needed to blow the guy's brain out to stop him from attacking another soldier in front of him with a knife, or that he was shot in the back of the head in an execution-style killing?
If likelihood is what we're speaking on then I believe it is far more likely that at least some of the activists injured/killed where shot by the activists themselves, as they were aiming for the soldiers. Could also explain a backshot, and would be most likely if only because every soldier was outnumbered by at least 6 "peace activists" lynching him and trying to kill him.
I do not leave out any possibility though, and I'm not willing to play the guessing game and pick one while ignoring the others.
Actually it is very likely that at least one was not posing any threat to anyone. Do not just presume that because a person was killed that said person deserved to die. Many people were injured. Did they all deserve to be shot? In these sorts of situations people can be shot accidentally and even die as a result as well as people being shot intentionally due to some misunderstanding. Simply saying the people who were killed were posing a threat is irrational.
I've seen a video where nearly a hundred people are attacking soldiers, so yes, it is very likely that a huge percentage if not all of the injured and killed individuals have indeed posed one threat or another. I understand that, according to the soldiers of course, the fire was very selective, and that they've mainly shot people in the legs.
Nearly all of the activists who were injured were released 2-4 days after they were taken to the Israeli hospitals, and the red cross said that at the time that their situation is very good, so leg injuries are very likely.
Well, find the article. Them being members of IHH proves essentially nothing.
Not at all, the meeting between the IHH members and Hamas was noted in the Jihad website as a meeting between two organizations.
If dressing up like a soldier and posing with a gun for a picture makes someone a blood-thirsty terrorist then my town must be crawling with blood-thirsty terrorists.
If your town is filled with people who dress up like Hamas terrorist militants, take pictures with the Hamas terrorist militants while holding their AK-47s, rocket launchers, etc, while they are praising the terrorist organization of Hamas and its actions as "resistance", then yes, your town is undoubtedly filled with blood-thirsty terrorist-supporters.