Democrat Support Dwindling for Jewish State
A Gallup poll released earlier this month shows that 59% of Americans support Israel while only 15% favor the Palestinians. At first glance these numbers are very encouraging. Support for Israel is at its highest point since the Gulf War, while support for the Palestinians has only been lower immediately after September 11. Friends of the Jewish state should rejoice at news of this overwhelming support. However, one figure from this poll shows that support for Israel can be compromised with one election.
Last week’s results showed that 77% of Republicans support Israel. This number is not surprising since the Bush administration and the current Republican controlled congress have supported Israel like a mother's unconditional love for her child. The discouraging figure is that support among Democrats has dwindled to 50%. Friends of the Jewish state need to ask “why.”
cherokee said:I predict this will be in the basement in no time...
It was a nation that was not "born", it was more like just picked a spot and moved the Jews there, because many of the "world powers" forced the palestinians out. I do not think that was "right", or creating a Jewish state over a Muslim one. Because I support no theocratic states, which is exactly what Israel is and majority of Palestinians want. So I fit in the "no preference" category.Israel, a nation born from tragedy and Europe's guilt trip, must be supported, must remain as a nation.
So are the ones that cheered speaking for all Palestinians? Or just a few? In any country many cheered about those things, many Israelis probably did.The Palestinians cheered when the Islamics destroyed out World Trade Center and murdered thousands of us.
Why?Make Jerusalem an international special city and place the UN there.
Palestine as with Iran also believe Israel does not have a right to exist, and wish to destroy them, do you support this as well?Willoughby said:i probably lean towards palestine but i choose no preference because i believe that both have done things bad. Palestine govs. have supported terrorists whilst israel carries out extra-judicial asassination and illegal taking of palestinion land. i come out slighty in favour of palestine because of the fact that i feel they are hard done by by the US and the international community
Volker,Volker said:Palestine.
When our president went to Israel last year, officials told him something like
"There will never be normal relationships between Israel and Germany".
Israelian parlamentarians had problems with him speaking German in the Knesseth.
I have never heard a Palestinians official say, there will be no normal relationships between Palestine and Germany or that we shouldn't speak German, then they are around.
are we not adding the US to that!Germany, Iran, and Palestine all have Aryan views when it comes to the Jewish people,
Although we have Aryans here, It is not or has ever been a matter of U.S. policy to have Aryan views in our intrest.Willoughby said:are we not adding the US to that!
The Aryans are the ancestors of some peoples in Iran and Central Asia with Persians being one of them.ThePhoenix said:Volker,
Germany, Iran, and Palestine all have Aryan views when it comes to the Jewish people, As a matter of fact Iran (Persia) is the home of the Aryans. There comes a time for the Jewish people to forgive what has happened to their nation but they can never forget it as well.
Yes, this is what Germans do, I guess, especially the government.ThePhoenix said:If the Germans really do feel what they did in the past to the Jews was wrong they would except the conditions set upon them for now, and when trust was established they would most likely be lifted.
We do not support them, because they are against Israel.ThePhoenix said:As long as Germans support a nation against Israel, there will never be normal relations between them. So, it really hurts me to say to you that I am not surprised by your statement.
Volker said:I don't belong to this minority.
This sentence does not make sense, because Palestinians don't carry on the Nazi tradition.Gardener said:Yet you support those who carry on the Nazi tradition anyway.
If something I wrote reads like this, then probably I made a mistake in expression. Or maybe you misinterpreted something. I'm pretty sure, I did not want to express this. Something like "Palestinians are dependant upon only one factor -- their hatred of Jews -- " is low level propaganda and I would not subscribe to such stuff.Gardener said:In another thread, even when you admit the "Palestinians" are a completely modern construct whose peoplehood is entirely dependant upon only one factor -- their hatred of Jews -- you still support them 100%.
I do not support Nazism, I never did.Gardener said:One cannot simultaneously support Naziism while claiming to oppose it.
Comrade Brian said:It was a nation that was not "born", it was more like just picked a spot and moved the Jews there, because many of the "world powers" forced the Palestinians out.
I do not believe this to be totally true.. I do know that the Jewish people had to buy their country, piece by piece. And I strongly feel that they deserve a break by the nations of the world - of which I still hold a poor opinion. I do not think that was "right", or creating a Jewish state over a Muslim one. Hard, if not impossible to do the "right thing". Bear in mind, that as a state, Palestine never existed; much as Afghanistan today...
Because I support no theocratic states, which is exactly what Israel is and majority of Palestinians want. So I fit in the "no preference" category. IMO, it matters not if it is a theocratic or a non-God communist state(Cuba); these people have a right to exist !
So are the ones that cheered speaking for all Palestinians? Or just a few? In any country many cheered about those things, many Israelis probably did.
More male-bovine feces ! In any nation there are the extremists, then there are their supporters, followed by those who do not care.
I see this, and lump them togeter..Actually they lump themselves together.
How many Islamic have placed their lives on the line and publicly spoken out ??? How many have seen a "basic wrong" and turned in Osama bin Laden ??
Why?
Volker said:This sentence does not make sense, because Palestinians don't carry on the Nazi tradition.
Volker said:If something I wrote reads like this, then probably I made a mistake in expression. Or maybe you misinterpreted something. I'm pretty sure, I did not want to express this. Something like "Palestinians are dependant upon only one factor -- their hatred of Jews -- " is low level propaganda and I would not subscribe to such stuff.
Maybe you find the link, I don't know, which posting you talk about.
Volker said:I do not support Nazism, I never did.
Even though I think, you can keep apart Palestinians and Nazi's, you try to mix them for propaganda reasons. This is a cheap trick, try something else.
Willoughby said:are we not adding the US to that!
HighSpeed said:I support neither. They both will have to learn to co-exist together, whether they like it or not. They both want the same land, why not share it?
Not knowing about your conspiracy theories doesn't make me ignorant or disengenuous.Gardener said:Are you merely ignorant of the history of the Muslim Brotherhood and the genesis of Hamas, or are you being disengenuous here?
The link would be good to find out, what went wrong, if there was something wrong.Gardener said:I have a very slow connection, and do not have the time to look up the link. The discussion involved the creation of this Palestinian people (out of whole cloth), and within the discussion you admitted the Palestinians were a completely modern invention and that it was their reaction to zionism -- i/e Jews -- that formed the basis of their peoplehood.
I don't want to comment the rest of your posting, because of your lack of manners.Gardener said:Again, you are either acting through ignorance or deceit in your failure ...
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