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Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

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Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent - Middle East - World - The Independent


Damn, just damn. I'm normally pretty outspoken in defense of the Israeli regime... but there's just no excuse for this.
 
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Smooth Israel. Real smooth.
 
Viktyr Gehrig said:
Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent - Middle East - World - The Independent



Damn, just damn. I'm normally pretty outspoken in defense of the Israeli regime... but there's just no excuse for this.
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This is damned wrong.

This appears to be the problem from Israel's POV.

If that's the case then they should have another look at the Law of Return, but the response is certainly not to sterilize women.
 
Seems to me that there may be some hyperbole to paint a different picture than what it actually is.


Haaretz published an extract from a letter sent by the Ministry of Health to units administering the drug. Doctors were told “not to renew prescriptions for Depo Provera for women of Ethiopian origin if for any reason there is concern that they might not understand the ramifications of the treatment”.​
 
Grant said:
This is damned wrong.

This appears to be the problem from Israel's POV.


If that's the case then they should have another look at the Law of Return, but the response is certainly not to sterilize women.
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"sterilize"?
More hyperbole?
 
With a devastating 30 incidents out of 100,000 immigrants, I'm sure this will be good reason to drop Israel as an ally and take up with Saudi Arabia instead. Mo' money, mo' money.

Can't they just abort them like we do?
 
Can't have a bunch of darkies running around Jerusalem calling themselves Jews.
 
spanky said:
Can't have a bunch of darkies running around Jerusalem calling themselves Jews.
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Holy ****!
Will folks pay attention to that which came before?

Haaretz published an extract from a letter sent by the Ministry of Health to units administering the drug. Doctors were told “not to renew prescriptions for Depo Provera for women of Ethiopian origin if for any reason there is concern that they might not understand the ramifications of the treatment”.​

AND


specklebang said:
With a devastating 30 incidents out of 100,000 immigrants, ...
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Before assuming that Israel was giving birth control en masse to Ethiopian Jews without their consent I would like to see the official report, not media ramblings.
 

Well, the number was 30 because that was the number of Ethiopians the journalist interviewed. The hit rate was 100%. Wonder what it would be if they interviewed all 100k?
 
digsbe said:
Before assuming that Israel was giving birth control en masse to Ethiopian Jews without their consent I would like to see the official report, not media ramblings.
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Yes, I'm sure the official report will not be a white wash.
 
spanky said:
Yes, I'm sure the official report will not be a white wash.
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Yeah, and the media assertion that Israel sterilized 100,000 without their consent and them knowing based off of media sources is entirely accurate and should be accepted :roll:

People with a bias against Israel or a desire to believe that they are an evil nation will accept anything from any source that is critical of the nation without digging any deeper and trying to find facts without the spin associated with it.
 
spanky said:
Well, the number was 30 because that was the number of Ethiopians the journalist interviewed. The hit rate was 100%. Wonder what it would be if they interviewed all 100k?
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Haaretz published an extract from a letter sent by the Ministry of Health to units administering the drug. Doctors were told “not to renew prescriptions for Depo Provera for women of Ethiopian origin if for any reason there is concern that they might not understand the ramifications of the treatment”.​

And you do not understand the above?
 
Always check the source of the story, if this came Iranian media then I say take the information with a crate of salt
 
Depo-Prova is a temporary birth control method. As new, impoverished immigrants, it might not be the best time to have more children. It is not sterilization.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Always check the source of the story, if this came Iranian media then I say take the information with a crate of salt
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It was based on the investigative report of an Israeli Jew.
 

Just so I get this straight, and investigative report turned up the evidence, Israel denied it, when shown more proof they admitted it and THEN changed their policy.

I guess it never happened.
 
I would like to see more information before judging what happened. I will state that if the shots were administered without the knowledge and consent of those receiving them, those responsible should be removed from the health industry, barred from further medical practice, and subject to compensating those who received the shots and for any criminal prosecution to which they could be held accountable.
 
Since everyone seems more interested in tossing about various accusations:


Israel admits Ethiopian women were given birth control shots Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper
 
specklebang said:
It is not sterilization.
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It's temporary sterilization. (sterilization does not need to be permanent in order to be sterlization)

And if it was done without the consent of those who were temporarily sterlized, it doesn't matter what intellectual acrobatics one goes through to justify the action, it's simply wrong.
 
specklebang said:
With a devastating 30 incidents out of 100,000 immigrants, I'm sure this will be good reason to drop Israel as an ally and take up with Saudi Arabia instead. Mo' money, mo' money.

Can't they just abort them like we do?
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tensions between the two communities is nothing new, and only have seemed to increase with israel's recent issues with illegal immagration from Africa

Ethiopian Jews' feeling that they have been wronged is not detached from reality, a reality that we must change," Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said Sunday.


Olmert: Ethiopian Jews are right to feel discriminated against - Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper

not sure why people get so bent out of shape about this stuff on both sides of the isle. It doesn't amount to Israelis being Nazis, and it surely doesn't mean everyone who takes an interest in the subject wants to reopen the gas chambers. People are racist, the state is trying to deal with the issue, get over it people
 
Notice the word games the supporters of this heinous policy of the State of Israel employ.

Well, it WASN'T sterilization! (no, it was forced birth control, like it makes a difference).

It was TEMPORARY sterilization...oops, I mean birth control!

PROVE it was done without their consent! ("It's just an inoculation. If you want entry into Israel you HAVE to take this or you won't be admitted, we don't need a bunch of darkies running around the Temple. TAKE THE RED PILL MOFO OR YOU'RE GOING BACK TO YOUR MUD HUT!")
 
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"Morning sickness vaccine" ~ pretty clever. :lol:
 
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