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Israel Fears ICC to Issue Arrest Warrants for Netanyahu, Other Top Officials

Sword 1944 said:
Did the Jewish fighters in the Warsaw Ghetto use jews as human shields, i can't believe the lies and Bullshit Israeli supporters come out with.
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Only Zionist nutters and their ultra-nationalist supporters believe the laughably transparent crap that Israeli propaganda expects the gullible to believe.
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
When you are well aware of the fact that the people who are shooting at you are just as happy to be shooting at unarmed women, children, and infants as they are to be shooting at armed male adults., there really isn't much "shielding quotient" in using them as "human shields", is there?

While the Hamas attack was a cowardly and highly despicable blow, the Israelis are using the fact that the IDF simply doesn't cared if it is shooting at unarmed women, children, and infants as a "force multiplier" along the lines of "You kill one of our soldiers and we'll kill 20 of your women and children."
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The latter being a tactic enthusiastically employed by the Nazis as they toured Europe.
 
The US nor Israel are members or signatories of the ICC
 
zincwarrior said:
How would they "enforce it?"

Are there warrants for HAMAS leadership also? Just wondering.
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Half the Western world already treats Hamas as a terrorist organization despite the IDF having stacked an entire order of magnitude more innocent bodies.

Meanwhile the ACTUAL terrorist continues to be funded by our own tax dollars.
 
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snakestretcher said:
No surprise. Neither want to accept responsibility for violating international laws. Nicaragua vs. United States 1986 comes to mind. In this case it was the ICJ finding for Nicaragua, against the US.

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Nicaragua v. United States - Wikipedia

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A fictional body maintained by a group of nations that doesn't answer to any public and pretends it has jurisdiction over other countries affairs is not something that should be granted legitimacy.
It goes against the values of democracy where such bodies must be elected directly or indirectly by the people and answer to the people.
The ICC is only making itself even more irrelevant by succumbing to the wishes of mostly dictatorships and theocracies and their ill intentioned interests.
 
Apocalypse said:
A fictional body maintained by a group of nations that doesn't answer to any public and pretends it has jurisdiction over other countries affairs is not something that should be granted legitimacy.
It goes against the values of democracy where such bodies must be elected directly or indirectly by the people and answer to the people.
The ICC is only making itself even more irrelevant by succumbing to the wishes of mostly dictatorships and theocracies and their ill intentioned interests.
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Yeah, it's so fictional that the ICC convicted war criminal Slobodan Milosevic, and is currently prosecuting Joseph Kony and others. You have no idea.
 
snakestretcher said:
Yeah, it's so fictional that the ICC convicted war criminal Slobodan Milosevic, and is currently prosecuting Joseph Kony and others.
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Doing something good does not reject being a non-legitimate body.
The question of legitimacy is separate to what actions the body takes.
 
Apocalypse said:
Doing something good does not reject being a non-legitimate body.
The question of legitimacy is separate to what actions the body takes.
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Stupid post. Is convicting war criminals legitimate? Clearly not in your mind. Go away and do something productive. Your towering intellect is clearly wasted here.
 
snakestretcher said:
Stupid post. Is convicting war criminals legitimate? Clearly not in your mind. Go away and do something productive. Your towering intellect is clearly wasted here.
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Literally every other post of yours is throwing a tantrum like a four years old.
 
snakestretcher said:
So what? I was asked a question ('what are the Brits doing?'), and responded. You have a problem with that?
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Looking at the way the British Regime do business these days they would deploy those troops without a debate and vote in Parliament, when Galloway asked that question Sunak said they don't talk about operational matters.
 
snakestretcher said:
So what? I was asked a question ('what are the Brits doing?'), and responded. You have a problem with that?
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Yes, because you claimed the US is Isreal's bitch. It doesnt look like the UK is any better. So there!

Sword 1944 said:
That dock will be used to transport Palestinians out, aid my arse.
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We'll see.
 
PoS said:
Yes, because you claimed the US is Isreal's bitch. It doesnt look like the UK is any better. So there!
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I doubt he's a fan of the current govt - are you a Biden fan?


PoS said:
We'll see.
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It looks like some ill-conceived stunt that will get more marines killed, just like at Kabul airport during Biden's crazy withdrawal from Afghanistan.
Then Biden will bomb some kids in retaliation and incinerate them.
 

George Clooney called White House to defend wife's work on Israel warrants​


Academy Award-winning actor George Clooney called one of President Biden’s top aides last month to complain about the president’s criticism of the International Criminal Court’s action against Israeli leaders — a case his wife, Amal Clooney, worked on, according to three people familiar with the conversation.

Clooney called Steve Ricchetti, counselor to the president, to express concern about Biden’s denunciation of arrest warrants sought by ICC prosecutors for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, especially his use of the word “outrageous.” The prosecutors also sought warrants for top Hamas leaders.

The actor was also upset about the administration’s initial openness to imposing sanctions on the ICC because his wife might be subject to the penalties, the people said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss a private conversation.

Clooney’s call came just weeks before he is set to appear at a fundraiser for Biden’s reelection campaign next Saturday in Los Angeles. His concerns spread throughout Biden’s orbit, leaving some officials to worry that the high-profile actor would withdraw from participating in the marquee fundraiser, which will also feature former president Barack Obama, late-night TV host Jimmy Kimmel and actress Julia Roberts.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/06/06/george-clooney-biden-criminal-court-israel/
 
I'm assuming Amal Clooney has US citizenship, since her husband is American.

But it raises the question -- can the US govt take action against a US citizen who has worked in or participated in the International Criminal Court?
Or does ICC not allow citizens from countries that haven't signed onto it?
 
sanman said:
I'm assuming Amal Clooney has US citizenship, since her husband is American.
But it raises the question -- can the US govt take action against a US citizen who has worked in or participated in the International Criminal Court?
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I suppose that depends entirely on the facts of the matter.


 
Someone with an ICC arrest warrant who visits the UK will be arested.
It doesn't matter who they are and I highly doubt the security of the person involved are willing to start a gunfight at a UK airport to stop the process.
 
Mungo Jerry said:
I suppose that depends entirely on the facts of the matter.
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Give me a scenario where the US govt should take action against a US citizen who has worked as part of the International Criminal Court.
Tell me exactly what that person should have done to get themselves in trouble criminally.

I'd say that if I were in that situation, I would take my case to the US Supreme Court, to have any such persecuting law overturned.
After all, simply uncovering facts and presenting them to the International Criminal Court, as Amal Clooney has done, is something that any lawyer or even journalist can do.

It's like telling an attorney that they can't represent a defendant you don't like, or else criminal charges will be brought against the attorney.
To me, such laws are unconstitutional, and should be challenged in the courts, so that those laws can be overturned.

Whether or not the US govt accepts the due process of another country or international entity is a different matter.
But to bar someone from communicating with those entities, especially on the basic issue of human rights, amounts to undue restriction on basic freedoms.
 
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