Is Zelenskyya's mouth now a liability for Ukraine?

[Uncensored2008]

No, in fact, they've switched sides.

You know, its funny. Ukraine is famous for its corruption. But even it wasn't prepared to indulge in Trump's corruption. That really pissed him off.


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Say, hasn't it been proven beyond all doubt that Joe Biden was indeed taking bribes from Burisma?

And I loved the reaction of the left, "Joe Biden is taking bribes, IMPEACH TRUMP!"

Also, the reeking hypocrisy of the Stalinist party complaining about investigating opponents.. Do the fascist democrats have no self-awareness at all?

 

[Infinite Chaos]

The weapons provided by Europe are largely a loan. They expect to get paid back, why shouldn't we?

I asked you this two-three pages ago. Paid back by who?

I'm curious as @Juin has conceded that the loans from Europe come from interest on Russian money seized by banks so you must have a different theory as to who is paying th loans back for Ukraine.

FURTHER, you ducked the question,

Repeating your talking points isn't an answer, it's cowardice.

The US led coup in Ukraine was in 2014.

You also have a question to answer.

You claimed Zelensky is a dictator, put in place by an American sponsored coup and you blamed Obama. You hve answered the coup part but you have not answered how and when Zelensky came to power.

Once you do that - I'm interested in how Zelensky became a dictator however many years ago if he was elected.

 

[Jredbaron96]

Yes, you tried that ploy before.

You've been given proof that skirmishes and civil unrest started in 2012. Somehow you think you serve your party by being less than truthful about it.

Cite the post number where you provided this proof.

 

[Jredbaron96]

It was off subject and disrespectful.

Lol it was neither. It was a basic question that anyone could ask of Trumps' plan for peace.

 

[Roadvirus]

I've never seen such projection in my life. It's as if you copied an article and replaced Trump's name with Zelensky.

Where on earth do you get these ideas?

TASS or RT.

 

[Roadvirus]

never considered that.. good point. Ukraines best security guarantee is ending the war -no matter how

Ending the war won't stop Russia from launching a 3rd invasion. A security guarantee, which means promised military assistance from the West, will prevent another one.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Cite the post number where you provided this proof.

You ducked the question, if we were to say that the civil war didn't start until full combat began in 2014, how does that change anything? Anything at all?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Ending the war won't stop Russia from launching a 3rd invasion. A security guarantee, which means promised military assistance from the West, will prevent another one.

Besides, stopping the war would cut off the ability to loot US military aid.

War Pigs demand that war must never cease. Theaters may change occasionally, but war must be eternal.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Mostly India and China.

Mostly Western Europe, his best customers.

Funny you mention China. The left on this board - including you - demand no sanction or tariffs be levied against their Communist Overlords, is that because it would make it harder for them to fund Russia?

 

[j brown's body]

Abandoning Ukraine to Russia won't stop war. It will encourage more of it.

 

[MamboDervish]

Mostly Western Europe, his best customers.

Mostly India and China

Funny you mention China. The left on this board - including you - demand no sanction or tariffs be levied against their Communist Overlords, is that because it would make it harder for them to fund Russia?

What are you talking about?

 

[Rogue Valley]

You ducked the question, if we were to say that the civil war didn't start until full combat began in 2014, how does that change anything? Anything at all?

A Russian - Igor Girkin (a/k/a Strelkov "shooter") and his group started the war in Donbas in 2014.

‘I pulled the trigger on the war’ In 2014, Igor Strelkov orchestrated the downing of a passenger jet over Ukraine. Today, he was arrested for criticizing Putin on social media. Meduza explains — Meduza

On Friday, July 21, a court ordered the arrest of Igor Strelkov (whose real surname is Girkin), a convicted war criminal, former commander of troops fighting for the self-proclaimed Donetsk “people’s republic,” former FSB officer, and, until today, pro-war and anti-Putin blogger. The criminal...

meduza.io

 

[Jredbaron96]

You ducked the question, if we were to say that the civil war didn't start until full combat began in 2014, how does that change anything? Anything at all?

It calls into question your very basic recollection of the facts of the conflict.

 

[Roadvirus]

The weapons provided by Europe are largely a loan. They expect to get paid back, why shouldn't we?

Bullshit

Europe will not demand any repayment from Ukraine. They can take it out of Russia's hide because they've got access to billions in frozen Russian assets.

 

[Uncensored2008]

It calls into question your very basic recollection of the facts of the conflict.

You ducked the question, if we were to say that the civil war didn't start until full combat began in 2014, how does that change anything? Anything at all?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Bullshit

Europe will not demand any repayment from Ukraine. They can take it out of Russia's hide because they've got access to billions in frozen Russian assets.

Europe does?

Really?

What do they do if Russia cuts off their natural gas and oil? Remember, Europe is the #1 consumer of Russian petroleum products. Without Europe funding it, Russia could never keep their side of the Forever War going.

 

[Roadvirus]

Europe does?

Really?

What do they do if Russia cuts off their natural gas and oil? Remember, Europe is the #1 consumer of Russian petroleum products. Without Europe funding it, Russia could never keep their side of the Forever War going.

Europe is weaning itself off Russian NG & oil. It's a slow work in progress, but they are doing it.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Bullshit

Europe will not demand any repayment from Ukraine. They can take it out of Russia's hide because they've got access to billions in frozen Russian assets.

Then what is this loan about? https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/britain-sends-ukraine-second-part-3-billion-war-loan-2025-04-14/

Your projection that they will just forgive the loans and access frozen Russian assets is conjecture, especially as talks are ongoing in hopes of a peace settlement.

 

[Jredbaron96]

You ducked the question, if we were to say that the civil war didn't start until full combat began in 2014, how does that change anything? Anything at all?

Yeah it proves the fact that your recollection of events is wrong, ergo, much of what you can say can be dismissed.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Europe is weaning itself off Russian NG & oil.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The shit drones will post for their party.

Did you make that up yourself, or did you get it from Rachel Maddow - like pretty much everything else you post?

It's a slow work in progress, but they are doing it.

LOL, bullshit.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Yeah it proves the fact that your recollection of events is wrong, ergo, much of what you can say can be dismissed.

You ducked the question, if we were to say that the civil war didn't start until full combat began in 2014, how does that change anything? Anything at all?

You won't answer - to do so would require integrity. Party is too important for integrity to interfere.

 

[Jredbaron96]

You ducked the question, if we were to say that the civil war didn't start until full combat began in 2014, how does that change anything? Anything at all?

You won't answer - to do so would require integrity. Party is too important for integrity to interfere.

What party? Your assessment of the rest of the war is as wrong as your claim that it started in 2012.

 

[Rogue Valley]

What do they do if Russia cuts off their natural gas and oil? Remember, Europe is the #1 consumer of Russian petroleum products. Without Europe funding it, Russia could never keep their side of the Forever War going.

China, India, and Turkey are the largest consumers of Russian oil/gas.

Germany (oil), Italy, Hungary, Slovakia, Belgium, and the Czech Republic still buy Russian energy products.

Most will be switching over to US LNG and oil from Azerbaijan. With each year, European usage of Russian energy products contracts.

 

[Tiger]

Zelenskt, and indeed most people, seem to understand better than you that a peace treaty will not end the suffering of the Ukrainian people at the hands of the Russians.

Continuing to have his cities destroyed and his soldiers slaughtered isn't ending the suffering, either...

 

[Jredbaron96]

Continuing to have his cities destroyed and his soldiers slaughtered isn't ending the suffering, either...

So the option is either fight back or just let it happen.

Wonder why they are sticking with fighting back?