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But, you're trying to justify it.. which is what I said.I have never killed any babies.
But, you're trying to justify it.. which is what I said.I have never killed any babies.
Doctors get around the Act by stopping the heart with an ultrasound-guided needle before delivering the dead baby. Gotcha.
Neither can these? What's your point?I would like the anti choice people to tell me if the image below is of a human being.
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There are 4 clinics doctors and 3 clinics who are trained and will that perform the late term abortions past viability, and yes the fetus must be dead before starting the contractions or the extraction.Doctors get around the Act by stopping the heart with an ultrasound-guided needle before delivering the dead baby. Gotcha.
In 2013, there were four doctors in the country who performed abortions after the 20th week of pregnancy, according to Slate. (Current numbers could be even lower.)
Neither can they …what ? What is your point ?Neither can these? What's your point?
Again, this isn't true. Read the links that have been provided to you. It's an elective procedure and women have a "right" to receive it in many states up to 24 weeks and in some cases beyond. Not all doctors will do it, but some will do it for elective reasons that are not to save the life of the mother. Once the fetus reaches a certain size the safest way to perform the abortion is to kill the baby and then deliver it whole because breaking it up and pulling it out piece by piece runs the risk of not getting it all out of the mother which results in serious health issues. George Tiller is an example of a doctor who would perform an elective late-term/third-trimester abortion on a mother. If you're going to deliver a baby whole anyway why would you support killing it first? Give it a chance at life. Saying it's rare is not a valid reason to support it in those rare circumstances. You can still be pro-choice without supporting elective killings of viable babies. That's evil behavior.They are very dangerous for the woman so the pregnancy must be a greater the to woman than the abortion.
An unborn is not likely to viable before 24 weeks but doctors have certain protocols to check for viability at or after 22 gestation.Again, this isn't true. Read the links that have been provided to you. It's an elective procedure and women have a "right" to receive it in many states up to 24 weeks and in some cases beyond. Not all doctors will do it, but some will do it for elective reasons that are not to save the life of the mother. Once the fetus reaches a certain size the safest way to perform the abortion is to kill the baby and then deliver it whole because breaking it up and pulling it out piece by piece runs the risk of not getting it all out of the mother which results in serious health issues. George Tiller is an example of a doctor who would perform an elective late-term/third-trimester abortion on a mother. If you're going to deliver a baby whole anyway why would you support killing it first? Give it a chance at life. Saying it's rare is not a valid reason to support it in those rare circumstances. You can still be pro-choice without supporting elective killings of viable babies. That's evil behavior.
Here is a link to a post I made 2019Again, this isn't true. Read the links that have been provided to you. It's an elective procedure and women have a "right" to receive it in many states up to 24 weeks and in some cases beyond. Not all doctors will do it, but some will do it for elective reasons that are not to save the life of the mother. Once the fetus reaches a certain size the safest way to perform the abortion is to kill the baby and then deliver it whole because breaking it up and pulling it out piece by piece runs the risk of not getting it all out of the mother which results in serious health issues. George Tiller is an example of a doctor who would perform an elective late-term/third-trimester abortion on a mother. If you're going to deliver a baby whole anyway why would you support killing it first? Give it a chance at life. Saying it's rare is not a valid reason to support it in those rare circumstances. You can still be pro-choice without supporting elective killings of viable babies. That's evil behavior.
The anti-abortion movement is adamant about passing laws that apply to less than one percent of all abortions. They justify pushing these unnecessary laws by claiming lots of states allow on demand abortion up to 24 weeks so there is a need to stop these frivolous women from aborting healthy fetuses. It's all bullshit. there are 3 states with 24 week limits to abortion. And the few abortions that needed the procedure were medical emergencies.Again, this isn't true. Read the links that have been provided to you. It's an elective procedure and women have a "right" to receive it in many states up to 24 weeks and in some cases beyond. Not all doctors will do it, but some will do it for elective reasons that are not to save the life of the mother. Once the fetus reaches a certain size the safest way to perform the abortion is to kill the baby and then deliver it whole because breaking it up and pulling it out piece by piece runs the risk of not getting it all out of the mother which results in serious health issues. George Tiller is an example of a doctor who would perform an elective late-term/third-trimester abortion on a mother. If you're going to deliver a baby whole anyway why would you support killing it first? Give it a chance at life. Saying it's rare is not a valid reason to support it in those rare circumstances. You can still be pro-choice without supporting elective killings of viable babies. That's evil behavior.
Killing babies is illegal. Nobody is trying to justify it.But, you're trying to justify it.. which is what I said.
What is evil is forcing women to gestate and give birth against their will.Again, this isn't true. Read the links that have been provided to you. It's an elective procedure and women have a "right" to receive it in many states up to 24 weeks and in some cases beyond. Not all doctors will do it, but some will do it for elective reasons that are not to save the life of the mother. Once the fetus reaches a certain size the safest way to perform the abortion is to kill the baby and then deliver it whole because breaking it up and pulling it out piece by piece runs the risk of not getting it all out of the mother which results in serious health issues. George Tiller is an example of a doctor who would perform an elective late-term/third-trimester abortion on a mother. If you're going to deliver a baby whole anyway why would you support killing it first? Give it a chance at life. Saying it's rare is not a valid reason to support it in those rare circumstances. You can still be pro-choice without supporting elective killings of viable babies. That's evil behavior.
I finally found a working link to the Kansas 2008 abortion stats PDF…Once the fetus reaches a certain size the safest way to perform the abortion is to kill the baby and then deliver it whole because breaking it up and pulling it out piece by piece runs the risk of not getting it all out of the mother which results in serious health issues. George Tiller is an example of a doctor who would perform an elective late-term/third-trimester abortion on a mother. ….
Nobody is trying to justify killing babies. Pro-choice is asking for two things: support low risk of failure contraceptives so they are available to all women regardless of income so that there are fewer unwanted pregnancies and respect the decision of women and their families when they say they cannot provide loving and caring homes for a child or another child at this time in their lives and allow abortion. I know it's too much to ask Republicans to support the fetuses they make women carry to term, so I don't ask.It would be nice if you could stop your claque from calling women murderers but again I won't ask for the impossible.But, you're trying to justify it.. which is what I said.
Again, these numbers change based on location and quality of care in the area. Additionally, in some places, you can get an elective abortion past 24 weeks. George Tiller is an example of a doctor who fully admitted to doing third-trimester abortions on health viable fetuses when the mother's life was not endangered. So basically he killed the child, then delivered it dead because... reasons?An unborn is not likely to viable before 24 weeks but doctors have certain protocols to check for viability at or after 22 gestation.
Again, something being rare isn't an excuse to support it happening for elective reasons.As I said only 1 percent of abortions take place
It's shitty logic to support elective late-term abortions on health viable fetuses because you don't like the "anti-abortion" movement.The anti-abortion movement is adamant about passing laws that apply to less than one percent of all abortions.
Again, late-term abortions on healthy viable fetuses need to be born through induced labor. The only difference is whether or not you support killing them first... which apparently you do.What is evil is forcing women to gestate and give birth against their will.
The number of late term abortions on healthy normal fetuses is about nil. It isn't happening. How many times do you have to be told that this is a solution looking around for a gullible and ignorant base to prey on for political gain. And yes I don't like the anti-abortion movement. I don't like their basic dishonesty and the fact that their target is poor women. You can't hurt women who have money to do what they want so you target poor women and their struggling families upon which to vent your bile. It's a hateful movement. And buried deep in hypocrisy everyone with one viable synapse knows that saving the fetus is not the objective. You betcha, I don't like the anti-abortion movement.It's shitty logic to support elective late-term abortions on health viable fetuses because you don't like the "anti-abortion" movement.
This is way overdone. If I live in the countryside and have a roadside diner, and the egg deliveryman didn't bring enough eggs for the egg salad at lunch, suppose that I use six eggs laid by six of my chickens, but the rooster managed to fertilize them that morning.Eggs we eat are in an inactive state and not fertilized
Again , George Tillers abortion Clinic was in Kansas :Again, these numbers change based on location and quality of care in the area. Additionally, in some places, you can get an elective abortion past 24 weeks. George Tiller is an example of a doctor who fully admitted to doing third-trimester abortions on health viable fetuses when the mother's life was not endangered. So basically he killed the child, then delivered it dead because... reasons?
Again, something being rare isn't an excuse to support it happening for elective reasons.
Actually , it was not a way a way to get around the partial birth act.Doctors get around the Act by stopping the heart with an ultrasound-guided needle before delivering the dead baby. Gotcha.
So the best you can offer is an old story of someone on the fringe who performed illegal procedures? You're really stretching here.Here's some more evidence of you not being refuted
Common Ground on Late-Term Abortion: Anguish - WSJ
The Killing of Dr. George Tiller Has Rekindled an Old Debate, but Partisans on Both Sides Acknowledge Each Other's Painwww.wsj.com
Sure, why not?Not human, should we kill them when it suit us?
Link to a video of him saying that, please. This is the first I've heard of it, and his website said otherwise.Again, these numbers change based on location and quality of care in the area. Additionally, in some places, you can get an elective abortion past 24 weeks. George Tiller is an example of a doctor who fully admitted to doing third-trimester abortions on health viable fetuses when the mother's life was not endangered. So basically he killed the child, then delivered it dead because... reasons?
I support the govt getting the **** out of it and letting doctors practice medicine without interference from it.Again, late-term abortions on healthy viable fetuses need to be born through induced labor. The only difference is whether or not you support killing them first... which apparently you do.
Yup, precisely what I said. You're cool with an elective killing or a nine month fetus because.. reasons. Killing a healthy, viable fetus prior to delivery is an odd way to "practice medicine." It's pretty barbaric. But, your opinions are in good company. I don't think any civilized first world country agrees with you, but North Korea does... so there's that.I support the govt getting the **** out of it and letting doctors practice medicine without interference from it.