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Is SSM a "dead" issue, now?

Is SSM a "dead" issue, now?

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I wanted to vote "It is settled" but I could not. As we've already seen in the recent action of the Attorney General of Texas instructing clerks not to issue licenses, and the various calls from ultra-conservatives in dissenting states for "new legislation" to limit the ruling, there are plenty of groups out there who will try to test it any way they can.

I am sure we will see problems over the next couple of years before the dust completely settles.
 
For once a poll on this forum is representative of the reality. About a third of the country will continue to want to carry same-sex marriage as an issue. I think it will diminish in time, but it will be two or three generations before it is a dead issue.
 
After Loving vs Verginia it took another 30 years for interacial marriage to be generaly tolerated; and interacial couple still get sideways looks today.
 
Jerry said:
After Loving vs Verginia it took another 30 years for interacial marriage to be generaly tolerated; and interacial couple still get sideways looks today.
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True. A friend of mine who I recently came out to admitted she is far more bothered by interracial couples than same-sex couples. It definitely raised my eyebrow. Attitudes change very slowly.
 
CriticalThought said:
True. A friend of mine who I recently came out to admitted she is far more bothered by interracial couples than same-sex couples. It definitely raised my eyebrow. Attitudes change very slowly.
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I notice the media isn't talking about all those people who voted for Obama and against SSM on the same ballot.

I guess that doesn't fit the anti-GOP neeative.
 

I suspect that there will be tons of lawsuits and political maneuvering from the ANTI side, trying to get this overturned. Gracious in defeat doesn't seem likely and when a movement as rigid as the anti side loses, it often doubles down on it's resolve to attack... keeping those involved employed.

I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it.
 
I'm not so sure it will take all that long to heal. The only age demographic that did not favor same sex marriage are the very old. Some age groups closer to even than others. Younger people more open to the decision of the court. I think some states and some regions will be more resistant as with Texas. other states will perhaps throw their hat in the ring of resistance. But for the majority the issue is dead.
 

I think it's pretty well settled, of course there will be some things to iron out similar to how abortion is still being ironed out.... simply because 50% of the population isn't just going to sit on their hands and do nothing if they believe strongly in something.
 

No. As long as we have states like Texas declaring that they'll refuse to comply with the law it won't be over. Much like how many states in the south when forced with the Civil Rights Act just used loopholes to block blacks from voting, they'll continue to try the same trick again. I wish it was, but it's not quite over yet.
 



No, I'm afraid we're probably both right. Would that it were not so.
 

It took Mississippi 150 years to ratify the 13th amendment. Slavery was not legal in Mississippi until then.
 
I'd bet dollars to donuts that it will be in the official 2016 gop platform , primary debates, and so forth.

So..........no
 
There are two mistakes people are making in this thread.

1) Presuming that "dead" means it will never ever come up again. No, it doesn't mean that. As with pretty much *any* issue, there will be some people who will piss and moan, and may even challenge, but after the dust settles this issue will be like most others people will go about their lives and the issue of SSM will be lived with. That makes it "dead".

2) Comparing this to abortion. Abortion is special in that it is an outlier. Comparing abortion to almost any other issue isn't really an apples-to-apples comparison here.
 
I was GOING to vote that it is now a dead issue but it looks like some conservative politicians are not going to let it die.
 
BrewerBob said:
I was GOING to vote that it is now a dead issue but it looks like some conservative politicians are not going to let it die.
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Yeah, but for how long? I think this is a natural part of the process. People who don't get their way go all :scared: for awhile, then they sigh and give up and move on to something else. That's what I think will happen here. Six months and it'll be mostly forgotten.
 
In the US, it's dying down for sure. I doubt we'll be talking about it a year from now. However, in the rest of the world, no, and gay rights is certainly not dead; there are still many things to fight for.
 
As long as fake news placates to the religious nut job right, it will be an issue.
 
Your Star said:
In the US, it's dying down for sure. I doubt we'll be talking about it a year from now. However, in the rest of the world, no, and gay rights is certainly not dead; there are still many things to fight for.
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It's not like most care about any social issues that occur globally... if they did, The middle east against woman and LGBT would be a great concern.
Or woman in Japan...
Or people in China...
Or woman in India...
Patriarchy still rules outside of west Europe and the US... to a much higher degree than any discrimination you'll ever find in the US.
 
Your Star said:
In the US, it's dying down for sure. I doubt we'll be talking about it a year from now. However, in the rest of the world, no, and gay rights is certainly not dead; there are still many things to fight for.
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Agreed, but while the OP didn't restrict the geography, I didn't take his question to include the rest of the world.

I could be mistaken, though. :shrug:
 
What's this "proof of concept" thing I see popping up sporadically throughout the thread?
 

After the Hobby Lobby decision half of the country (and this board) was convinced that they weren't going to be able to get contraceptives anywhere at any time. And that was almost a year ago to the day. One year ago tomorrow, in fact. You seldom if ever hear about it, and I don't think anyone lost her contraceptives over it either.
 

Nicely said, and I agree with both.

I also think that most GOP candidates are breathing a collective sigh of relief that this didn't become an election issue. Some will make it an election issue (Huckabee for instance) but most will run from it with pleasure. Sure there will be lawsuits going on for years but that shouldn't be surprising. And you're right, there is no comparison at all to the abortion debate in this one.
 

The clear difference is that your top court actually follows your constitution. Unlike ours.
 
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