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I think so. I think we now live in a world where SSM is no longer an issue and all arguments, pro and con, are now moot.
Seriously, that's actually difficult to wrap my mind around. All the time and energy arguing about who is and isn't pro/anti SSM and why they are and are not is moot. Like the ruling or not, the issue has been settled and it will never go back. Continuing to dwell on it and argue it, especially on the anti-SSM side is pointless. You're just making yourselves miserable over something that most likely will have zero impact on your life. On the pro side, you have every right to celebrate, but maybe you could try to be happy rather than hateful. C'mon, it's supposed easy to be magnanimous when you win (and you have won).
I, for one, look forward to all the furor settling down. Honestly, this issue felt a little like it tore me in two, understanding arguments on both sides and feeling that there are good hearted and sincere people on both sides, which was probably the most lonely position of all.
Anyway, do you agree with me that once all the victory laps have been run and all the anger has subsided (and it will with time - it always does), this is essentially a dead issue?
Now what are we gonna talk about?
Getting a simple poll together and sorry about the weird font (I hope it's not huge) - that happens sometimes when I save something to my iPad then copy/paste it later.
In the US. Maybe.
In the rest of the world. Absolutely not.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Russia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Uganda
Ah hell. We have to go on bickering and hating on each other because of Russia?
I think so. I think we now live in a world where SSM is no longer an issue and all arguments, pro and con, are now moot.
Seriously, that's actually difficult to wrap my mind around. All the time and energy arguing about who is and isn't pro/anti SSM and why they are and are not is moot. Like the ruling or not, the issue has been settled and it will never go back. Continuing to dwell on it and argue it, especially on the anti-SSM side is pointless. You're just making yourselves miserable over something that most likely will have zero impact on your life. On the pro side, you have every right to celebrate, but maybe you could try to be happy rather than hateful. C'mon, it's supposed easy to be magnanimous when you win (and you have won).
I, for one, look forward to all the furor settling down. Honestly, this issue felt a little like it tore me in two, understanding arguments on both sides and feeling that there are good hearted and sincere people on both sides, which was probably the most lonely position of all.
Anyway, do you agree with me that once all the victory laps have been run and all the anger has subsided (and it will with time - it always does), this is essentially a dead issue?
Now what are we gonna talk about?
Getting a simple poll together and sorry about the weird font (I hope it's not huge) - that happens sometimes when I save something to my iPad then copy/paste it later.
I think so. I think we now live in a world where SSM is no longer an issue and all arguments, pro and con, are now moot.
Seriously, that's actually difficult to wrap my mind around. All the time and energy arguing about who is and isn't pro/anti SSM and why they are and are not is moot. Like the ruling or not, the issue has been settled and it will never go back. Continuing to dwell on it and argue it, especially on the anti-SSM side is pointless. You're just making yourselves miserable over something that most likely will have zero impact on your life. On the pro side, you have every right to celebrate, but maybe you could try to be happy rather than hateful. C'mon, it's supposed easy to be magnanimous when you win (and you have won).
I, for one, look forward to all the furor settling down. Honestly, this issue felt a little like it tore me in two, understanding arguments on both sides and feeling that there are good hearted and sincere people on both sides, which was probably the most lonely position of all.
Anyway, do you agree with me that once all the victory laps have been run and all the anger has subsided (and it will with time - it always does), this is essentially a dead issue?
Now what are we gonna talk about?
Getting a simple poll together and sorry about the weird font (I hope it's not huge) - that happens sometimes when I save something to my iPad then copy/paste it later.
I think so. I think we now live in a world where SSM is no longer an issue and all arguments, pro and con, are now moot.
Seriously, that's actually difficult to wrap my mind around. All the time and energy arguing about who is and isn't pro/anti SSM and why they are and are not is moot. Like the ruling or not, the issue has been settled and it will never go back. Continuing to dwell on it and argue it, especially on the anti-SSM side is pointless. You're just making yourselves miserable over something that most likely will have zero impact on your life. On the pro side, you have every right to celebrate, but maybe you could try to be happy rather than hateful. C'mon, it's supposed easy to be magnanimous when you win (and you have won).
I, for one, look forward to all the furor settling down. Honestly, this issue felt a little like it tore me in two, understanding arguments on both sides and feeling that there are good hearted and sincere people on both sides, which was probably the most lonely position of all.
Anyway, do you agree with me that once all the victory laps have been run and all the anger has subsided (and it will with time - it always does), this is essentially a dead issue?
Now what are we gonna talk about?
Getting a simple poll together and sorry about the weird font (I hope it's not huge) - that happens sometimes when I save something to my iPad then copy/paste it later.
I have every confidence that SSM will turn out to be an issue every bit as dead as the abortion issue has been post Roe v Wade.
Well, one can hope.
It's been coming, anyone could see it was inevitable for several years now.
It's done... be nice if we could talk about something ELSE for a change.
However, I have an unpleasant suspicion that that floodgates will open for lawsuits based on this or that sort of discrimination claims, all aimed at ramming acceptance down everyone's throats. "Gracious in victory" seems unlikely. Movements don't stop moving just because they've won their primary objective; those who make a living leading the movement tend to look for the next thing to make a big deal out of, so they can stay employed.
I hope I'm wrong. I doubt that I am.
I think so. I think we now live in a world where SSM is no longer an issue and all arguments, pro and con, are now moot.
Seriously, that's actually difficult to wrap my mind around. All the time and energy arguing about who is and isn't pro/anti SSM and why they are and are not is moot. Like the ruling or not, the issue has been settled and it will never go back. Continuing to dwell on it and argue it, especially on the anti-SSM side is pointless. You're just making yourselves miserable over something that most likely will have zero impact on your life. On the pro side, you have every right to celebrate, but maybe you could try to be happy rather than hateful. C'mon, it's supposed easy to be magnanimous when you win (and you have won).
I, for one, look forward to all the furor settling down. Honestly, this issue felt a little like it tore me in two, understanding arguments on both sides and feeling that there are good hearted and sincere people on both sides, which was probably the most lonely position of all.
Anyway, do you agree with me that once all the victory laps have been run and all the anger has subsided (and it will with time - it always does), this is essentially a dead issue?
Now what are we gonna talk about?
Getting a simple poll together and sorry about the weird font (I hope it's not huge) - that happens sometimes when I save something to my iPad then copy/paste it later.
Ah hell. We have to go on bickering and hating on each other because of Russia?
We've had legal same sex marriage in the country since 2004. If the last eleven years are anything to go by then you can expect more of the same from here on out. As such the only example we've had of a church being forced to officiate a same sex marriage was in Denmark.
There will be some initial outrage by some for a few months, but it's pretty much settled and done.I think so. I think we now live in a world where SSM is no longer an issue and all arguments, pro and con, are now moot.
Seriously, that's actually difficult to wrap my mind around. All the time and energy arguing about who is and isn't pro/anti SSM and why they are and are not is moot. Like the ruling or not, the issue has been settled and it will never go back. Continuing to dwell on it and argue it, especially on the anti-SSM side is pointless. You're just making yourselves miserable over something that most likely will have zero impact on your life. On the pro side, you have every right to celebrate, but maybe you could try to be happy rather than hateful. C'mon, it's supposed easy to be magnanimous when you win (and you have won).
I, for one, look forward to all the furor settling down. Honestly, this issue felt a little like it tore me in two, understanding arguments on both sides and feeling that there are good hearted and sincere people on both sides, which was probably the most lonely position of all.
Anyway, do you agree with me that once all the victory laps have been run and all the anger has subsided (and it will with time - it always does), this is essentially a dead issue?
Now what are we gonna talk about?
Getting a simple poll together and sorry about the weird font (I hope it's not huge) - that happens sometimes when I save something to my iPad then copy/paste it later.
All you need look at is what younger generations think on the issue. Younger generations are very pro gay marriage. I don't see this issue, just as abortion, facing any real legal threat. Abortion is easy enough to get in America. Either way, all that really matters for the future of a law is what do the younger generations feel, and in this case America's youth are completely socially liberal. Social conservatism is on a steep decline in America and every poll shows this.
I have every confidence that SSM will turn out to be an issue every bit as dead as the abortion issue has been post Roe v Wade.
I think so. I think we now live in a world where SSM is no longer an issue and all arguments, pro and con, are now moot.
Seriously, that's actually difficult to wrap my mind around. All the time and energy arguing about who is and isn't pro/anti SSM and why they are and are not is moot. Like the ruling or not, the issue has been settled and it will never go back. Continuing to dwell on it and argue it, especially on the anti-SSM side is pointless. You're just making yourselves miserable over something that most likely will have zero impact on your life. On the pro side, you have every right to celebrate, but maybe you could try to be happy rather than hateful. C'mon, it's supposed easy to be magnanimous when you win (and you have won).
I, for one, look forward to all the furor settling down. Honestly, this issue felt a little like it tore me in two, understanding arguments on both sides and feeling that there are good hearted and sincere people on both sides, which was probably the most lonely position of all.
Anyway, do you agree with me that once all the victory laps have been run and all the anger has subsided (and it will with time - it always does), this is essentially a dead issue?
Now what are we gonna talk about?
Getting a simple poll together and sorry about the weird font (I hope it's not huge) - that happens sometimes when I save something to my iPad then copy/paste it later.
Well, one can hope.
It's been coming, anyone could see it was inevitable for several years now.
It's done... be nice if we could talk about something ELSE for a change.
However, I have an unpleasant suspicion that that floodgates will open for lawsuits based on this or that sort of discrimination claims, all aimed at ramming acceptance down everyone's throats. "Gracious in victory" seems unlikely. Movements don't stop moving just because they've won their primary objective; those who make a living leading the movement tend to look for the next thing to make a big deal out of, so they can stay employed.
I hope I'm wrong. I doubt that I am.
:shrug: We'll see what we see. I'm not going to lose sleep over it, but I suspect someone will find a way to fan the fires... some gay version of Jessie or Al perhaps, seeing discrimination in every incidence of bad restaurant service.
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