OTL -- NCAA investigating Johnny Manziel for profiting from autographs - ESPN
The NCAA is investigating to determine if last year's Heisman winner Johnny "football" Manziel violated NCAA Bylaw 12.5.2.1. According to the latest reports, Manziel has worked with at least 3 separate autograph borkers and signed over 4000 items. The key now is to determine if Manziel was paid to do so. If found guilty of violating the bylaw, Manziel could lose his college eligibility. He would also be ineligible for the NFL draft for a period of 18 months.
If the allegations are true, it would appear that Johnny Football has royally screwed himself.
Μολὼν λαβέ;1062179261 said:Why is it OK for colleges and the NCAA to profit on athletes but the athletes themselves cannot receive compensation?
Who gets rich off having Manziel's picture and likeness on Playstation and XBOX games?
Who gets rich off Manziel's name on T A&M jerseys?
Why can't a player sign an autograph for $? (Not saying that he did.)
Why are students who receive academic scholarships from colleges and universities allowed to receive compensation, but student-athletes aren't?
The answer, in part, and common link to every question is: NCAA
Hopefully, Manziel will challenge that in court and the eventual result will be the end of the slave system of labor in the NCAA.
Slave system??? Oh those poor athletes, all they get is a very valuable college education that most people would kill to have for free, plus room and board. Man, they have it rough, especially considering that they're forced to be there and all.
If you are good enough to get a full ride scholarship then you should embrace that, respect that, and be grateful for the opportunities that will provide you. The schools invest time, money and resources recruiting players and paying for the programs. As good as someone like Johnny Manziel is, he will never be worth as much to the school as the school has been to him.
I really hope this blows up. Its time people took a look at college sports and realized that they really dont belong in Universities the way football and basketball are today.
I'd be fine with prospect athletes getting paid money if they disaccociate football from college and create a minor league for the NFL that the top high school athletes can go to right out of high school instead of college.
Or, how about giving college athletes a choice: They can have, say a $10K/year stipend, but in exchange they have to pay for their college and room and board on their own.
the Fair market value for the average FBS football player is 137,357 per year and men's basketball player is 289,031. That's average! So a Johnny Manziel would probably be commanding much closer to at least 500k to a million if he received his fair market value. Even assuming that all the money just goes into a pool and players are paid out the same salary we're not talking chump change.
Oh...so people know how the study was done...it used a comparison to the NBA and NFL on what % of revenue they receive. Baskeball players collectively would receive 6.2 billion dollars. By team...the fairmarket value of say of say a lousiville basketball player would be around 1.5 million.
In football the top programs such as Texas/Michagan/Alabama etc would receive around 500k. Of course that is average once again...lifetime backups vs starters, QB's vs kickers and you would probably see the Manziels of the world making a lot more.
Players are paid a lot more than chump change. That tuition and room & board ain't cheap.
What is it compared to what their fair market value is?
I'm not saying there's no value to free tuition/tutors/room and board etc. but compared to what value they bring it...primarily at the top programs it is chump change.
It's not about what they get from the university...it's about what their talents are actually worth. College football is a business...there's a reason SEC coaches make millions of dollars a year.....it's a pretty ****ed up system because the main component the players are the least compensated in the massive money making scheme.
Players are currently paid a lot more than chump change. That tuition and room & board ain't cheap. If that's not enough for them, then they're free to not go.
Seems to me that that shouldnt preclude them from getting money when the university sells their likeness or name for a profit, like a Johnny Manziel jersey. Manziel will never see money from that. Manziel is free to sign jerseys for the NCAA to sell, but he cant sell his own autograph. Nike would love to have him in a commercial. But he's not allowed, because the University gets paid to wear Adiddas and Manziel isnt allowed to wear Nike. How is that right?
It doesn't matter. If they're not happy with the compensation (full ride to college), then they don't have to go. They can take their talents elsewhere.
As with almost every one of these kinds of cases...the time to complain about the rules/system is BEFORE you break them and not after you get caught. If the allegations are true....he knew the rules and he knowingly broke them. doesn't matter what you think of the system, you can't get around that.
It doesn't matter. If they're not happy with the compensation (full ride to college), then they don't have to go. They can take their talents elsewhere.
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