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Is Conservative Indoctrination Becoming a Problem In Our Schools?

Conservative indoctrination


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Dems have taken that to heart, and they are teaching the gay agenda in schools. Drag queen story hour teaches children to accept degenerates in their lives, if nothing else does.
'Tis true. The nanosecond I saw a gay couple, I was immediately indoctrinated into being gay myself because that's how it works. It's a biological fact.
 
Not a word about the Democrat heritage of support for slavery and segregation. Why the opposition to teaching kids America history?
No, there’s lots of words to be said about that. Prior to Nixon’s Southern strategy it’s true that the Democrat party was the racist party. No one is denying that.

But why not a word about what happened next?
 
No, there’s lots of words to be said about that. Prior to Nixon’s Southern strategy it’s true that the Democrat party was the racist party. No one is denying that.

But why not a word about what happened next?
The course is history of the Democrat party. It's not about pathetic whataboutism deflection to attack political opponents.

Why shouldn't students be taught the Democrat party support for racism and segregation? You admit Democrats have a history of racism. Students should know about it.
 
The course is history of the Democrat party. It's not about pathetic whataboutism deflection to attack political opponents.
Why should that history course stop with Richard Nixon? Seems like a pretty weird place to just stop the course.
Why shouldn't students be taught the Democrat party support for racism and segregation? You admit Democrats have a history of racism. Students should know about it.

Sure. They do. Everyone knows Abraham Lincoln was a Republican. But why not teach the full history? Some people might suspect you are trying to censor American history or something. Kinda weird.
 
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Listen to Joe tell Charlamagne, "Don't get off the plantation, boy!" Imagine a Republican, an Independent, a Libertarian talking to a Black man like that.


I listened to your clip. I heard nothing like that. Not sure what you are talking about.

It just seems you are so desperate to hear things you are hearing them in your head.
 
I listened to your clip. I heard nothing like that. Not sure what you are talking about.

It just seems you are so desperate to hear things you are hearing them in your head.
LOL - I heard a privileged white man telling a Black man what it means to be Black. Biden is perpetuating the myth that Democrats love Blacks, and Democrats are the Civil Rights party, and that a Black man who votes against the party is an Uncle Tom.

And the Dems are guilty of pretending to be outraged at what the opposition says about them. The most recent Trumpism about Cheney changing her mind about war if she had to face the guns. Dems went spastic, saying that Trump wanted to shoot Cheney. Trump bungled his terminology, but it was clear what he was saying.
 
LOL - I heard a privileged white man telling a Black man what it means to be Black. Biden is perpetuating the myth that Democrats love Blacks, and Democrats are the Civil Rights party, and that a Black man who votes against the party is an Uncle Tom.

You want black men to vote for this party? (interview with Lee Atwater, Reagan's senior political strategist, in 1981):

Atwater: As to the whole Southern strategy that Harry Dent and others put together in 1968, opposition to the Voting Rights Act would have been a central part of keeping the South. Now [Reagan] doesn't have to do that. All you have to do to keep the South is for Reagan to run in place on the issues he's campaigned on since 1964 [...] and that's fiscal conservatism, balancing the budget, cut taxes, you know, the whole cluster...

Questioner: But the fact is, isn't it, that Reagan does get to the Wallace voter and to the racist side of the Wallace voter by doing away with legal services, by cutting down on food stamps?

Atwater: Y'all don't quote me on this. You start out in 1954 by saying, "Nigger, nigger, nigger." By 1968 you can't say "nigger"—that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me—because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "Nigger, nigger."
 
Ummm... no. This is the kind of education that contributes to our population being factually ignorant on many topics and politically polarized.....

>Despite the name including the word "university", it is not an academic institution, ...

How in the world did such crap be approved for its schools by the State of New Hampshire?

Ah, I forgot. Republican Governor Sununu. A Donald Trump acolyte.

I did extensive work in the mid 1990s on the content analysis of history and civic textbooks and even then there was plenty of multiculturalist "crap" that was approved by California as well, so I'm sure with the advent of CRT and DEI and its viewpoints are even more controversial today.

That said, it does not mean those book publishers should have been banned or excluded, they often had some useful content and where they errored badly other sources should have been used to counterbalance or correct it. And a teacher or school should approach PragerU's education-oriented material just as selectively.

But all this hairpulling over PragerU not being a university is irrelevant; most education vendors are not. The are either for profit or non profit enterprises. In this case Its a brand name of a non profit created by talk radio host Dennis Prager, a way of conveying the impression that the purpose of the enterprise is teaching what the public, students and young people ought to know. And like dozens of left of center non-profits it provides teachers and schools materials for the education of students, as do college departments and teacher unions.

Some key aspects you may be unaware of:

1. PragerU says it is not a university, it does not advertise as a university nor say it is accredited. This "issue" is not an issue.

2. Youtube as a source of criticism as to what constitutes hate speech in a couple of videos without credentials or expertise on the subject is not only problematical, its trivial; first because there is more than an occasional demonetization of on Youtube for all viewpoint content and b) two Candice Owens videos out of 195 total PragerU videos by others that also address Trans issues isn't indicative on anything other than her opinion. In any event these are not school materials.

3. PragerU has two kinds of content. The first are shows, videos for public consumption by anyone on social media. The second is education materials, designed and segregated to parents and teachers, student sgrade, etc. Here is their menu for educational material (most for sale) seperated by audience and subject:

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PragerU provides resources and viewpoint content to parents and teachers. It provides books and stories in various formats, addressing history, civics. crafts, adventures, etc. As an approved vendor, schools can purchase the pedagogical material they wish.

4. The remainder of your complaint isn't over their educational material, its over their shows and political/social viewpoints. Whether minimum wage is good or bad, it the Southern strategy had anything to do with the populists shift in party affiliation, or if white privilege is a misleading or false narrative are all current topics with academics on both sides of these issues. Polemics over PragerU capitalism rather than something else is silly, as is taking the word of the SPLC for their unsupported characterizations (and predictable vilifications).

To be clear, i read a lot of US history and economics and there are things in their shows that I disagree with. But we are speaking of PragerU as a vendor of educational materials, so why aren't reflexive liberals actually criticizing their school material? Doesn't it fit in their "just terrible" narrative or is it just too much work to actually read what they sell to schools?

IF they weren't being political this is what we would be evaluating...not on shows produced for the public. For example, this 145 book series.


 
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You want black men to vote for this party? (interview with Lee Atwater, Reagan's senior political strategist, in 1981):

Atwater: As to the whole Southern strategy that Harry Dent and others put together in 1968, opposition to the Voting Rights Act would have been a central part of keeping the South. Now [Reagan] doesn't have to do that. All you have to do to keep the South is for Reagan to run in place on the issues he's campaigned on since 1964 [...] and that's fiscal conservatism, balancing the budget, cut taxes, you know, the whole cluster...

Questioner: But the fact is, isn't it, that Reagan does get to the Wallace voter and to the racist side of the Wallace voter by doing away with legal services, by cutting down on food stamps?

Atwater: Y'all don't quote me on this. You start out in 1954 by saying, "Nigger, nigger, nigger." By 1968 you can't say "nigger"—that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me—because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "Nigger, nigger."

Sigh.

Okay, you and I both know this is what you deeply wish to believe and that you won't read so much as one of the links I am about to provide. None the less as someone who ardently followed politics starting in 1965, volunteered for Nixon in 1968, and who went to the Republican conventions in 1972 and 1976 this theory wasn't even noticed in the 60s and early 70s. And for good reason, it's a ex post rationalization by the Democratic liberal/left to explain why they lost the working class (which was at the time 90 percent white) to Nixon and Reagan.

"It was a plot, a nefarious strategy"...or so you all would like to believe.

But that is NOT how social movements and demographic shifts, nor generational values, change politics. These shifts didn't happen due to machinations of some Republican leaders, they happened organically - they evolved as a consequence of changing values and economics, and class loyalties. The most concise explanation is simple: the Democratic coalition of southern segregationists, blacks, and the working class came apart. The rise of the New Left, Counter culture, black militancy, riots, and the working class becoming middleclass under one roof fractured...a fracture that began in the new south border states and spread to the deep south.

And once segregation was buried and race became much less of an issue in the South, the traditional values of the white working class and "common man" started voting Republican. George Wallace's attempt at a third party failed, and that was that. If you didn't identify with the New Left, SF hippies, anti-war America military haters, drugs, welfare, or free sex the Democratic party liberalism wasn't going to cater to Baptists, bible belt, and other traditional lifestyles.

The term "SF Democrat" and "Liberal" wrote off the Southern as a bunch of racist boobs ... and naturally they went elsewhere. In short, the GOP didn't need to change their conservative and small federal government views, they only had to wait for the South to quit a party that didn't want them.

Although I could give you several links, I start with the first one and see if you surprise me and read it.

 
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PragerU has been lobbying red states for inclusion into the curriculum and finding some success in red states. This is concerning to all people who wish their kids receive an education in their school.

PragerU is not a university, it is a YouTube channel that pushes conservative propaganda. It has no place in the classroom, as an educational resource
Just keep your sex and racism away from the kids, stop trying to rewrite history, and we conservatives for the most part, don't care.
 
Thank you. There is always that risk. A big part of leftist indoctrination is for people to stop associating with friends and family if they are not in the woke cult.

Boring tactic. The lack of integrity that one must groom in themselves to deny their own world is astounding. Aside from the fact that the "cult" mentality in America is clearly about MAGA, not your fantasies of a "woke" mob coming to make you gay, you even have a FOX personality (Jesse Watters) threatening his wife on live TV with divorce if she dares vote for Harris. But, because this reality is shameful and embarrassing to you, you simply pretend that "the other" is the one behaving like this. No, at least have the integrity to own and acknowledge what conservative America has become for Trump's MAGA cult. At this rate, Trump could get caught raping a baby goat and you people would simply ignore and declare that "leftists" are having sex with farm animals.
 
Just keep your sex and racism away from the kids, stop trying to rewrite history, and we conservatives for the most part, don't care.

Oh, really?

In the meantime, all the Neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and anti-Semites sit comfortably among you on the right, decades after the votes for Civil Rights was divided cleanly between liberals and conservatives. Trump calls them good people. I saw that some of you conservatives found it funny to tie up a Harris-look-alike behind a car in a child's Halloween parade a few days ago. Did the kids enjoy? And what do brown immigrants do? Oh yeah...they "poison the blood." Let's not pretend that the same southern conservatives who carry the Confederate war flag today aren't the same southern conservatives who carried it in 1861, when they first attacked America. The recent January 6 attack was merely a less-exciting sequel with dumber people. And instead of being able to outright deny them representation like the days of old, today's conservatives racially gerrymander across the South to ensure white power. And let's not pretend that the Catholic Church, a conservative organization, isn't full of pedophiles. Of course, then there's Trump setting the example for all sex offenders who think they can grab your wife's ***** whenever he feels like it. Did you see where he simulated giving a blow job to a microphone to the cheers of MAGA? Any groomed MAGA kids in the crowd see that as they stood next to cheering-MAGA Mommy and Daddy? Republican politicians are constantly caught in sex scandals. Hear about conservative-based Moms for Liberty?

THIS...is the documented history. Scared conservative America always desperate to cling to traditionalism, no matter who it hurts, so that they can deny social and moral progress just to cling to a sense of racial superiority. Repressed Conservative America always preaching about moral superiority, despite constantly having to ignore their public sexual misconduct. In fact, conservative America praises Trump, a documented sex offender, as the very essence of masculinity, doesn't it? In the meantime, you people pretend that it's "the left" who shove racism and sex at your kids? No, you all do this. Your kids grow up hearing Mommy and Daddy demonize their homosexual and minority school friends. Your kids watch their parents make jokes about minorities while praising the righteousness of the Confederate war flag. Your kids watch their parents' candidate for President publicly simulate oral sex with a microphone. And your answer to sex education is to say, "how dare you" and then provide none as your teenage daughter gets pregnant and now dies because she can't get an abortion in Red states. Perhaps if you conservatives spent less time desperately trying to irrationally deny what you have always supported, you wouldn't have "leftists" and progressives so eager to shove it down your throats throughout history.

With so much denial, you clearly care a lot.
 
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Sure liberal indoctrination is mandated, in many states and by many school boards. In California, for example, all curriculum is set by the state, including the requirement for all students to take ethnic studies that teach a liberal or left point of view. It CERTAINLY isn't conservative.


I suggest ya'll on the admitted left quit trying to gaslight parents.

What exactly is the liberal or leftist point of view they are teaching?

Why are you opposed?
 

Is Conservative Indoctrination Becoming a Problem In Our Schools?​


Yes. Especially in regards to banning library books and selective sex education.

Conservatives also want to bring religion (Christian of course) into the schools.

Fund your own religio-conservative schools like the Catholics/Mormons do.

Leftists like yourself have no room to be talking about book banning..................... and you have a long history of book banning.

Hypocrisy rules!
 
Zero credibility and teaches conservative lies as fact is a problem for most people.

Which of these videos is inappropriate for public education? Be specific with your reasoning.
 
Sigh.

Okay, you and I both know this is what you deeply wish to believe and that you won't read so much as one of the links I am about to provide. None the less as someone who ardently followed politics starting in 1965, volunteered for Nixon in 1968, and who went to the Republican conventions in 1972 and 1976 this theory wasn't even noticed in the 60s and early 70s. And for good reason, it's a ex post rationalization by the Democratic liberal/left to explain why they lost the working class (which was at the time 90 percent white) to Nixon and Reagan.

"It was a plot, a nefarious strategy"...or so you all would like to believe.

But that is NOT how social movements and demographic shifts, nor generational values, change politics. These shifts didn't happen due to machinations of some Republican leaders, they happened organically - they evolved as a consequence of changing values and economics, and class loyalties. The most concise explanation is simple: the Democratic coalition of southern segregationists, blacks, and the working class came apart. The rise of the New Left, Counter culture, black militancy, riots, and the working class becoming middleclass under one roof fractured...a fracture that began in the new south border states and spread to the deep south.

And once segregation was buried and race became much less of an issue in the South, the traditional values of the white working class and "common man" started voting Republican. George Wallace's attempt at a third party failed, and that was that. If you didn't identify with the New Left, SF hippies, anti-war America military haters, drugs, welfare, or free sex the Democratic party liberalism wasn't going to cater to Baptists, bible belt, and other traditional lifestyles.

The term "SF Democrat" and "Liberal" wrote off the Southern as a bunch of racist boobs ... and naturally they went elsewhere. In short, the GOP didn't need to change their conservative and small federal government views, they only had to wait for the South to quit a party that didn't want them.

Although I could give you several links, I start with the first one and see if you surprise me and read it.

America not racist anymore? Seems almost laughable.There is a reason why Donald Trump still doesn’t get laughed out of town with all his lies about cat-eating Haitians, or that all Mexican asylum seekers are murderers and rapists and “poisoning the blood of our country”. His lies for 6 years straight about how we’re not going to believe what his “top people” are finding on Obama’s secret Kenyan birth certificate not only don’t get laughed at, but become the very hook that propel him to national politics.


But anyway, let’s go with it for now. Yet even so, I wish you would be as outraged at these simplistic accusations being made here that the Democrats are the party of racism because the KKK was Democrat in the 1920s.
 
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What precisely was wrong about teaching children about the history of slavery in the colonies and the US? It proposes one view of that history that can be countered by others.
It’s clear you have no idea what the 1619 Project was about. It was not just “teaching … about the history slavery.” It argued that 1619, no 1776, was the nation’s founding and that the Revolutionary War was fought primarily to maintain the system of slavery, Those assertions are propaganda.
 
Forget indoctrination. The problem with the public school system is that kids aren’t learning anything.
 
I am chalking it up as yet something else politics has destroyed, our public education system. Agreed with others, our kids are not really learning all that much these days, and when matched up to the typical nations we are compared to it is game, set, match for that conclusion.
 
I am chalking it up as yet something else politics has destroyed, our public education system. Agreed with others, our kids are not really learning all that much these days, and when matched up to the typical nations we are compared to it is game, set, match for that conclusion.

OK, but do their grades and graduation rates reflect that (bolded above) fact?
 

PragerU has been lobbying red states for inclusion into the curriculum and finding some success in red states. This is concerning to all people who wish their kids receive an education in their school.

PragerU is not a university, it is a YouTube channel that pushes conservative propaganda. It has no place in the classroom, as an educational resource
Prager U has no historical credibility and it is obviously a propaganda mill. Every one of their accusations is a confession. Their columbus video is just straight up lies. These guys are like creationists that cry when their lies cant get past peer review.
 
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