Is common sense so common in america today?

[presluc]

And this is why all of your "ideas", so-called, are wrong. You people can't even get your basic history right.

Populists are trash.

Populist are trash?, it was people are trash during the French revolution wasn't it?
We know how that turned out one day people got tired of be called trash and a few days later some heads come off.eace

 

[ttwtt78640]

Well since you researched how much the government is spending on the poor I thought you might have went on to see how much the government is spending on the rich, or did you just get to the poor and s t o p ?eace

They are spending a lot so that Obama can play golf and travel around raising campaign cash. You show me what they are spending on "the rich". I have shown you $1 trillion (or about 25%) of federal spending is going to about 15% of the US folks, that averages out to $60K per year for each poor "family" when you include the state share as well.

Over $60,000 in Welfare Spent Per Household in Poverty

'Welfare Spending Equates to $168 Per Day for Every Household in Poverty' | The Weekly Standard

 

[polgara]

Hi Lady P - nice to see you again.

As to your question, the liberal government's increases in the debt come from three areas in the main part. First, they are friends of the public unions who fund political ads and actions that assist in their elections and the government has given the public unions gross increases in salary upwards of 30% over that 10 years - a fully qualified classroom teacher now makes almost $100,000. Secondly, they have gone all in on green energy wasting billions of dollars on solar and wind power initiatives that the public doesn't want and that have dramatically increased our costs of electricity and made many businesses non-competitive because of their energy costs. Thirdly, and this is not their fault, healthcare costs have greatly increased over that period of time. They've also had several billion dollar scandals involving gas plants, emergency air ambulance services, computerized health care records, etc.

Thanks, CJ.

 

[GottaGo]

Well if you want politics why didn't you ask?
Jackson A.
Rosevelt F. D.
Kennedy J.F.
NEED I GO ONeace

And what did they 'pull from thin air'?

 

[AmericanWoman76]

"Common sense is the most evenly distributed quantity in the world. Everyone thinks he has enough." - Descartes

Odd ,I thought the French Vichy was a colabarator of the Nazis during world War 2eace

people can collaborate, buildings cannot. the French were our allies. French people existed who collaborated with the Nazis. English people and Americans also existed who collaborated with the Nazis.

 

[polgara]

As a student of history, this is one of my biggest pet peeves.

The idea that "Rome went decadent" is completely unfounded historically. The Gracchan reforms - the distribution of surplus grain to the peasantry of Rome - was instituted in 123 B.C. The Western Roman Empire survived until the deposition of Romulus Augustulus in 476 A.D.. That's a space of nearly six hundred years.

There were many reasons why Rome eventually failed in the West as a political unit, but the subsidization of food to the poor isn't it.

I am also a student of Roman history, and am fully aware of why Rome fell.

You have missed the point of my post if you assumed I was blaming the subsidization of food for their downfall. We both know better.

 

[StringBean]

ideologies almost never correlate to actual realities. I am tired of political parties on all ends of the spectrum acting as though their one-size-fits-all ideological band-aids exist in any really tangible way.

The politicians that invoke "common sense" almost invariably offer mushy, reheated centrist pablum. And mushy, reheated centrist pablum is the opposite of a politics of ideas.

So which is it you hate: the "common sense" of ideology or the "common sense" of centrism?

Or do you just hate everyone and think you are the arbiter of what is good for all others?

 

[Canell]

Common sense = collective subconsciousness.
I say the U.S.A. need some sound mind to improve their common sense.

:twocents:

 

[Heebie Jeebie]

If common sense was so common there would be more of it. We don't have to re-invent the wheel to make progress. Building on what has worked in the past and admitting what has failed in the past and learning from these two things is a pretty basic concept.

 

[presluc]

And what did they 'pull from thin air'?

You ask for risk takers , I give you risk takers.

These are people that dared to challenge the old way of doing business with a new way , new ideas.
More than what the politicians of today have done, they just sit on their hands and say everything is as it is while America slides deeper in debt.
Check your post sir. after that check the name of this thread.eace

 

[GottaGo]

You ask for risk takers , I give you risk takers.

These are people that dared to challenge the old way of doing business with a new way , new ideas.
More than what the politicians of today have done, they just sit on their hands and say everything is as it is while America slides deeper in debt.
Check your post sir. after that check the name of this thread.eace

Taking a risk doesn't mean you disregard all that has gone before.

A sky jumper before you decides to take a risk, and doesn't clip the secondary shoot. Primary fails. He took the risk.
Are you also going to take the risk and not clip your secondary?

Common sense applies even when you take a risk. Those without it, fail.

 

[presluc]

They are spending a lot so that Obama can play golf and travel around raising campaign cash. You show me what they are spending on "the rich". I have shown you $1 trillion (or about 25%) of federal spending is going to about 15% of the US folks, that averages out to $60K per year for each poor "family" when you include the state share as well.

Over $60,000 in Welfare Spent Per Household in Poverty

'Welfare Spending Equates to $168 Per Day for Every Household in Poverty' | The Weekly Standard

Well, to say the government is not spending on the rich would be a lie we both know that.
You say the government spends 1 trillion on the poor yet there is very little money at the poor base.
Question; What does the government spend the rest of their money on?
Question ;Where can the most of the wealth in America be found?

Now I don't hold it against anybody for making as much money as they can .
However if you are to be considered a "PRIVATE COMPANY" which after you make your money, it is in fact your money that's ok by me; it's your money you made it no problem.

However that's not really the way it goes is it ?
A "PRIVATE COMPANY" that cries like a bitch to the government for taxpayer money so they can keep their company in profits on one hand and say we are not responsible for hiring American people "which are the taxpayers" on the other?
A PRIVATE COMPANY to go crying like a bitch for more research money from taxpayers for alternative fuel on one hand , while saying drill baby drill on the other.

A "PRIVATE COMPANY " ran by private people , paid for with taxpayer money???

In my book THAT IS NOT A "PRIVATE COMPANY"???eace

 

[presluc]

Taking a risk doesn't mean you disregard all that has gone before.

A sky jumper before you decides to take a risk, and doesn't clip the secondary shoot. Primary fails. He took the risk.
Are you also going to take the risk and not clip your secondary?

Common sense applies even when you take a risk. Those without it, fail.

First of all we are talking about risk on the ground very few politicians go skydiving.
Second of all if I did not know all about skydiving I would not attempt to skydive.
Third of all if I did not have the money for lessons how to skydive I would attempt a different method of making the money I need.
A COMMON SENSE LESSON FREE OF CHARGE.eace

 

[presluc]

people can collaborate, buildings cannot. the French were our allies. French people existed who collaborated with the Nazis. English people and Americans also existed who collaborated with the Nazis.

Tell me how did those that collaborated with the Nazis and English turn out?
Seems the word TORY and women getting their head shaved comes to mind , and the Russians were a bit harder on collaborators death or gulag.
Study your history a little bit.eace

 

[GottaGo]

First of all we are talking about risk on the ground very few politicians go skydiving.
Second of all if I did not know all about skydiving I would not attempt to skydive.
Third of all if I did not have the money for lessons how to skydive I would attempt a different method of making the money I need.
A COMMON SENSE LESSON FREE OF CHARGE.eace

If you can't understand the example I posted, then there is not a whole lot help I can offer.

 

[presluc]

Common sense = collective subconsciousness.
I say the U.S.A. need some sound mind to improve their common sense.

:twocents:

I can not speak for all of America , but I for one work on that everyday.

However no matter the nation each is faced with trial and error , error and trial, victories and defeats.eace

my two cents.

 

[presluc]

If common sense was so common there would be more of it. We don't have to re-invent the wheel to make progress. Building on what has worked in the past and admitting what has failed in the past and learning from these two things is a pretty basic concept.

Well America's economic system isn't the best, America's infrastructure isn't the best, and trade is well?, Progress is an upgrade called an Iphone and the next step in Alternative fuel is more talk.

The past= the great depression = ticker tape promises based on a house of cards.
The present PRINTING MORE MONEY, CREDIT CARDS TRADE DEFICIT BASED ON A HOUSE OF CARDS.
We learn anything???eace

 

[presluc]

If you can't understand the example I posted, then there is not a whole lot help I can offer.

So the common sense lesson didn't work huh?eace

 

[GottaGo]

So the common sense lesson didn't work huh?eace

Apparently, not for you. :wink:

 

[ttwtt78640]

Well, to say the government is not spending on the rich would be a lie we both know that.
You say the government spends 1 trillion on the poor yet there is very little money at the poor base.
Question; What does the government spend the rest of their money on?
Question ;Where can the most of the wealth in America be found?

Now I don't hold it against anybody for making as much money as they can .
However if you are to be considered a "PRIVATE COMPANY" which after you make your money, it is in fact your money that's ok by me; it's your money you made it no problem.

However that's not really the way it goes is it ?
A "PRIVATE COMPANY" that cries like a bitch to the government for taxpayer money so they can keep their company in profits on one hand and say we are not responsible for hiring American people "which are the taxpayers" on the other?
A PRIVATE COMPANY to go crying like a bitch for more research money from taxpayers for alternative fuel on one hand , while saying drill baby drill on the other.

A "PRIVATE COMPANY " ran by private people , paid for with taxpayer money???

In my book THAT IS NOT A "PRIVATE COMPANY"???eace

Nice rant. Perhaps a link to this "private company" that you reference would help.

 

[presluc]

Apparently, not for you. :wink:

Let me get this straight I have the common sense to learn about skydiving before I skydive , to do that it takes money , so if in my present condition I am not making money , to use my common sense I would change my present condition.
This is not common sense???eace

 

[fmw]

I do: "common sense" is the lack of understanding, the desire to not have to think too heavily about problems.

Not at all. Common sense is the acceptance or rejection of idea based on logic rather than opinion. As the OP said, it isn't logical or common sensical to operate the government on borrowed money. A high level of intelligence isn't required to know this.

 

[AlabamaPaul]

Not at all. Common sense is the acceptance or rejection of idea based on logic rather than opinion. As the OP said, it isn't logical or common sensical to operate the government on borrowed money. A high level of intelligence isn't required to know this.

One question, was it logical to fight for our independence or in WWII, both of with were financed through borrowing?

 

[presluc]

Nice rant. Perhaps a link to this "private company" that you reference would help.

Why provide a link when it is common knowledge.

So called "PRIVATE COMPANIES" AIG, PRIVATE COMPANY, GMC, PRIVATE COMPANY, FREDDY MAC PRIVATE COMPANY, Haliburtian "no bid contract" PRIVATE COMPANY, EXXON PRIVATE COMPANY, all got money from taxpayers.
Corporations and the rich and political puppets are always telling working people "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" .
Perhaps they should practice what they preach.
For the kicker since when does the American government pay billionaires to pay taxes???eace

 

[presluc]

One question, was it logical to fight for our independence or in WWII, both of with were financed through borrowing?

Check your history for our Independence a lot of people made sacrifices and not only the poor.

As for World War 2 ever hear of the word rations, cutbacks and for the record which nation did we outsource labor to then?eace