NoLeftNoRight
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I don't think what we're seeing going on politically and culturally in this nation is just another round of "disagreements"....I think it's deeper than that.
A house divided against itself will not stand....Abraham Lincoln
What's at stake is the very essence of what these United States represents and how it will go forward. If much of the Left gets it's way, Socialism will become the mainstream accepted way of handling social issues. Government will become the sole controller of most economic and social structure and resources. Christianity will become a discouraged if not penalized institution.
The military will be sidelined and diminished in favor of expanded social welfare programs benefiting the selected groups.
While democrats have advocated open borders, reduced US global influence, less use of domestic energy resources, heavy burdens of government regulations supposedly to curb global warming, and trade policies that do not put the USA first, Republicans generally go the opposite direction. You decide which direction is best for America.
Today we are extremely politically, racially, economically and culturally divided and some historians site this as one of the prime catalysts of the Civil War of the 1800's.
However, the fracturing today is on even more fronts and issues than in the 1800's.
Motivation
Perman and Taylor (2010) say that historians are of two minds on why millions of men seemed so eager to fight, suffer and die over four years:
Some historians emphasize that Civil War soldiers were driven by political ideology, holding firm beliefs about the importance of liberty, Union, or state rights, or about the need to protect or to destroy slavery. Others point to less overtly political reasons to fight, such as the defense of one's home and family, or the honor and brotherhood to be preserved when fighting alongside other men. Most historians agree that no matter what a soldier thought about when he went into the war, the experience of combat affected him profoundly and sometimes altered his reasons for continuing the fight.[117]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War
Even liberal social justice warriors are warning of coming Civil War....
The Coming of America's Second Civil War | The Huffington Post
Are we not already at a point of severe disunity?
Do you see all these differences as simply "resolving" themselves?
It seems each year is bringing an escalation. During the Obama years, most of the protesting was done online. VERY few open public outbursts or disruptions of civil order were seen.
In stark contrast, the very nomination of Trump has set the left into very public, very disruptive and often very violent public demonstrations. The right did not attempt to sway the electoral college the way the left recently did.
Those calling themselves Progressive or Liberal are in fact waging an increasing resistance to those calling themselves Conservatives or Right wing.
Will the left settle down or will the right simply cave in and gradually accept all the left demands?
Or, will all this eventually culminate in a 2nd American Civil War?
A house divided against itself will not stand....Abraham Lincoln
What's at stake is the very essence of what these United States represents and how it will go forward. If much of the Left gets it's way, Socialism will become the mainstream accepted way of handling social issues. Government will become the sole controller of most economic and social structure and resources. Christianity will become a discouraged if not penalized institution.
The military will be sidelined and diminished in favor of expanded social welfare programs benefiting the selected groups.
While democrats have advocated open borders, reduced US global influence, less use of domestic energy resources, heavy burdens of government regulations supposedly to curb global warming, and trade policies that do not put the USA first, Republicans generally go the opposite direction. You decide which direction is best for America.
Today we are extremely politically, racially, economically and culturally divided and some historians site this as one of the prime catalysts of the Civil War of the 1800's.
However, the fracturing today is on even more fronts and issues than in the 1800's.
Motivation
Perman and Taylor (2010) say that historians are of two minds on why millions of men seemed so eager to fight, suffer and die over four years:
Some historians emphasize that Civil War soldiers were driven by political ideology, holding firm beliefs about the importance of liberty, Union, or state rights, or about the need to protect or to destroy slavery. Others point to less overtly political reasons to fight, such as the defense of one's home and family, or the honor and brotherhood to be preserved when fighting alongside other men. Most historians agree that no matter what a soldier thought about when he went into the war, the experience of combat affected him profoundly and sometimes altered his reasons for continuing the fight.[117]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War
Even liberal social justice warriors are warning of coming Civil War....
The Coming of America's Second Civil War | The Huffington Post
Are we not already at a point of severe disunity?
Do you see all these differences as simply "resolving" themselves?
It seems each year is bringing an escalation. During the Obama years, most of the protesting was done online. VERY few open public outbursts or disruptions of civil order were seen.
In stark contrast, the very nomination of Trump has set the left into very public, very disruptive and often very violent public demonstrations. The right did not attempt to sway the electoral college the way the left recently did.
Those calling themselves Progressive or Liberal are in fact waging an increasing resistance to those calling themselves Conservatives or Right wing.
Will the left settle down or will the right simply cave in and gradually accept all the left demands?
Or, will all this eventually culminate in a 2nd American Civil War?
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