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IQs of prominent political figures

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Alexander the Great: IQ 180 - King of Macedonia and Conqueror of the Persian Empire.

Ghekis Khan: IQ 180 - founder of the Mongol Empire, which became the largest contiguous empire in history after his death.

Elizabeth I: IQ 180 - considered by many to be the greatest monarch in English history. When she became queen in 1558, she was twenty-five years old, a survivor of scandal and danger. She inherited a bankrupt nation, torn by religious discord, a weakened pawn between the great powers of France and Spain.

Karl Marx: IQ 180 - a philosopher, economist, sociologist, historian, journalist, and revolutionary socialist who published The Communist Manifesto, the most celebrated pamphlet in the socialist movement.

Benjamin Nethanyahu: IQ 180 - a former Israeli special forces commando, diplomat and politician. He is currently the 17th Prime Minister of Israel.

Thomas Jefferson: IQ 178 - an American Founding Father who was principal author of the Declaration of Independence.

Julius Caesar: IQ 177 - a Roman general and statesman who turned the Roman Republic into the powerful Roman Empire.

John Quincy Adams: IQ 175 - an American statesman who served as the sixth President of the United States from 1825 to 1829. He also served as a diplomat, a Senator and member of the House of Representatives.

Benjamin Franklin: IQ 173 - one of the Founding Fathers of the United States. A renowned polymath, Franklin was a leading author, printer, political theorist, politician, freemason, postmaster, scientist, inventor, civic activist, statesman, and diplomat.

Adam Smith: IQ 170 - scottish moral philosopher, pioneer of political economy, and considered by many to be the father of capitalism.

James Madison: IQ 165 - a political theorist, American statesman, and served as the fourth President of the United States.

John Locke: IQ 165 - an English philosopher and physician, widely regarded as one of the most influential of Enlightenment thinkers and commonly known as the "Father of Liberalism".

Thomas Hobbes: IQ 165 - an English philosopher, best known today for his work on political philosophy. His 1651 book Leviathan established social contract theory, the foundation of most later Western political philosophy.

Napoleon Bonaparte: IQ 163 - a military general who became the first emperor of France. His drive for military expansion changed the world.

John Adams: IQ 155 - an American lawyer, author, statesman, and diplomat. He served as the second President of the United States, the first Vice President, and as a Founding Father was a leader of American independence from Great Britain.

Theodore Roosevelt: IQ 149 - an American statesman, author, explorer, soldier, naturalist, and reformer who served as the 26th President of the United States from 1901 to 1909.

Adolf Hitler: IQ 147 - a German politician who was Chancellor of Germany from 1933 to 1945, and Führer ("leader") of Nazi Germany from 1934 to 1945. As dictator of Nazi Germany, he initiated World War II in Europe with the invasion of Poland in September 1939 and was a central figure of the Holocaust.

Franklin D. Roosevelt: IQ 146 - Assuming the Presidency at the depth of the Great Depression, Franklin D. Roosevelt helped the American people regain faith in themselves. He brought hope as he promised prompt, vigorous action, and asserted in his Inaugural Address, "the only thing we have to fear is fear itself."

Hillary Clinton: IQ 140 - an American politician and a candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination in the 2016 election.

Barack Obama: IQ 130 - an American politician serving as the 44th President of the United States.

Vladimir Putin: IQ 127 - President of Russia since 7 May 2012, succeeding Dmitry Medvedev. Putin was Prime Minister from 1999 to 2000, President from 2000 to 2008, and again Prime Minister from 2008 to 2012. During his second term as Prime Minister, he was the Chairman of the United Russia Party, the ruling party.

George W. Bush: IQ 125 - 43rd president of the United States. He led America's response to the 9/11 attacks in 2001 and initiated the Iraq War in 2003.
 
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Whomever ginned up this list (I'm supposing it wasn't you Viking11): sub-80.
 

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How much IQ did Jefferson use when he raped one of his slaves?
 

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Whomever ginned up this list (I'm supposing it wasn't you Viking11): sub-80.

lol.... yeah.

Pure speculation, with a large dose of Leftie Propaganda.

I've actually taken I.Q. Tests three times, once in my middle school, once in the Military, and once when going to work for DOE on special projects.

I changed a bit over time, peaking in my mature youth in the military, where I scored in the top 0.0001% of the population. At the time, the score ranked as being one out of 135,000 people. Considering the entire standing military was only 1.2 Million at the time, I was one of somewhere around 20 people in the military with my level of IQ or higher.

It still did not let me get into my generations Airforce AECP college tuition scholarship program, it was given to only Blacks and Women at the time.

The tests are complex, and require a great deal of time (several days) to do correctly, and there is no possible way that an accurate assessment for I.Q. can be made for any person who is not alive to take them.

High I.Q. is nice to have, but being a double 'Designated Minority' is allot better in the Obama-Nation.

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Great, no source... :roll:

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Do you not understand what a forum is? This is not a place to post your lists.
 

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What does this useless list have to do with political debate?
 

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the dead give away to bogus is the number 180, an improbable measurement

possible but not probable as it is very difficult to measure....kids have been rejected as measuring for genius because they only measured at 125 and then later in life won the Noble Prize in physics...others have amounted to nothing
 

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Alexander the Great: IQ 180 - King of Macedonia and Conqueror of the Persian Empire.

Ghekis Khan: IQ 180 - founder of the Mongol Empire, which became the largest contiguous empire in history after his death.

Elizabeth I: IQ 180 - considered by many to be the greatest monarch in English history. When she became queen in 1558, she was twenty-five years old, a survivor of scandal and danger. She inherited a bankrupt nation, torn by religious discord, a weakened pawn between the great powers of France and Spain.

Karl Marx: IQ 180 - a philosopher, economist, sociologist, historian, journalist, and revolutionary socialist who published The Communist Manifesto, the most celebrated pamphlet in the socialist movement.

Benjamin Nethanyahu: IQ 180 - a former Israeli special forces commando, diplomat and politician. He is currently the 17th Prime Minister of Israel.

Thomas Jefferson: IQ 178 - an American Founding Father who was principal author of the Declaration of Independence.

Julius Caesar: IQ 177 - a Roman general and statesman who turned the Roman Republic into the powerful Roman Empire.

John Quincy Adams: IQ 175 - an American statesman who served as the sixth President of the United States from 1825 to 1829. He also served as a diplomat, a Senator and member of the House of Representatives.

Benjamin Franklin: IQ 173 - one of the Founding Fathers of the United States. A renowned polymath, Franklin was a leading author, printer, political theorist, politician, freemason, postmaster, scientist, inventor, civic activist, statesman, and diplomat.

Adam Smith: IQ 170 - scottish moral philosopher, pioneer of political economy, and considered by many to be the father of capitalism.

James Madison: IQ 165 - a political theorist, American statesman, and served as the fourth President of the United States.

John Locke: IQ 165 - an English philosopher and physician, widely regarded as one of the most influential of Enlightenment thinkers and commonly known as the "Father of Liberalism".

Thomas Hobbes: IQ 165 - an English philosopher, best known today for his work on political philosophy. His 1651 book Leviathan established social contract theory, the foundation of most later Western political philosophy.

Napoleon Bonaparte: IQ 163 - a military general who became the first emperor of France. His drive for military expansion changed the world.

John Adams: IQ 155 - an American lawyer, author, statesman, and diplomat. He served as the second President of the United States, the first Vice President, and as a Founding Father was a leader of American independence from Great Britain.

Theodore Roosevelt: IQ 149 - an American statesman, author, explorer, soldier, naturalist, and reformer who served as the 26th President of the United States from 1901 to 1909.

Adolf Hitler: IQ 147 - a German politician who was Chancellor of Germany from 1933 to 1945, and Führer ("leader") of Nazi Germany from 1934 to 1945. As dictator of Nazi Germany, he initiated World War II in Europe with the invasion of Poland in September 1939 and was a central figure of the Holocaust.

Franklin D. Roosevelt: IQ 146 - Assuming the Presidency at the depth of the Great Depression, Franklin D. Roosevelt helped the American people regain faith in themselves. He brought hope as he promised prompt, vigorous action, and asserted in his Inaugural Address, "the only thing we have to fear is fear itself."

Hillary Clinton: IQ 140 - an American politician and a candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination in the 2016 election.

Barack Obama: IQ 130 - an American politician serving as the 44th President of the United States.

Vladimir Putin: IQ 127 - President of Russia since 7 May 2012, succeeding Dmitry Medvedev. Putin was Prime Minister from 1999 to 2000, President from 2000 to 2008, and again Prime Minister from 2008 to 2012. During his second term as Prime Minister, he was the Chairman of the United Russia Party, the ruling party.

George W. Bush: IQ 125 - 43rd president of the United States. He led America's response to the 9/11 attacks in 2001 and initiated the Iraq War in 2003.

What would be interesting would be the technology used to establish the iq of the long dead.
 

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What would be interesting would be the technology used to establish the iq of the long dead.

there are five mentioned who are alive

comparing alternative data from other sources for each should allow us to evaluate the reasonableness of that list

bibi at 180; my impression is the list is cooked
 

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lol.... yeah.

Pure speculation, with a large dose of Leftie Propaganda.

I've actually taken I.Q. Tests three times, once in my middle school, once in the Military, and once when going to work for DOE on special projects.

I changed a bit over time, peaking in my mature youth in the military, where I scored in the top 0.0001% of the population. At the time, the score ranked as being one out of 135,000 people. Considering the entire standing military was only 1.2 Million at the time, I was one of somewhere around 20 people in the military with my level of IQ or higher.

It still did not let me get into my generations Airforce AECP college tuition scholarship program, it was given to only Blacks and Women at the time.

The tests are complex, and require a great deal of time (several days) to do correctly, and there is no possible way that an accurate assessment for I.Q. can be made for any person who is not alive to take them.

High I.Q. is nice to have, but being a double 'Designated Minority' is allot better in the Obama-Nation.

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I wondered if this self aggrandizing post was BS until I reached your "Obama-Nation" conclusion, and realized it could only be.



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Stanford-Binet: 162 - First time (circa 1968)- not revealed until I discovered results in a file years later.
Stanford-Binet: 133 - Second time (circa 1972)- given at state mental health facility.
Weschler: 143
Woodcock-Johnson: 138
Another "IQ" test I don't remember the name of, taken when applying to an IT training course: 145*
*test given to determine "ability to benefit from courses offered".
Another report in one of my elementary school files listed my indicated IQ as only 120.
An "Iowa Test of Basic Skills" was also administered to all third and fourth grade students plus another test which was scored on something called a stanine. (ERB percentile)

The reason for so many tests for me was due in part to my public school system not realizing that I was on the autism spectrum. (Asperger's)
I was also a Tourette's patient and the school system was trying to determine reasons for my early behavorial difficulties.
Little was known about autism or Tourettes in the 1960's.
I was not formally diagnosed with either until age 44.

Note the vast swing in IQ scores, which has led me to believe that the whole notion of testing for IQ is somewhere in the same category as divining for water with a forked stick.
It is very difficult to believe that anyone would have scores that cover a range of as much as forty-two points, with the score of 162 being as hard for me to believe as the score of 120.
It cannot possibly be anywhere near 162 because my non-verbal battery scores are always much lower due to my poor mathematical abilities yet my verbal scores are always ridiculously high, even on very bad days.
I have no difficulty with the four basic math operations or basic algebra but have never managed to grasp anything above that level.
Numerical puzzles are always a dead end for me. Some people are "facts and figures", others are "colors and shapes".
I guess I fall into the latter category.

Last but not least, my one experience with MENSA, when I was told I qualified to join, was nothing like I imagined.
The group of people I met were some of the most undeveloped minds I'd ever encountered, perhaps possessing a high degree of native intelligence but utterly lacking in conventional wisdom or emotional development.

I do not believe that there is a rational, practical or consistent method of rating a person's intelligence quotient with any kind of numerical accuracy or numerical score.
Minds and brains are not automobile engines however if they were, one must be mindful that where IQ equals horsepower, emotional maturity and wisdom equal traction thus horsepower without traction yields a mostly unusable form of intelligence, at least that which would be practical in the outside world.
 

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What would be interesting would be the technology used to establish the iq of the long dead.

Yes, how did they come to the conclusion that Goethe's IQ was an astronomical 210?
PS: I am sure some of Bibi's people wasted no time in letting BHO know that he had a 180 IQ.
 

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lol.... yeah.

Pure speculation, with a large dose of Leftie Propaganda.

I've actually taken I.Q. Tests three times, once in my middle school, once in the Military, and once when going to work for DOE on special projects.

I changed a bit over time, peaking in my mature youth in the military, where I scored in the top 0.0001% of the population. At the time, the score ranked as being one out of 135,000 people. Considering the entire standing military was only 1.2 Million at the time, I was one of somewhere around 20 people in the military with my level of IQ or higher.

It still did not let me get into my generations Airforce AECP college tuition scholarship program, it was given to only Blacks and Women at the time.

The tests are complex, and require a great deal of time (several days) to do correctly, and there is no possible way that an accurate assessment for I.Q. can be made for any person who is not alive to take them.

High I.Q. is nice to have, but being a double 'Designated Minority' is allot better in the Obama-Nation.

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Huh, it seems such a brilliant person would have read enough to know that "allot" is not a word. Certainly, they would have read enough to know for how long being male and white were the primary qualifications for just about everything good. It just goes to show you that IQ can be an unrealized potential and does not correlate well to the individual ability to reason.
 
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