• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Iowa Poll: Kamala Harris leapfrogs Donald Trump to take lead near Election Day

Beruit 1978 said:
Presume, much? No, I most certainly don't approve of Operation Ajax. TBH, I wasn't born yet when that took place - and at 70, you're only 1 1/2 or 2 years older than I am, so you don't remember it either. The Islamic Republic of Iran only exists because we overthrew a healthy democracy.

Vietnam unfolded as I was growing up. My opinions on that are kinda mixed, but overall, I disapprove of the lies and subterfuge on our part to drag us into the war. It was more about protecting a strategic resource (rubber) and DuPont profits than it was about communism.

Trump, and GOP traitors, huh? Well, Trump was a Democrat for much longer than he's been diddling with the Republican party. He's not really a Republican at all - he's a Rino like so many other hangers-on.

And, as for being a Trump fan - I don't even like Trump. My "support" for Trump consists of voting for the lesser evil. Harris a vacuous creature who will be a tool for Establishment Joe's masters. Joe was senile when he was elected, and Kamala is as empty headed as a politician can be. Both of them have been tools.

Trump has a myriad of faults, but he's nobody's tool. He stymied the Establishment's goals while he was in office last time, and he'll do the same this time. That pleases me. Doesn't mean I like Trump, or support him, or even have a lot of respect for him. It means I would vote for almost anyone, before I voted for the Democrat offering. As for the Republican party - I've been a registered Independent since 1974. I have no loyalty to any party. My loyalty is to the United States, and I don't think either party has my country's best interests at heart.

Do you have any more presumptions that I might address here?
Click to expand...
You forgot

Trump was some ones fool

Lil Kim played him like a cheap violin

Putin also played Trump like a chump in Helsinki

You have selective memory loss ?
 
RaleBulgarian said:
That’s right. The much revered Des Moines Register of the deep red state of Iowa places Harris ahead of Traitor Trump.
  • Democrat Kamala Harris leads Donald Trump in Iowa 47% to 44%, a new Des Moines Register/Mediacom Iowa Poll shows.
  • A victory for Harris would be a shocking development after Iowa has swung aggressively to the right in recent elections, delivering Trump solid victories in 2016 and 2020.
  • The poll shows that women — particularly those who are older or are politically independent — are driving the late shift toward Harris.
  • Trump continues to lead with his core base of support: men, evangelicals, rural residents and those without a college degree.
www.desmoinesregister.com

Iowa Poll: Kamala Harris leapfrogs Donald Trump to take lead near Election Day. Here's how

The new Iowa Poll shows Kamala Harris leading Donald Trump by 3 points. Pollster J. Ann Selzer: “It’s hard for anybody to say they saw this coming.”
www.desmoinesregister.com

A sign of what we’ll see on Tuesday?
Click to expand...

This is a type of poll meant to demoralize turnout rather than try to predict it.

You saw the same thing in 2020 with Wisconsin. They claimed Biden was up by 20 points and he won by .2 points.

The fact that it is being trumpeted like this shows exactly why it is a manipulated result created to create and support a narrative.
 
trumptman said:
This is a type of poll meant to demoralize turnout rather than try to predict it.

You saw the same thing in 2020 with Wisconsin. They claimed Biden was up by 20 points and he won by .2 points.

The fact that it is being trumpeted like this shows exactly why it is a manipulated result created to create and support a narrative.
Click to expand...
LOL, Harris wins Iowa and I'll eat my hat.
 
JMR said:
Living in a solidly blue state I don't see many Trump commercials, until I saw one tonight. Three very elderly ladies sitting at a table in a coffee shop talking.....saying they are democrats, and have NEVER voted for a Republican, BUT Trump, he is going to protect us, so we will vote for Trump. Kind of laughable. I doubt Trump is getting any women converts, but I welcome him spending his money on his lost cause here.
Click to expand...

I haven’t seen many commercials, but the last couple of days, I’ve seen more Trump commercials than Harris commercials, which makes no sense to me.

Alabama is a done deal, dude.

What I’ve been seeing for months is the same commercial from the Alabama SoS, yammering about how Alabama takes election security seriously. This was never a thing until an election was lost, and somebody cried about it for years.

Now all of a sudden, it’s derr derr we have to make sure no one cheats in the election, despite the fact that there is no proof that anyone has really cheated during the voting process.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
That’s right. The much revered Des Moines Register of the deep red state of Iowa places Harris ahead of Traitor Trump.
  • Democrat Kamala Harris leads Donald Trump in Iowa 47% to 44%, a new Des Moines Register/Mediacom Iowa Poll shows.
  • A victory for Harris would be a shocking development after Iowa has swung aggressively to the right in recent elections, delivering Trump solid victories in 2016 and 2020.
  • The poll shows that women — particularly those who are older or are politically independent — are driving the late shift toward Harris.
  • Trump continues to lead with his core base of support: men, evangelicals, rural residents and those without a college degree.
www.desmoinesregister.com

Iowa Poll: Kamala Harris leapfrogs Donald Trump to take lead near Election Day. Here's how

The new Iowa Poll shows Kamala Harris leading Donald Trump by 3 points. Pollster J. Ann Selzer: “It’s hard for anybody to say they saw this coming.”
www.desmoinesregister.com

A sign of what we’ll see on Tuesday?
Click to expand...
Who knows. I've made it a point to just glance at polling because things are so close that they're pretty much irrelevant when one factor in the margin of error.
 
Plasmaball said:
But it doesn't because ann has been touted as the gold standard for the past 8 years at least.

There are a few factors at play if you read the break down.
You have Harris up 3
Or a tie given the margin of error
Or plausible that Trump is up 3 IF the Kennedy votes all break for him.

But let's say Trump wins Iowa by 3% that's bad overall for him.
Click to expand...
Yes it is.
 
j brown's body said:
That would be a wild surprise, but beyond that, what is the poll revealing to us that could be applied to other Midwest states?
Click to expand...
What are polls in other midwest states revealing to us that could be applied to this poll?
 
These Iowa poll results are very encouraging. I believe that the majority of Independents and Undecideds have now decided they simply cannot vote for someone as disgusting as Trump. I read through the article in the OP and pulled out some encouraging snippets.

Similarly, senior voters who are 65 and older favor Harris. But senior women support her by a more than 2-to-1 margin, 63% to 28%, while senior men favor her by just 2 percentage points, 47% to 45%.

Independent likely voters, who have supported Trump in every other Iowa Poll this year, now favor Harris, 46% to 39%.

Overall, Harris holds a 20-point lead with women, 56% to 36%, similar to where she was in September.
But Trump’s lead with men has shrunk from 27 points in September (59% to 32%) to 14 points today (52% to 38%).

Harris’ larger support among likely voters 65 and older, who prefer her 55% to 36%, could be a boon, because older Iowans tend to be more reliable voters and show up at disproportionately higher rates.

Trump leads with those living in rural areas (55% to 35%) and those living in towns (49% to 40%). But Harris carries those in cities (61% to 33%) and suburbs (59% to 36%).

Among those without a college degree, Trump leads 51% to 39%. And Harris gets those with a college degree, 61% to 31%.
 
This could be an indication that Harris has claimed the middle ground and Trump is seen as extremist.

Maybe her appearances with Liz Cheney are paying off.
 
j brown's body said:
This could be an indication that Harris has claimed the middle ground and Trump is seen as extremist.

Maybe her appearances with Liz Cheney are paying off.
Click to expand...
Or it could be that a large number of Iowans have just seen too much crazy from Trump over the last week or so.

MSG rally with Nazi overtones
Death threat to Liz Cheney
Garbage truck incident
Dancing for 40 minutes at town hall
Enemy from within comment
Puerto Rico and garbage
“Whether the women like it or not” comment
 
RedFishBlueFish said:
These Iowa poll results are very encouraging. I believe that the majority of Independents and Undecideds have now decided they simply cannot vote for someone as disgusting as Trump. I read through the article in the OP and pulled out some encouraging snippets.

Similarly, senior voters who are 65 and older favor Harris. But senior women support her by a more than 2-to-1 margin, 63% to 28%, while senior men favor her by just 2 percentage points, 47% to 45%.

Independent likely voters, who have supported Trump in every other Iowa Poll this year, now favor Harris, 46% to 39%.

Overall, Harris holds a 20-point lead with women, 56% to 36%, similar to where she was in September.
But Trump’s lead with men has shrunk from 27 points in September (59% to 32%) to 14 points today (52% to 38%).

Harris’ larger support among likely voters 65 and older, who prefer her 55% to 36%, could be a boon, because older Iowans tend to be more reliable voters and show up at disproportionately higher rates.

Trump leads with those living in rural areas (55% to 35%) and those living in towns (49% to 40%). But Harris carries those in cities (61% to 33%) and suburbs (59% to 36%).

Among those without a college degree, Trump leads 51% to 39%. And Harris gets those with a college degree, 61% to 31%.
Click to expand...

My wife doesn't follow politics very much. But she laughed her ass off when I told her that senior women favor Harris 2-to-1. "Maybe in San Francisco!"
 
ElChupacabra said:
Who knows. I've made it a point to just glance at polling because things are so close that they're pretty much irrelevant when one factor in the margin of error.
Click to expand...
The point of the thread isn’t to suggest that Harris will win Iowa’s 6 electoral votes.

It’s the remarkableness of The Des Moines Register, often referred to by many other pollsters/political pundits as “the gold standard” of Iowa polling, putting her ahead of Traitor Trump in the traditionally deep red state.
 
Beruit 1978 said:
My wife doesn't follow politics very much. But she laughed her ass off when I told her that senior women favor Harris 2-to-1. "Maybe in San Francisco!"
Click to expand...
Maybe you should ask her how many women over 65 like watching Trump miming oral sex on a microphone. Or saying he will do things to benefit women whether women like it or not. Or simply ask her how many women of that age would like to see a woman president before they die.

Exit polling will show us results from this demographic group.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
Please educate yourself regarding The Des Moines Register’s accuracy track record on presidential campaign polling.
Click to expand...

I did. Ann Selzer has been wrong in the past. She doesn't have 50 years of consistently accurate predictions. And, she has thrown away her reputation this time around, in an attempt to herd the election. As I suggested earlier, if your house pet had accurately predicted elections for decades (and it was documented) I would pay attention. Selzer's record was only moderately impressive, and she has thrown that away.
 
RedFishBlueFish said:
Maybe you should ask her how many women over 65 like watching Trump miming oral sex on a microphone. Or saying he will do things to benefit women whether women like it or not. Or simply ask her how many women of that age would like to see a woman president before they die.

Exit polling will show us results from this demographic group.
Click to expand...

All covered. She mostly likes the same women I do. Tulsi might get her vote. Hillary didn't, and Kamala won't. We have our disagreements, I'll make excuses to her over some ass in politics, and she'll make excuses to me for some other ass. But we are in agreement that the Democrats have not yet offered a decent female candidate for president of the United States.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
The point of the thread isn’t to suggest that Harris will win Iowa’s 6 electoral votes.

It’s the remarkableness of The Des Moines Register, often referred to by many other pollsters/political pundits as “the gold standard” of Iowa polling, putting her ahead of Traitor Trump in the traditionally deep red state.
Click to expand...
Agree. But.... hey, there's been news stories about the single electoral vote from the Omaha area of Nebraska and how it could tip the scales. So.....
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom