Intel contractors on CIA's payroll colluded with the Biden campaign to discredit Hunter's laptop as 'Russian disinfo,' bombshell report

[eohrnberger]

And this is how the democrats want to run our country. This is free choice by an informed public. It's manipulation with help of a corrupt left wind media, a corrupt leftist leaning FBI, CIA, DOJ that are determined to hold onto power and go charging into progressive lala land at the risk of destroying the USA. They don't care because they want the power and as long as they have it they will do anything to keep it. Clearly the left that thinks it's so smart and educated can't see the deception being shoved down their throats. They seem to like it.

This is also an example of how the US Intel agencies have been politicized and wielded as political weapons.
Deep State anyone?
Yeah, here's an example of it in action.

 

[Pyrite]

Intel contractors on CIA's payroll colluded< let that sink in the CIA knew the laptop was real because the FBI had it and knew it authentic.
Blinken not only solicited the infamous "51 former INTEL officials" It looks like he overrode the CIA cautions because that came from the candidate .... Can you say ELECTION INTERFERENCE!! *big time*

Intel contractors on CIA's payroll colluded to discredit Hunter laptop

Some ex-intelligence officials were actively being paid by the CIA on a contract basis when they signed the letter that falsely claimed Hunter Biden's laptop was 'Russian disinformation.'

www.dailymail.co.uk

Morell was the one who organized the letter after a call from now-Secretary of State Antony Blinken. He said he did it to give Biden a 'talking point' in the lead-up to the 2020 election when Trump attacked him for the laptop that was later verified to be his son's.

high-ranking CIA officials were made aware of the letter before its publishing and some raised concerns about the political nature of the letter.

'The signatories’ decision to leverage their former intelligence community titles to promote a narrative about foreign election interference improperly embroiled the [CIA] in domestic politics,' the report states saying it.. 'underscores the potential dangers of a politicized intelligence community.'

claimed that damning pictures and messages found on Hunter Biden's laptop bore the earmarks of a Russian disinformation campaign
allowed Joe to discredit the laptop and its damning evidence during presidential debates, town halls and other media appearances prior to his election.
~~
....Cammack continued: 'We know that the intel community never operates in absolutes and the fact that we had 51 come forward and try to put forward a narrative that this was disinformation, misinformation when everyone knew full well that it wasn't, that it was very real.'

She said the revelation is evidence of the weaponization and politicization of the Department of Justice (DOJ).

Factual Reporting: LOW

Credibility Rating: LOW

Overall, we rate Daily Mail Right Biased and Questionable due to numerous failed fact checks and poor information sourcing.

 

[Fletch]

Why don't you go ahead and post exactly what they said that was a lie. Don't half-ass it either. Provide exact quotes and sources.

That's an exercise for you, not for me, because I already know what they said and there's no way it could be a lie. If that doesn't make sense to you, then do your homework and learn something.

Whatever you read from that group was a lie. And an intentional one.

 

[Fletch]

No you try again...and again...and again...from your own link.

"Brian Della Rocca, the lawyer for the shop owner, provided to CBS News what he called an "exact copy" of the laptop data provided to federal investigators nearly three years ago. Della Rocca said he considers it "clean" because it predates versions that were widely circulated by Republican operatives to attack then-candidate Joe Biden before the 2020 presidential election. "
"Some other versions of the laptop data circulated later appeared to have had data added after April 2019, a sign they could have been tampered with, according to reports in other media outlets, including The Washington Post.


Which is what I've always said. There is reason to believe the copy was tampered with. Thank you for your support.

Had these 51 deep state apparatchiks said they believed the laptop may have been tampered with in some way, that would be one thing. But they didnt. They lied and said it was Russian disinformation. Now you go back to defending the indefensible.

 

[Callen]

Had these 51 deep state apparatchiks said they believed the laptop may have been tampered with in some way, that would be one thing. But they didnt. They lied and said it was Russian disinformation. Now you go back to defending the indefensible.

That's not what they said.....read what they actually said again

 

[redbeer]

What do you mean "the left" ?? Despite the stated aims and ongoing efforts to impeach Biden since before he was even inaugurated, the uber-right-wing-nut Republican Congress hasn't found any corruption on Joe Biden's part in 3-1/2 years. None! ZERO!!

The only people turning a blind eye on corruption are the idiot acolytes on the right, who deny Trump's nearly 40 year history of well documented corruption, including multiple libel convictions for money laundering, tax evasion and FRAUD! Talk about denial! It is the Trump Crime Family that reigns supreme in US politics, and no other.

When compared to Trump, Biden is so clean you could eat sashimi off his ass.
It is truly the denial on the right that is nothing short of breathtaking!

Yeah, "eating sashimi off Biden's ass"......it's what the left does....

 

[redbeer]

This gets brought up all the time by some on the right, but this was always about the concerns around the hard drive, since there were concerns of tampering. The timing of this was also highly suspect, which is why many news outlets were hesitant to run with it - including Fox News.


That's because it's what some want to see, but what cannot be demonstrated via evidence, is the actual connection. So please, feel free to show where that direct link actually is. After the investigation's findings, the real argument you seem to be floating is everyone should come to that conclusion in spite of any direct evidence.

Unbelievable deniability. They have more on "good ole Joe" than they ever had on Trump. Hell, the corrupt sob's had to make up the "Steele Dossier" and put the country through an attempted coup.

 

[eohrnberger]

Try to focus on my words.....I quoted the part from YOUR link that contradicted what YOU said....done!

My how proud you must be.

I quoted the part from MY link that contradicted what YOU said.

 

[Callen]

My how proud you must be.

I quoted the part from MY link that contradicted what YOU said.

I'm not the fool who posted a link contradicting their own point. ....you being you as they say

 

[ElChupacabra]

Unbelievable deniability. They have more on "good ole Joe" than they ever had on Trump. Hell, the corrupt sob's had to make up the "Steele Dossier" and put the country through an attempted coup.

Unbelievable wishful thinking. In all of the evidence presented thus far, what's been absent is a financial audit proving all of this out. If this is all as concrete as you claim it is, I look forward to seeing the House Committee refer those specific charges to the DOJ if Biden is not re-elected. There's loads of speculation, I'll definitely give you that.

 

[redbeer]

Unbelievable wishful thinking. In all of the evidence presented thus far, what's been absent is a financial audit proving all of this out. If this is all as concrete as you claim it is, I look forward to seeing the House Committee refer those specific charges to the DOJ if Biden is not re-elected. There's loads of speculation, I'll definitely give you that.

The eyewitness testimony is enough for many to never vote for Joe Biden again......at least the nonpartisan people, the extreme left will vote for Biden if he were dead, that's how far they're gone.

I hope the day comes wherein Joe is held accountable for his crimes against America. In the meantime, he should never hold public office again.

 

[MamboDervish]

The eyewitness testimony is enough for many to never vote for Joe Biden again......at least the nonpartisan people, the extreme left will vote for Biden if he were dead, that's how far they're gone.

This is not only bullshit, it is foolish bullshit. It is, in fact, "the extreme left" that is responsible for Biden's low approval ratings. Unlike the unrepentant recidivist convicted criminal fraud Trump, who gets a complete pass on anything he does by both the right wing-nuts, AND his idiot acolytes, Biden, the lifelong Centrist, gets hammered from both sides of the political spectrum. The extreme left thinks he's too right wing!

I hope the day comes wherein Joe is held accountable for his crimes against America.

Biden has no crimes against America.

In the meantime, he should never hold public office again.

A non-issue. You can rest assured that after his second term in the White House, he will never run for any public office again. In fact, he might even retire from politics before he finishes his upcoming term.

 

[ebradenton]

It's been the left using Hunter's dick pics and drug use to undermine the truth of the emails within the laptop. The emails testify to the corrupt Biden family practices, selling out the USA. Nobody gives a damn about those stupid pics......it's the host of emails, but nice detraction, lol.

@Fletch
@eohrnberger
The laptop was a real thing. The Russian-fueled rumors that it had evidence of Joe's crimes were lies. Pointing this out was not election interference.
Hope you enjoyed my Ted talk.

House Republican Report Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by President Biden (Published 2023)

After months of investigation and many public accusations of corruption against Mr. Biden and his family, the first report of the premier House G.O.P. inquiry showed no proof of such misconduct.

www.nytimes.com

 

[ElChupacabra]

The eyewitness testimony is enough for many to never vote for Joe Biden again......at least the nonpartisan people, the extreme left will vote for Biden if he were dead, that's how far they're gone.

Even that was pretty sketchy since you had varying accounts of what went on and the level of involvement by Joe Biden. Even without a partisan hat on it was clear everything gathered was more in the hearsay category. It's hard to believe that Joe Biden was running the racket some are claiming yet no one can do an audit to directly tie the money to the supposed "Big Guy" who is both a senile old fool and a criminal mastermind all in one.

What is interesting here, is you state a person who has not been charged with any wrong doing should be the one no one ever votes for, yet people should vote in to office a convicted criminal for the first time ever in US history and establish that precedent. I'm not sure how that doesn't fall into the "that's how far they're gone" category.

I hope the day comes wherein Joe is held accountable for his crimes against America. In the meantime, he should never hold public office again.

I'm all for people being held accountable, but if it's based on the information gathered thus far, it would be a really weak case based on circumstantial evidence.

 

[gbg3]

And this is how the democrats want to run our country. This is free choice by an informed public. It's manipulation with help of a corrupt left wind media, a corrupt leftist leaning FBI, CIA, DOJ that are determined to hold onto power and go charging into progressive lala land at the risk of destroying the USA. They don't care because they want the power and as long as they have it they will do anything to keep it. Clearly the left that thinks it's so smart and educated can't see the deception being shoved down their throats. They seem to like it.

I think the deception has become so obvious, it's now just expected and well understood. I don't think the left is able to use narratives to convince the public of anything anymore. Everything they push and I really mean everything, is just a fake narrative or an outright lie. The public knows that now and they either support and want those instrumental and dangerously influential lies to be the norm or they'll vote that crap out. It's remarkable where we've arrived. What happened with those 51 really should be the final straw which ultimately brings this nation back to sanity. Everything about the Hunter laptop - how long it was known by the FBI to be real, how the accurate NY Post story was stopped, the letter from the 51, the Russian disinformation narrative made up about it, the magnitude of its contents, and now this organization by the White House of the letter signed by the 51. Exactly as you discussed, they will literally do anything to keep their power and they will justify all of it.

I can't help but feel enough Americans are now so unsettled and disturbed about the country now being permeated with this kind of utterly corrupt deception and control - that they will vote it out. It simply has to be more than are going to vote for it to stay and actually want the corruption to continue to solidify and define America.

 

[ebradenton]

I think the deception has become so obvious, it's now just expected and well understood. I don't think the left is able to use narratives to convince the public of anything anymore. Everything they push and I really mean everything, is just a fake narrative or an outright lie. The public knows that now and they either support and want those instrumental and dangerously influential lies to be the norm or they'll vote that crap out. It's remarkable where we've arrived. What happened with those 51 really should be the final straw which ultimately brings this nation back to sanity. Everything about the Hunter laptop - how long it was known by the FBI to be real, how the accurate NY Post story was stopped, the letter from the 51, the Russian disinformation narrative made up about it, the magnitude of its contents, and now this organization by the White House of the letter signed by the 51. Exactly as you discussed, they will literally do anything to keep their power and they will justify all of it.

I can't help but feel enough Americans are now so unsettled and disturbed about the country now being permeated with this kind of utterly corrupt deception and control - that they will vote it out. It simply has to be more than are going to vote for it to stay and actually want the corruption to continue to solidify and define America.

House Republican Report Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by President Biden (Published 2023)

After months of investigation and many public accusations of corruption against Mr. Biden and his family, the first report of the premier House G.O.P. inquiry showed no proof of such misconduct.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Bodecea]

Intel contractors on CIA's payroll colluded< let that sink in the CIA knew the laptop was real because the FBI had it and knew it authentic.
Blinken not only solicited the infamous "51 former INTEL officials" It looks like he overrode the CIA cautions because that came from the candidate .... Can you say ELECTION INTERFERENCE!! *big time*

Intel contractors on CIA's payroll colluded to discredit Hunter laptop

Some ex-intelligence officials were actively being paid by the CIA on a contract basis when they signed the letter that falsely claimed Hunter Biden's laptop was 'Russian disinformation.'

www.dailymail.co.uk

Morell was the one who organized the letter after a call from now-Secretary of State Antony Blinken. He said he did it to give Biden a 'talking point' in the lead-up to the 2020 election when Trump attacked him for the laptop that was later verified to be his son's.

high-ranking CIA officials were made aware of the letter before its publishing and some raised concerns about the political nature of the letter.

'The signatories’ decision to leverage their former intelligence community titles to promote a narrative about foreign election interference improperly embroiled the [CIA] in domestic politics,' the report states saying it.. 'underscores the potential dangers of a politicized intelligence community.'

claimed that damning pictures and messages found on Hunter Biden's laptop bore the earmarks of a Russian disinformation campaign
allowed Joe to discredit the laptop and its damning evidence during presidential debates, town halls and other media appearances prior to his election.
~~
....Cammack continued: 'We know that the intel community never operates in absolutes and the fact that we had 51 come forward and try to put forward a narrative that this was disinformation, misinformation when everyone knew full well that it wasn't, that it was very real.'

She said the revelation is evidence of the weaponization and politicization of the Department of Justice (DOJ).

LOLOLOLOL

 

[gbg3]

And this is how the democrats want to run our country. This is free choice by an informed public. It's manipulation with help of a corrupt left wind media, a corrupt leftist leaning FBI, CIA, DOJ that are determined to hold onto power and go charging into progressive lala land at the risk of destroying the USA. They don't care because they want the power and as long as they have it they will do anything to keep it. Clearly the left that thinks it's so smart and educated can't see the deception being shoved down their throats. They seem to like it.

It's not that they don't see it. It's that the agree with it and desire it.

 

[eohrnberger]

@Fletch
@eohrnberger
The laptop was a real thing. The Russian-fueled rumors that it had evidence of Joe's crimes were lies. Pointing this out was not election interference.
Hope you enjoyed my Ted talk.

House Republican Report Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by President Biden (Published 2023)

After months of investigation and many public accusations of corruption against Mr. Biden and his family, the first report of the premier House G.O.P. inquiry showed no proof of such misconduct.

www.nytimes.com

Your citation is date May 10, 2023.
There has been a wealth of further information since then.

For example:

Published: Aug 9, 2023​

Comer Releases Third Bank Memo Detailing Payments to the Bidens from Russia, Kazakhstan, and Ukraine - United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

oversight.house.gov

So much for your baseless self-aggrandizing 'Tedtalk'.

 

[ebradenton]

Your citation is date May 10, 2023.
There has been a wealth of further information since then.

For example:

Published: Aug 9, 2023​

Comer Releases Third Bank Memo Detailing Payments to the Bidens from Russia, Kazakhstan, and Ukraine - United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

oversight.house.gov

So much for your baseless self-aggrandizing 'Tedtalk'.

Comer. LOL

 

[eohrnberger]

Comer. LOL

You are laughing off Bank Records which the Committee subpoenaed nicely summarized in a post:

There's no argument.

I see that some are playing let's shoot the messenger games in order to discredit what's known about the Bidens reaping in millions of dollars for selling Joe Biden's influence. They'd rather reelect Joe Biden than to entertain the very real possibility that there is substance to James Comer's investigation. SMH

Below is a summary of the third bank records memorandum. The full memorandum can be found here.

• Committee Staff is Releasing Payments from Russia, Kazakhstan, and Ukraine that Occurred During Joe Biden’s Vice Presidency: The Committee has now identified over $20 million in payments from foreign sources to the Biden family and their business associates.
• Hunter Biden and Devon Archer Used Rosemont Seneca Entities to Bring in Millions from Oligarchs in Europe and Asia: Using accounts nominally tied to Devon Archer (but using the familiar “Rosemont Seneca” branding), Hunter Biden received incremental payments originating from foreign sources, attempting to hide the source and size of the payments.
• In February 2014, a Russian Oligarch Sent $3.5 Million to a Shell Company Associated with Hunter Biden and Devon Archer: Russian billionaire Yelena Baturina transferred $3.5 million to Rosemont Seneca Thornton, a shell company. Approximately $1 million was transferred to Devon Archer, and the remainder was used to initially fund a new company account, Rosemont Seneca Bohai, which Devon Archer and Hunter Biden used to receive other foreign wires.
• In Spring 2014, a Ukrainian Oligarch Placed Archer and Biden on the Burisma Board of Directors and Agreed to Pay them $1 Million Each per Year: Burisma Holdings’ (Burisma) corporate secretary, Vadym Pozharsky, worked on behalf of the Ukrainian oligarch and owner of Burisma, Mykola Zlochevsky. Hunter Biden was initially hired by Burisma to work as counsel for the company, and Pozharsky and Zlochevsky met with Hunter Biden at a conference in Lake Como in Italy where they decided Hunter Biden would work on the board of directors with Devon Archer. Then-Vice President Joe Biden visited Ukraine soon after their first payments. Payments from Burisma for both Devon Archer and Hunter Biden were wired to Rosemont Seneca Bohai. Payments were transmitted in incremental amounts to Hunter Biden’s different bank accounts.
• In April 2014, a Kazakhstani Oligarch Wired the Exact Price of Biden’s Sportscar to a Bank Account Used by Archer and Biden: In February 2014, Hunter Biden met with Kenes Rakishev at a Washington, D.C. hotel. Rakishev worked closely with the prime minister of Kazakhstan, Karim Massimov. In April, Rakishev, a Kazakhstani oligarch, wired $142,300 to Rosemont Seneca Bohai. The next day, a payment was made from Rosemont Seneca Bohai for a sportscar for Hunter Biden in the amount of $142,300. Archer and Biden then arranged for Burisma executives to visit Kazakhstan in June 2014 to evaluate a three-way deal among Burisma, a Chinese state-owned company, and the government of Kazakhstan.
• Hunter Biden received millions of dollars in payments from Yelena Baturina, Burisma, and Kenes Rakishev. Vice President Biden had dinner with them in the spring of 2014 and 2015 in Washington, D.C.

Comer Releases Third Bank Memo Detailing Payments to the Bidens from Russia, Kazakhstan, and Ukraine - United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

oversight.house.gov

You should note that these facts come from the bank records and aren't someone's fabrications.

I guess you just can't handle facts you don't like.

 

[medi]

Okay, I'm going to do this kind of weird, per my usual style. I have these notes from research I started during the middle of my night here, as I was having trouble getting back to sleep. After I copy the notes I'll explain what I think I remember about this thread.

Rep. Kat Cammack, R-Fla.

The CIA is an independent agency that reports to the Director of National Intelligence. The FBI is part of the Department of Justice.
Aug 15, 2020
Is CIA under DOJ? - Quora
www.quora.com › Is-CIA-under-DOJ
About Featured Snippets

NSD Organization Chart

www.justice.gov

The Law and Policy Office develops and implements Department of Justice policies with regard to intelligence, counterterrorism, and other national security matters. The Office also assists the Assistant Attorney General in fulfilling the function as the Department of Justice's primary liaison to the Director of National Intelligence, and provides legal assistance and advice on matters of national security law.

JUSTICE DEPARTMENT HANDLING OF CASES INVOLVING CLASSIFIED DATA AND CLAIMS OF NATIONAL SECURITY SECOND REPORT BY THE COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS TOGETHER WITH ADDITIONAL VIEWS | CIA FOIA (foia.cia.gov)

www.cia.gov

So I remember asking about that media company and which way it leans politically and after looking at the article that started this thread I realized it is quite right leaning. But no real big deal. Just wanted to know.

I was also wondering about the relationship between the CIA and the DOJ, so I used the Google search engine and you see they had a "Featured Snippet" which I didn't click on as I saw that Director of National Intel as what I guess is the boss for the CIA, BUT when I went to a government page I saw that liaison bit and that struck me as meaning there actually is some influence from the DOJ upon what the CIA does.

Okay, that note about Representative Cammack might be that is the person who implied the connection between the DOJ and the CIA and I presume that might be true, due to that liaison bit on that one government site.

And one of y'all did a post asking about that DOJ and CIA connection, so that was why I was checking that.

Okay, if you are confused, I can understand. I'm not doing a great job at connecting dots here, as I did this bit of research in the very early hours of my morning, maybe 22 hours ago and am not remembering all that didn't go on that note page I quoted above.

So to make it clear just how stupid I am, I do not right now remember why that second government link is in my notes; that CIA site/page.

But one thing I know from my own government work is that when you see the government using that vocabulary "primary liaison" it means there is a serious connection of some sort.

But it's coming up on midnight here and I should really try and get some sleep, so I may have to get back to this later --- many hours later. But I think the answer about the relationship between the CIA and the DOJ is answered up there. And the political leaning of that media company is answered.

Oh yes, and I am remembering that Daily Mail page was a seriously cluttered up page and not so kind to readers and I really don't think I much like the idea of visiting their website again.

One more thing; very sorry to be doing such a confusing post. I usually try and do better work, but don't want to forget at least the beginning of this research. And I did want an answer about that media company, even if it isn't so important.

 

[trixare4kids]

You are laughing off Bank Records which the Committee subpoenaed nicely summarized in a post:



You should note that these facts come from the bank records and aren't someone's fabrications.

I guess you just can't handle facts you don't like.

I guess so.
I wonder how some can actually tell themselves that the bank records don't prove anything. Joe Biden's fingerprints are all over them.

 

[ebradenton]

I guess so.
I wonder how some can actually tell themselves that the bank records don't prove anything. Joe Biden's fingerprints are all over them.

If you have something to say about my comment, tag me.
Your under-the-radar lectures disguised as comments to your cohorts are pathetic.

 

[Manc Skipper]

Is the Daily Mail known for leaning one way or the other with regard to politics? I don't jump on links from here most of the time because I have to use the Firefox browser for here, now, and tracking is a big deal with some browsers; so I will go after that link with another browser later.

BUT I am not familiar with what the editors of that media entity like with regard to politics; left or right? Or neither?

EDIT: By the way, I wouldn't be overly surprised if some folks in the intelligence community were playing funny games like outlined in your post. That's been going on for ages. Nothing new there. And certainly not just our nation.

The Daily Heil thinks Trump is a little bit lefty for them.