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Intel contractors on CIA's payroll colluded with the Biden campaign to discredit Hunter's laptop as 'Russian disinfo,' bombshell report

Even after all of the time the House Committee spent trying to make that connection, they failed outside of their nebulous "the Big Guy" must be Biden. What this has really been about is the sour grapes the "October surprise" didn't land as intended, and mostly because news organizations themselves weren't convinced of the data's integrity.

Lol, the MSM is just as pulpable as those who lied, stating the laptop was Russian disinformation. Even after all this time and eyewitness testimony testifying Joe Biden is "the Big Guy", the left still denies and turns a blind eye to the corruption.....amazing.
 
You believe unfounded conspiracy theories that corrupt people interfered in our elections, while refusing to believe the cold, hard evidence staring you in the face that the guy YOU support is the one who corruptly interfered with the election. People who reject the obvious truth in lieu of unsubstantiated fairy tales have something wrong with them.

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Whataboutism......but Twump!!! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
Until you admit Trump Russian Collusion was a clear act by democrats to interfere in a free election and was manufactured in an attempt to win the election and then used to try to remove a President you can't see the the truth about what's happening. That was the start and it just worsened. Lies about the origins of Covid, lies to force the country into submission under the Biden administration. Spending trillions to purchase voters blind submission. Now we have a President who can't talk, walk, think, read a teleprompter, find his way off a stage, protect our borders or our citizens and certainly not guide the nation. Remember 51 former intelligence officers lied to you as well. Don't believe in the Deep State, what the hell do you think that was?
Paul Manafort went to jail for colluding with Russian agents while on Trump's campaign and lying about it. It was only a "hoax" in MAGA's Dr. Seuss imagination where everything they wish were true actually is.

Your outrage over "election interference" is dishonest and hypocritical.
 
Thats really not the issue here. The issue is that 51 current and former government officials got together to lie to the American public to influence an election. That should bother you but since it hurt trump, youre ok with it.
Indeed...
If this was Donald Trump Jr. - and the CIA did this to protect him - CNN, MSNBC talking heads would be all over this, New York Times would have ran 12 articles about it.
And there would be 14 duplicate threads of outrage on this forum.

But it is a Democrat - so.... who cares.
 
There must be a debate tomorrow.
 
Intel contractors on CIA's payroll colluded< let that sink in the CIA knew the laptop was real because the FBI had it and knew it authentic.
Blinken not only solicited the infamous "51 former INTEL officials" It looks like he overrode the CIA cautions because that came from the candidate .... Can you say ELECTION INTERFERENCE!! *big time*

Morell was the one who organized the letter after a call from now-Secretary of State Antony Blinken. He said he did it to give Biden a 'talking point' in the lead-up to the 2020 election when Trump attacked him for the laptop that was later verified to be his son's.

high-ranking CIA officials were made aware of the letter before its publishing and some raised concerns about the political nature of the letter.


'The signatories’ decision to leverage their former intelligence community titles to promote a narrative about foreign election interference improperly embroiled the [CIA] in domestic politics,' the report states saying it.. 'underscores the potential dangers of a politicized intelligence community.'
liticization of the Department of Justice (DOJ).
Nice source, translated from the original, Russian.
 
Right wingers have discredited the entire laptop saga themselves with nothing to show for it and now they want to deflect blame and put it on someone else lol
 
Lol, the MSM is just as pulpable as those who lied, stating the laptop was Russian disinformation. Even after all this time and eyewitness testimony testifying Joe Biden is "the Big Guy", the left still denies and turns a blind eye to the corruption.....amazing.
What do you mean "the left" ?? Despite the stated aims and ongoing efforts to impeach Biden since before he was even inaugurated, the uber-right-wing-nut Republican Congress hasn't found any corruption on Joe Biden's part in 3-1/2 years. None! ZERO!!

The only people turning a blind eye on corruption are the idiot acolytes on the right, who deny Trump's nearly 40 year history of well documented corruption, including multiple libel convictions for money laundering, tax evasion and FRAUD! Talk about denial! It is the Trump Crime Family that reigns supreme in US politics, and no other.

When compared to Trump, Biden is so clean you could eat sashimi off his ass.
It is truly the denial on the right that is nothing short of breathtaking!
 
When a whataboutism is the best you got, you got squat. Try addressing the topic.
I don't mind pointing out the comical inconsistencies in the outrage by some, especially in this case where it's been covered so much. But you know, if hypocrisy's all you got then....
:)

Now as for the OP itself, sure, the political nature of the letter is a cause for concern in much the same way the re-opening of the investigation into Hillary was a political move. On the whole, the country isn't served by these kind of things because it erodes trust in institutions being able to minimize their ability to resist purely political actions. The concern coming from Trump supporters though, is about as rich as buttercream frosting.
 
Imagine how weak a leader Trump must be to have his own employees colluding with his opponent.
 
Lol, the MSM is just as pulpable as those who lied, stating the laptop was Russian disinformation.
This gets brought up all the time by some on the right, but this was always about the concerns around the hard drive, since there were concerns of tampering. The timing of this was also highly suspect, which is why many news outlets were hesitant to run with it - including Fox News.

Even after all this time and eyewitness testimony testifying Joe Biden is "the Big Guy", the left still denies and turns a blind eye to the corruption.....amazing.
That's because it's what some want to see, but what cannot be demonstrated via evidence, is the actual connection. So please, feel free to show where that direct link actually is. After the investigation's findings, the real argument you seem to be floating is everyone should come to that conclusion in spite of any direct evidence.
 
Thats really not the issue here. The issue is that 51 current and former government officials got together to lie to the American public to influence an election. That should bother you but since it hurt trump, youre ok with it.
Indeed. 100% spot on.


Democrats manipulate the election. This isn't the first time either.
How is this considered as part of 'Saving our Democracy'?
 
There concern was for the information being disseminated from the copy of the hard drive obtained by Rudy. At no time did they make any claim that the laptop itself or the original drive was fake. Of course they knew the laptop was real ...they had it and the original drive! The number of people who don't seem to know the difference between a laptop and a copy of it's hard drive is astounding!

Copy of what's believed to be Hunter Biden's laptop data turned over by repair shop to FBI showed no tampering, analysis says​


Try again.
 
Try again.
No you try again...and again...and again...from your own link.

"Brian Della Rocca, the lawyer for the shop owner, provided to CBS News what he called an "exact copy" of the laptop data provided to federal investigators nearly three years ago. Della Rocca said he considers it "clean" because it predates versions that were widely circulated by Republican operatives to attack then-candidate Joe Biden before the 2020 presidential election. "
"Some other versions of the laptop data circulated later appeared to have had data added after April 2019,
a sign they could have been tampered with, according to reports in other media outlets, including The Washington Post.


Which is what I've always said. There is reason to believe the copy was tampered with. Thank you for your support.
 
No you try again...and again...and again...from your own link.

"Brian Della Rocca, the lawyer for the shop owner, provided to CBS News what he called an "exact copy" of the laptop data provided to federal investigators nearly three years ago. Della Rocca said he considers it "clean" because it predates versions that were widely circulated by Republican operatives to attack then-candidate Joe Biden before the 2020 presidential election. "
"Some other versions of the laptop data circulated later appeared to have had data added after April 2019,
a sign they could have been tampered with, according to reports in other media outlets, including The Washington Post.


Which is what I've always said. There is reason to believe the copy was tampered with. Thank you for your support.
Firstly, if you don't consider the data which appears to have been added (in reality just moved from one folder to another on the hard drive) there's no credibility in throwing ALL of the data out, which you appear to be wanting to do.

"Some other versions of the laptop data circulated later appeared to have had data added after April 2019"
This, the data which should be rightfully discounted, not the entire set of data.

Further from the citation:

"The independent analysis, by two cyber investigators from Minneapolis-based Computer Forensics Services, found no evidence that the user data had been modified, fabricated or tampered with. Nor did it find any new files originating after April 2019, when store records indicate Biden dropped it off for repair."​

Highlight: "found no evidence that the user data had been modified, fabricated or tampered with"

Or is this just too much for you?
 
Firstly, if you don't consider the data which appears to have been added (in reality just moved from one folder to another on the hard drive) there's no credibility in throwing ALL of the data out, which you appear to be wanting to do.
You do have a bad habit of taking my posts out of context or misrepresenting them. I never said such a thing...ever. Only that it appears to have been altered. including BTW the Big Guy file.
 
You do have a bad habit of taking my posts out of context or misrepresenting them.
I'm only reading what you post.

I never said such a thing...ever. Only that it appears to have been altered.
Pretty clear that you were implying this, hence you ignoring the below from the citation:

"The independent analysis, by two cyber investigators from Minneapolis-based Computer Forensics Services, found no evidence that the user data had been modified, fabricated or tampered with. Nor did it find any new files originating after April 2019, when store records indicate Biden dropped it off for repair."​

and only mentioned the other part. So to which conclusion were you trying to 'push' the post reader?

including BTW the Big Guy file.
Ahh, yeah, right. </sarcasm>
Here you go doing the same thing again.

The references to 'The Big Guy' are all over the laptop data, and all over the data which the FBI obtained from Hunter iCloud account with a search warrant.
 
I'm only reading what you post.
No, yet again you are misreading and misstating what I post. I only responded to the part of the article you linked to that was relevant to your posts on this thread. Specifically that there was no tampering when in fact the article says otherwise.

"Brian Della Rocca, the lawyer for the shop owner, provided to CBS News what he called an "exact copy" of the laptop data provided to federal investigators nearly three years ago. Della Rocca said he considers it "clean" because it predates versions that were widely circulated by Republican operatives to attack then-candidate Joe Biden before the 2020 presidential election. "

"Some other versions of the laptop data circulated later appeared to have had data added after April 2019,
a sign they could have been tampered with, according to reports in other media outlets, including The Washington Post.
 
No, yet again you are misreading and misstating what I post. I only responded to the part of the article you linked to that was relevant to your posts on this thread. Specifically that there was no tampering when in fact the article says otherwise.
This seems in direct conflict with this from the citation:

"The independent analysis, by two cyber investigators from Minneapolis-based Computer Forensics Services, found no evidence that the user data had been modified, fabricated or tampered with. Nor did it find any new files originating after April 2019, when store records indicate Biden dropped it off for repair."​

Bolding mine, to highlight what is from the citation and also appears to be in direct conflict with your statement above.
 
This seems in direct conflict with this from the citation:

"The independent analysis, by two cyber investigators from Minneapolis-based Computer Forensics Services, found no evidence that the user data had been modified, fabricated or tampered with. Nor did it find any new files originating after April 2019, when store records indicate Biden dropped it off for repair."​

Bolding mine, to highlight what is from the citation and also appears to be in direct conflict with your statement above.
Try to focus on my words.....I quoted the part from YOUR link that contradicted what YOU said....done!
 
Hunter Biden laptop experts sound off​
here's your time to shine​
Do all statements about "Hunter Biden's laptop/hard drive"

apply to all the copies and all of the things called "Hunter Biden's laptop/hard drive"?



Or is it possible that some statements apply to some of these things and not the others, and vice-versa?
 
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