In 2006, every Democrat in the Senate voted AGAINST raising the debt ceiling

[Wehrwolfen]

It was the month of March and the final vote was 52-to-48, with all Democrats and a handful of Republicans voting "no." The debt limit was increased by $781 billion.
From Sen. Obama’s Floor Speech, March 20, 2006:

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here.” Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better."​

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In 2006, every Democrat in the Senate voted AGAINST raising the debt ceiling (Coralville Courier)

Imagine how Obama has evolved from that day in March 2006, especially now that he has raised the debt limit from $10 Trillion to $17 Trillion in 2013.

 

[bubbabgone]

It was the month of March and the final vote was 52-to-48, with all Democrats and a handful of Republicans voting "no." The debt limit was increased by $781 billion.
From Sen. Obama’s Floor Speech, March 20, 2006:

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here.” Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better."​

Read more:
In 2006, every Democrat in the Senate voted AGAINST raising the debt ceiling (Coralville Courier)

Imagine how Obama has evolved from that day in March 2006, especially now that he has raised the debt limit from $10 Trillion to $17 Trillion in 2013.

But this is sooooooooo different now.
I'm sure someone will come up with a reason.
If it reductively comes down to "Because Barack is President" I trust you won't be surprised.

 

[cpwill]

It was the month of March and the final vote was 52-to-48, with all Democrats and a handful of Republicans voting "no." The debt limit was increased by $781 billion.
From Sen. Obama’s Floor Speech, March 20, 2006:

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here.” Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better."​

Read more:
In 2006, every Democrat in the Senate voted AGAINST raising the debt ceiling (Coralville Courier)

Imagine how Obama has evolved from that day in March 2006, especially now that he has raised the debt limit from $10 Trillion to $17 Trillion in 2013.

So sad to watch a whole party become self-described terrorists and hostage-takers like that

 

[head of joaquin]

OMG, like a bad penny, Wehrwolf is back.

Your OP is false. In 2006 the debt ceiling was raised. The Democrats did not hold the American economy hostage to get at Bush.

NEXT DISCREDITED RIGHTWING MEME!

 

[pbrauer]

But this is sooooooooo different now.
I'm sure someone will come up with a reason.
If it reductively comes down to "Because Barack is President" I trust you won't be surprised.

No, there was a war in Iraq and they wanted starve the beast.

 

[Wehrwolfen]

So sad to watch a whole party become self-described terrorists and hostage-takers like that

Isn't Bernays propaganda wonderful. If enough people repeat a lie someone will begin to believe it.

 

[bubbabgone]

No, there was a war in Iraq and they wanted starve the beast.

But the point was ...
"Imagine how Obama has evolved from that day in March 2006, especially now that he has raised the debt limit from $10 Trillion to $17 Trillion in 2013."
Oama's war and defense spending rose over his 1st term & he proposed another increase in 2013.
Wait ... maybe he would have voted against his own budget ... then again maybe he's just a lying sos?

 

[head of joaquin]

Isn't Bernays propaganda wonderful. If enough people repeat a lie someone will begin to believe it.

Oh the irony.

 

[Wehrwolfen]

No, there was a war in Iraq and they wanted starve the beast.

In 2006, President George W. Bush asked Congress to raise the debt limit by a smaller amount than President Obama is currently requesting. Four top Democrats were outraged with Bush’s request and called the action to be irresponsible. Instead of raising the debt limit, they insisted on spending cuts. Those Democrats were Senators Harry Reid, Dick Durbin, Patty Murray and Chuck Schumer.

Seven years later, the same four Democratic Senators have written President Barack Obama a letter urging him to take ‘lawful steps’ to raise the debt ceiling himself. In the letter, they accuse Republicans of holding the nation’s economy hostage.


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Democrats Who Opposed Raising Debt Limit for Pres. Bush Urging Obama to Raise Debt Limit By

Of course the debt limit was nearly half of what it is today and there were two wars being conducted. One of which Obama has retreated from and one that Obama will soon retreat from.

 

[pbrauer]

In 2006, President George W. Bush asked Congress to raise the debt limit by a smaller amount than President Obama is currently requesting. Four top Democrats were outraged with Bush’s request and called the action to be irresponsible. Instead of raising the debt limit, they insisted on spending cuts. Those Democrats were Senators Harry Reid, Dick Durbin, Patty Murray and Chuck Schumer.

Seven years later, the same four Democratic Senators have written President Barack Obama a letter urging him to take ‘lawful steps’ to raise the debt ceiling himself. In the letter, they accuse Republicans of holding the nation’s economy hostage.


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Democrats Who Opposed Raising Debt Limit for Pres. Bush Urging Obama to Raise Debt Limit By

Of course the debt limit was nearly half of what it is today and there were two wars being conducted. One of which Obama has retreated from and one that Obama will soon retreat from.

The Great Bush Recession has caused a great shortfall in FIT and payroll taxes. That alone has added the debt.

 

[TacticalEvilDan]

It was the month of March and the final vote was 52-to-48, with all Democrats and a handful of Republicans voting "no." The debt limit was increased by $781 billion.
From Sen. Obama’s Floor Speech, March 20, 2006:

Politicians from both parties in both halves of Congress vote against measures that they know are going to pass all the time, so that they can make political hay out of their resistance to what they know either will happen or must happen. There are a number of meaningless procedural votes that happen regularly in the House that members will at times vote against so that they can increase the number of times they vote against their own leadership and thus portray themselves as independent thinkers to the voters back home.

This is meaningless.

 

[Wehrwolfen]

The Great Bush Recession has caused a great shortfall in FIT and payroll taxes. That alone has added the debt.

Like $17 TRILLION dollars?

 

[Wehrwolfen]

Politicians from both parties in both halves of Congress vote against measures that they know are going to pass all the time, so that they can make political hay out of their resistance to what they know either will happen or must happen. There are a number of meaningless procedural votes that happen regularly in the House that members will at times vote against so that they can increase the number of times they vote against their own leadership and thus portray themselves as independent thinkers to the voters back home.

This is meaningless.

Only when it comes to Obama's words coming back to bite him on his rear.

 

[Perotista]

It was the month of March and the final vote was 52-to-48, with all Democrats and a handful of Republicans voting "no." The debt limit was increased by $781 billion.
From Sen. Obama’s Floor Speech, March 20, 2006:

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here.” Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better."​

Read more:
In 2006, every Democrat in the Senate voted AGAINST raising the debt ceiling (Coralville Courier)

Imagine how Obama has evolved from that day in March 2006, especially now that he has raised the debt limit from $10 Trillion to $17 Trillion in 2013.

here are three of the senates votes during the Bush II years.

Year Dem for Dem against Rep for Rep against
2003 3 45 50 1
2004 2 46 50 1
2006 0 44 52 3

It is easy to see whether or not either of the political parties are for or against raising the debt ceiling, all depends whether or not the president is of their party. note that during the Bush II years the republicans were all in favor of raising it.

now during the Obama years, each party has done a 180. You can bet if a Republican wins the White House in 2016, in 2017 it will be the Republicans back in favor of raising the debt ceiling and the Democrats totally against.

 

[Navy Pride]

It was the month of March and the final vote was 52-to-48, with all Democrats and a handful of Republicans voting "no." The debt limit was increased by $781 billion.
From Sen. Obama’s Floor Speech, March 20, 2006:

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here.” Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better."​

Read more:
In 2006, every Democrat in the Senate voted AGAINST raising the debt ceiling (Coralville Courier)

Imagine how Obama has evolved from that day in March 2006, especially now that he has raised the debt limit from $10 Trillion to $17 Trillion in 2013.

That is because Bush was president.

 

[TacticalEvilDan]

Only when it comes to Obama's words coming back to bite him on his rear.

No, not only then. The fellow who taught me about this practice in detail was Justin Amash, a House Republican from Michigan. His Facebook feed has been very educational when it comes to the inner workings of the House.

 

[Navy Pride]

OMG, like a bad penny, Wehrwolf is back.

Your OP is false. In 2006 the debt ceiling was raised. The Democrats did not hold the American economy hostage to get at Bush.

NEXT DISCREDITED RIGHTWING MEME!

Every Dem voted against it. Typical Liberal, ignore the facts and they will go away.

 

[pbrauer]

Only when it comes to Obama's words coming back to bite him on his rear.

2. Obama is a big hypocrite because he voted against a debt-limit increase while Bush was president.

Yes, he did cast such a vote, but no, he’s not a hypocrite, not even a small one. The reason is simple. Democrats made no threats when they cast their votes. They knew they were going to lose and had no real intention of winning.

It was March 16, 2006, when Obama cast the fateful vote. But the Democrats’ votes, Obama’s included, were purely symbolic. The Republicans controlled the Senate at the time, 55-45. The increase in the debt limit, the fourth in George W. Bush’s tenure, passed, 52-48, with three Republicans voting with all the Democrats.

But the Democrats knew they were going to lose. They were in the minority; duh. They did not choose to filibuster, which they could have done and which would have meant the Republicans needed 60 votes. If they’d done so, that would have been hardball, and in that case, Obama would have been a participant in a real threat against American creditworthiness. Even then it wouldn’t have been the same as what the GOP is doing now, unless those 45 Democrats had demanded, oh, that Bush rescind his tax cuts or his Medicare Part D bill or some other signal legislative achievement.

But the Democrats did no such thing. They cast symbolic votes to force Republicans to vote to increase the debt limit. So Obama’s 2006 vote means nothing and bears no resemblance to what’s going on today.

Here Are Three Debt-Ceiling Lies You’ll Hear From the GOP This Week​

 

[head of joaquin]

Like $17 TRILLION dollars?

Yep. That's the amount.

 

[head of joaquin]

Every Dem voted against it. Typical Liberal, ignore the facts and they will go away.

Was the debt ceiling raised? Did the Democrats filibuster?


Focus, focus.

 

[Wehrwolfen]

2. Obama is a big hypocrite because he voted against a debt-limit increase while Bush was president.

Yes, he did cast such a vote, but no, he’s not a hypocrite, not even a small one. The reason is simple. Democrats made no threats when they cast their votes. They knew they were going to lose and had no real intention of winning.

It was March 16, 2006, when Obama cast the fateful vote. But the Democrats’ votes, Obama’s included, were purely symbolic. The Republicans controlled the Senate at the time, 55-45. The increase in the debt limit, the fourth in George W. Bush’s tenure, passed, 52-48, with three Republicans voting with all the Democrats.

But the Democrats knew they were going to lose. They were in the minority; duh. They did not choose to filibuster, which they could have done and which would have meant the Republicans needed 60 votes. If they’d done so, that would have been hardball, and in that case, Obama would have been a participant in a real threat against American creditworthiness. Even then it wouldn’t have been the same as what the GOP is doing now, unless those 45 Democrats had demanded, oh, that Bush rescind his tax cuts or his Medicare Part D bill or some other signal legislative achievement.

But the Democrats did no such thing. They cast symbolic votes to force Republicans to vote to increase the debt limit. So Obama’s 2006 vote means nothing and bears no resemblance to what’s going on today.

Here Are Three Debt-Ceiling Lies You’ll Hear From the GOP This Week​

Actually, Democrats have threatened to hold the debt limit hostage​

By BYRON YORK
JANUARY 14, 2013
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Many Democratic lawmakers, from President Obama on down, have been on the defensive in the debt ceiling fight because in 2006 they themselves voted against raising the debt limit. Obama, Vice President Biden, Democratic Senate leadership Harry Reid, Dick Durbin, Charles Schumer, and Patty Murray — they all voted against it.

Today, Democrats and their partisans in the press argue that while those votes were political posturing, they weren’t really serious because Democrats were the minority party in the Senate in 2006 and could not have blocked a debt ceiling increase, leading to serious financial consequences for the country.

[Excerpt]

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Actually, Democrats have threatened to hold the debt limit hostage | WashingtonExaminer.com

It's all politics and when the Left is called on it their only option is to deny, and deny it some again hoping someone will eventually believe their lies. It's like trust me you won't have to spend a dime more for you Health care insurance. "If you like you Doctor you can keep him", the checks in the mail, and I'll respect you in the morning.

 

[fmw]

They all vote in whatever manner they think will get them re-elected. There isn't any logic or common sense to it. They are political hacks doing what political hacks do. Best to just ignore them and let them do what they do. They have the power, we don't. We have the government we asked for.

 

[CalGun]

Wow back in 2006 the Democrats did this and look what happened in 2008....they won the next election and took both houses of congress.

Sounds like a good game plan for the Republicans. Don't raise the debt ceiling, force obummer to scrap 20% of this heap of government, and operate with a balanced budget for a change.

 

[What if...?]

Wow back in 2006 the Democrats did this and look what happened in 2008....they won the next election and took both houses of congress.

Sounds like a good game plan for the Republicans. Don't raise the debt ceiling, force obummer to scrap 20% of this heap of government, and operate with a balanced budget for a change.

So the dems blocked the debt ceiling raise or just voted against it when their vote meant nothing?

If it was a pointless gesture, its an apples and oranges comparison.

 

[Zyphlin]

OMG, like a bad penny, Wehrwolf is back.

Your OP is false. In 2006 the debt ceiling was raised. The Democrats did not hold the American economy hostage to get at Bush.

NEXT DISCREDITED RIGHTWING MEME!

And this folks is what is called a strawman and is a stirring example of a piss poor attempt at debate.

The OP did not claim that the debt ceiling wasn't raised. That's a strawman you created to bash down in your typical "****ty Debating" meme.

Let's look at the ACTUAL claims the OP made:

The threads title makes the claim that every democrat in the senate voted against raising the debt ceiling: That is true

The first line suggests the final vote was 52 to 48 in favor of raising the debt limit: That is true

The first line suggest the 48 was made up of all democrats and a few republicans: That is true

The first line, CONTRARY TO YOUR DISHONEST STRAWMAN, specifically stated "The Debt Limit was increased": That is true

The second paragraph indicates Obama stated that the fact they were debating the raising of the debt limit that day was a sign of leadership failure: That is true

Know what is NOT true?

Your "Typical dishonesty by HOJ" Meme where you suggest the OP was "false" because the debt ceiling was raised. The OP wasn't just false about that fact, the OP SPECIFICALLY POINTED THAT OUT.

The "Discredited meme" here is you and your standard "SCREAM ABOUT MEMES AND SAY BULL**** TO LOOK LIKE I'M RIGHT" meme.