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Immediate Threat is a Lie!

So what this thug is dead and you losers are emotional about it? What do you want us to do about it


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Luckyone said:
The statement from Trump that the killing of Soleimani was because of an immediate threat has not been verified by any proof to that effect. Trump failed to deliver to the Senate Intelligence Committee any credible evidence that something had to be done immediately to prevent American deaths from occurring.
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If you actually knew what you're talking about, you would know Soleimani was an eminent threat, not immediate. Nobody but you claimed that. You just changed it to make another BS claim.

So in your mind, the one person who has his officers killing Suni's by drilling holes in the heads or hanging them on meat hooks isn't an eminent threat.

The one guy who plans the attacks for hundreds of terrorist killings isn't an eminent threat

The one guy who leads the largest supporter of global terrorism in the world, isn't an eminent threat.

So in the minds of children, this guy just decided to be a good person overnight after decades of murdering and torturing civilians and there isn't any possible reason to think he isn't an eminent threat. This is why the adults are in charge now and not some whiny ass Liberal. But I am sure there are plenty of safe spaces with coloring books and ponies if things get to difficult for Democrats to handle.

Sounds more like you would rather fawn over a murdering terrorist linked to hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians killed than you would admit taking him out was a good decision. This is why Democrats are accused of siding with Iran of America. Now you can join those ranks for providing lies in an effort to start another hate Trump thread.

It has been proven over and over again that Trump is a pathological liar
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What it proves is just another Liberal making up their own version of facts for yet another fake outrage claim.
I don't know about you but my mind always tells me that "preventing" a disaster before it happens is better that "reacting" to a disaster after it happens.
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Yes, we all know you would prefer to suck up to these terrorist and send them billions in cash to play nicey nicey than you would man up and handle the problem. Too bad your apologist isn't in office any more.
 
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snakestretcher said:
And a danger to all NATO nations if we get dragged into yet another US war.
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I agree, the Traitor in Chief is a danger to the US and all of our allies. Yet, he has empowered ISIS and murderous dictators like Mr. Putin. Trump is weak and has serious mental issues and should be removed from office ASAP, in my opinion.
 
Risky Thicket said:
I am asking you for your definition of terrorist. For all I know your definition of terrorist may be anyone who farms eggplants.
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You're baiting, in an attempt to defenf the enemy. Patriot my ass...lol
 
apdst said:
There's tons of evidence that Soleimani was a terrorist.
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Is there tons of evidence for this “imminent threat?” Have you seen it?
 
justabubba said:
had tRump known about the soleimani plan to harm Americans in American embassies and did not take action to prevent such strikes against our nation and its people, resulting in great loss of life and treasure, my speculation is you would have been one of the first to castigate the president for his failure to take appropriate action

as an example, i give you the failure to address urgent intelligence information regarding bin laden's 9/11 plan:

What the CIA knew before 9/11: New details – POLITICO

i was a member of the left who took umbrage at dubya's failure to protect our nation when he had the opportunity to undermine bin laden's efforts

i would be a member of the left who loudly criticized tRump for knowing soleimani's plan and failing to take measures to prevent it

while i doubt there is any citizen who is more disappointed in our president's administration than i, it is wrong to criticize him for taking the appropriate action in this instance
and such criticism makes the left look foolish
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Life is life and things that might have been prevented but were not could have been prevented if decisions had been different. By the same token, the opposite is just as true as there have been many decisions taken (like Bush invading Irag because imaginary weapons of mass destruction (never found) were the reason) and many people died and many costs involved in that "wrong" decision. Deciding what is right and wrong should be done by everyone that the Constitution says should be involved and not used by one person (Trump) to do what he wants and thinks right. Bush thought he was doing the right thing and look at the consequences of that decision.

Our forefathers saw that as a problem and decided that decisions like this had to be discussed and agreed-to with Congress unless there was an imminent threat involved. Nonetheless, under an imminent threat call, that imminent threat has to be shown thereafter so that the decision that was taken was not taken rashly, in haste, of with wrong information such as the Iraq attack in 2003.

What I am saying is that this is the "established" thinking of our republic using the Constitution as the basis for it.

Do you disagree with this?
 
Condor060 said:
If you actually knew what you're talking about, you would know Soleimani was an eminent threat, not immediate. Nobody but you claimed that. You just changed it to make another BS claim.

So in your mind, the one person who has his officers killing Suni's by drilling holes in the heads or hanging them on meat hooks isn't an eminent threat.

The one guy who plans the attacks for hundreds of terrorist killings isn't an eminent threat

The one guy who leads the largest supporter of global terrorism in the world, isn't an eminent threat.

Sounds more like you would rather fawn over a murdering terrorist linked to hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians killed than you would admit taking him out was a good decision. This is why Democrats are accused of siding with Iran of America. Now you can join those ranks for providing lies in an effort to start another hate Trump thread.



What it proves is just another Liberal making up their own version of facts for yet another fake outrage claim.


Yes, we all know you would prefer to suck up to these terrorist and send them billions in cash to play nicey nicey than you would man up and handle the problem. Too bad your apologist isn't in office any more.
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Right wingers are so stupid they literally don’t see a difference between “this was a reckless way to act” and “this terrorist is my bestest friend.”

Good lord. No wonder this country is in the mess it’s in. A third of my fellow countrymen are just ****ing monstrous idiots.
 
TheRepublican said:
So what this thug is dead and you losers are emotional about it? What do you want us to do about it


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Trump’s decision was reckless and placed more Americans in danger. Why do you support putting our troops in greater danger unnecessarily? Do you hate our troops?
 
apdst said:
All your claims of patriotism the past three years just went up in smoke.
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I never claimed patriotism in the past 3 years. The word patriotism once meant something. Trump and his camp followers have perverted the word just as Christian dominionists have done with the word evangelical.
 
Deuce said:
Right wingers are so stupid they literally don’t see a difference between “this was a reckless way to act” and “this terrorist is my bestest friend.”

Good lord. No wonder this country is in the mess it’s in. A third of my fellow countrymen are just ****ing monstrous idiots.
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Its how you handle terrorist. Hiding in your safe spaces while sending pallets of cash didn't work. The adults will handle it now while Liberals will whine and cry over Iran.
 
Deuce said:
Trump’s decision was reckless and placed more Americans in danger. Why do you support putting our troops in greater danger unnecessarily? Do you hate our troops?
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That's a coward's logic: "let's do nothing, because someone might get hurt".

In realty, Trump saved lives. Look how Iran balked on their little missile attack.
 
Condor060 said:
Its how you handle terrorist. Hiding in your safe spaces while sending pallets of cash didn't work. The adults will handle it now while Liberals will whine and cry over Iran.
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Trump’s actions placed more Americans in danger. You support that, and call yourself a patriot.
 
According to the right, Obama drone killed a bunch of people, many of whom were civilians.

To their mind, that makes Obama a terrorist. Who posed an imminent threat. Had they assassinated Obama somehow, what would OUR reaction be?
 
apdst said:
That's a coward's logic: "let's do nothing, because someone might get hurt".

In realty, Trump saved lives. Look how Iran balked on their little missile attack.
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False dichotomy. Typical right winger. So blind that you can’t see any choices other than “what Trump says is good” and “do absolutely nothing.”

Iran’s missile strike could have killed dozens of Americans. You support that, why?
 
TheRepublican said:
So what this thug is dead and you losers are emotional about it? What do you want us to do about it


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Emotion is not what is happening. Defending the tenets of the Constitution is what is happening. You don't agree with the Constitution, then go an change it and give the president the right to do anything he wants and believes necessary without discussing it with anyone. Keep in mind that not all decisions are the right ones and if you allow someone to make decisions that affect your life without discussing it with you (through your representatives in Congress) it means that you accept the wrong decisions as well...................without you ever having a voice in that decision.
 
apdst said:
That's a coward's logic: "let's do nothing, because someone might get hurt".

In realty, Trump saved lives. Look how Iran balked on their little missile attack.
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So you support vigilante justice? Because that's what this was.
 
apdst said:
That's a coward's logic: "let's do nothing, because someone might get hurt".

In realty, Trump saved lives. Look how Iran balked on their little missile attack.
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Coward's logic? Where was the US when millions were being slaughtered by terrorists in Rwanda and the Congo? Nowhere, that's where. And why? Because there were no US 'interests' to defend. Yes, cowardly indeed.
 
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